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No McDonalds Today
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Topic Started: Apr 5 2013, 10:46 PM (1,725 Views)
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negroplease
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Apr 8 2013, 02:53 PM
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No, what would happen is that the standards for these workers will go up.
<br /><br />No? What the heck you mean, no?  <br /><br />Dee, there are many perspectives from which one could look at this. I'm looking from the customers perspective at this time, because its the customer who will decide whether they want to suddenly pay more for a McDonalds meal. Fast food chains have already seen a slowdown simply due to folks having less disposable income. <br /><br />If prices suddenly increase, sales will drop dramatically. When sales go down, what happens? Layoffs. After layoffs, closures. After businesses start to close in an area, you see the death of the neighborhood.
McDonals could cut back on their ads. We already know McDonalds exist, therefore it isn't needed for McDonalds to spend millions if not billions on TV ad space. Now this is true.
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Rick1
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Apr 8 2013, 02:55 PM
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People need to quit feeding their kids this bullshit. When i was a kid we didn't eat this type shit.
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VoiceofReason
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Apr 8 2013, 07:12 PM
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People need to quit feeding their kids this bullshit. When i was a kid we didn't eat this type shit. I survived off of McDonalds through college. I can't eat it now.
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n.W.o.
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Apr 9 2013, 11:28 AM
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No, what would happen is that the standards for these workers will go up.
No? What the heck you mean, no? Dee, there are many perspectives from which one could look at this. I'm looking from the customers perspective at this time, because its the customer who will decide whether they want to suddenly pay more for a McDonalds meal. Fast food chains have already seen a slowdown simply due to folks having less disposable income. If prices suddenly increase, sales will drop dramatically. When sales go down, what happens? Layoffs. After layoffs, closures. After businesses start to close in an area, you see the death of the neighborhood.
McDonals could cut back on their ads. We already know McDonalds exist, therefore it isn't needed for McDonalds to spend millions if not billions on TV ad space. Seriously, all the need to do is a 15-30 second shot showing the M arches on TV. Then at the end you see the words McDonald's. Maybe. They wouldn't even need the last bit. I'm sure they'd save billions instead of going around trying to find just dark enough ethnic folks to eat their fuck McRibs and finally all real chicken nuggets. Or so they say...
Triple Bypass. I'm lugging it.
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Snidely Whiplash
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Apr 10 2013, 12:10 AM
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By immediate, if we're talking within a year, there might be some layoffs in the immediate short term. However I expect increased expanded economic activity because consumer spending will increase. Companies will ultimately benefit from having more people spending money on products. This will lead to more hiring to meet demand.
Also, what happens often is the so called rising tide that lifts all boats can have a positive upward effect on salaries for those making above the minimum wage. I personally experienced this decades ago when the minimum wage increased in MA.
Consumer spending will not increase. Demand will go down. The dollar per transaction will go up, but with reduced transactions, you'll see fast food restaurants closing. Another knee to America's economic groin. That sounds like the argument from conservatives. History however, even recent history counters your assertion. Historically, whenever more money is in the hands of consumers, they spend. Many economist regardless of ideology state this and we saw this when bush gave every most a tax refund of a few hundred dollars. It was also the trick used with the payroll tax holiday. In fact despite right wing concerns the sky would fall when the minimum wage was raised in the mid nineties, the opposite was the case.
I fail to see the logic in assuming there will be reduced transactions. With more money in peoples hands, overall spending will increase across the entire economic sector as it has historically.
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VoiceofReason
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Apr 10 2013, 12:20 AM
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By immediate, if we're talking within a year, there might be some layoffs in the immediate short term. However I expect increased expanded economic activity because consumer spending will increase. Companies will ultimately benefit from having more people spending money on products. This will lead to more hiring to meet demand.
Also, what happens often is the so called rising tide that lifts all boats can have a positive upward effect on salaries for those making above the minimum wage. I personally experienced this decades ago when the minimum wage increased in MA.
Consumer spending will not increase. Demand will go down. The dollar per transaction will go up, but with reduced transactions, you'll see fast food restaurants closing. Another knee to America's economic groin.
That sounds like the argument from conservatives. History however, even recent history counters your assertion. Historically, whenever more money is in the hands of consumers, they spend. Many economist regardless of ideology state this and we saw this when bush gave every most a tax refund of a few hundred dollars. It was also the trick used with the payroll tax holiday. In fact despite right wing concerns the sky would fall when the minimum wage was raised in the mid nineties, the opposite was the case. I fail to see the logic in assuming there will be reduced transactions. With more money in peoples hands, overall spending will increase across the entire economic sector as it has historically. It would be an increase in business expense which is not supported by sales. The business will immediately pass on the increase to customers. Everything goes up. Consumers won't have more disposable income.
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Snidely Whiplash
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Apr 10 2013, 12:39 AM
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By immediate, if we're talking within a year, there might be some layoffs in the immediate short term. However I expect increased expanded economic activity because consumer spending will increase. Companies will ultimately benefit from having more people spending money on products. This will lead to more hiring to meet demand.
Also, what happens often is the so called rising tide that lifts all boats can have a positive upward effect on salaries for those making above the minimum wage. I personally experienced this decades ago when the minimum wage increased in MA.
Consumer spending will not increase. Demand will go down. The dollar per transaction will go up, but with reduced transactions, you'll see fast food restaurants closing. Another knee to America's economic groin.
That sounds like the argument from conservatives. History however, even recent history counters your assertion. Historically, whenever more money is in the hands of consumers, they spend. Many economist regardless of ideology state this and we saw this when bush gave every most a tax refund of a few hundred dollars. It was also the trick used with the payroll tax holiday. In fact despite right wing concerns the sky would fall when the minimum wage was raised in the mid nineties, the opposite was the case. I fail to see the logic in assuming there will be reduced transactions. With more money in peoples hands, overall spending will increase across the entire economic sector as it has historically.
It would be an increase in business expense which is not supported by sales. The business will immediately pass on the increase to customers. Everything goes up. Consumers won't have more disposable income. It would add to the cost of business but it's not a direct one to one relationship. And while I would expect a brief period of no new hires or even slight increase in layoffs, in the long term there we be increased economic activity including real new hires. Again history proves this. When the minimum wage increases, there wasn't a collapse of businesses.
You seem to be advocating what we have now. Essentially no economic growth with an economy skipping along the bottom of an ocean. A tiny bump up one month, a drop the next month. There is no leadership to do what must be done to improve the economy. Instead it's crisis after crisis.
I strongly disagree with your economic assertion which quite frankly is what we have now. People have been tapping in to lines of credit which brought us part of the problems because salaries have not kept pace. Add to that corporations in the aggregate are sitting on billions of dollars. The effects of the two is what we are seeing now.
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Apr 11 2013, 10:57 AM
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Anyone working at McDonalds after six months, and hasn't gotten a raise, needs to be fired! Why? Because if they had any serious interest in their job, and had some "get up and go",more than likely before six months ,they already would have gotten a raise.
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