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Topic Started: Apr 5 2013, 10:46 PM (1,728 Views)
Zechariah
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Apr 6 2013, 10:23 PM
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Apr 6 2013, 10:17 PM
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Apr 6 2013, 10:11 PM
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Apr 6 2013, 10:06 PM
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Apr 6 2013, 09:59 PM
zecharia
Apr 6 2013, 09:07 PM
Truthie
Apr 6 2013, 01:20 PM
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First with high unemployment the employers can afford to offer low wages.
Employers do not lower their wages when unemployment does up.

People, as you stated, lower their standards. Thus, the individual is still making the choice. The individual, by their choice, is locking in the wage. Therefore, the "rosy scenario" your words, not mine, is determined by the choices made by job-hunters.
Still beating the drum for the oppressive slave laborers? :-/
Well, man up, and do something about it!

Oh, maybe we should run to Israel, where we can prosper like this,

"The blacks of Jericho make their living by working the fields in the Jordan Valley. They earn an average of $50 for working a 72-hour week. Should they need food to feed their families, the landowners will permit them to take food from the fields with the understanding the difference will be deducted from their meager wages. Those families fortunate enough to rent land owe as much as half of their crop to the owners at harvest time. The children of these communities attend school in the United Nations Relief Associate (UNRA) system. They usually complete two years of high school and most of them return to the fields to work along side their parents."

Bet you wish Mickey D's hired slaves?
Awwww, poor ol' hag is upset. Do you support those slave wages like Truthie? :D
You should concern yourself with that working 72 hours in a week, for a mere $50, than anyone working at McD's. Your hill is alot higher to climb....

Besides, if we didn't have slaves like you to do the dirty work, who would clean my house?
LOL, go get yourself a drink from your cauldron and shut the fuck up!! :ermm: :D :D
You tell that ole mammie of yours, if she's late one more time, just one more time, I'll hire her mammie to clean my house.

Fuk'n lazy as slaves...

My mojo never loses it's power, does it goony goon? :D
Edited by Zechariah, Apr 7 2013, 05:15 AM.
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*opens door, peeks in, then {YIKES!} quietly closes door back/lightly creeps down hallway*
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Apr 6 2013, 10:36 PM
*opens door, peeks in, then {YIKES!} quietly closes door back/lightly creeps down hallway*
*Right behind ya*
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So it's reasonable to assume truthie and red advocate for the elimination of the minimum wage by logical extension.
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Snidely Whiplash
Apr 7 2013, 12:50 AM
So it's reasonable to assume truthie and red advocate for the elimination of the minimum wage by logical extension.
That would be wrong in my case.

Snidely, thats like me telling you I like vanilla ice cream; then you say it means I hate chocolate. That's flawed logic.

If you ask me if I'm for the elimination of the minimum wage, I would say no. Bad idea in general. Even worse idea in the midst of an economic slow down.
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Apr 7 2013, 01:22 AM
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So it's reasonable to assume truthie and red advocate for the elimination of the minimum wage by logical extension.
That would be wrong in my case.

Snidely, thats like me telling you I like vanilla ice cream; then you say it means I hate chocolate. That's flawed logic.

If you ask me if I'm for the elimination of the minimum wage, I would say no. Bad idea in general. Even worse idea in the midst of an economic slow down.
Let's set aside the current recession because conservatives make a reasonable argument in these times for the elimination of a minimum wage.

Given your statement quoted below, low wage jobs are for those lacking skills. Why the need for some minimum wage then? After all, once one attains the required skills one is out of the low wage group.
If one however does not improve skills, it's still free choice to stay that way. Again no need for a minimum since it is free choice right?


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Whatever you want to call it. I call it free choice.

At one point in my life, I had a minimum wage job. I chose it. No one forced me.

When I wanted more money, I improved my skills. Next job I took paid the going rate for that skill level. And so it goes.

Entry level positions are not intended to be your job for life. It's entry level. Improve your skills and push on to the next.
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Yall don't have to creep out of here, lol. The Goonie Goon's mommy dearest fucked her ass up so bad, she'll never get dick. That is, since daddy dearest departed........ :D :D Hence the profound anger.....needs meds ;)
Edited by Zechariah, Apr 7 2013, 05:16 AM.
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This is just like old times, me and the Goony Goon trading barbs, does it get any better than this? Hahahaha... :D :D
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Snidely Whiplash
Apr 7 2013, 03:20 AM
Truthie
Apr 7 2013, 01:22 AM
Snidely Whiplash
Apr 7 2013, 12:50 AM
So it's reasonable to assume truthie and red advocate for the elimination of the minimum wage by logical extension.
That would be wrong in my case.

Snidely, thats like me telling you I like vanilla ice cream; then you say it means I hate chocolate. That's flawed logic.

If you ask me if I'm for the elimination of the minimum wage, I would say no. Bad idea in general. Even worse idea in the midst of an economic slow down.
Let's set aside the current recession because conservatives make a reasonable argument in these times for the elimination of a minimum wage.

Given your statement quoted below, low wage jobs are for those lacking skills. Why the need for some minimum wage then? After all, once one attains the required skills one is out of the low wage group.
If one however does not improve skills, it's still free choice to stay that way. Again no need for a minimum since it is free choice right?


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Whatever you want to call it. I call it free choice.

At one point in my life, I had a minimum wage job. I chose it. No one forced me.

When I wanted more money, I improved my skills. Next job I took paid the going rate for that skill level. And so it goes.

Entry level positions are not intended to be your job for life. It's entry level. Improve your skills and push on to the next.
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Why the need for some minimum wage then? After all, once one attains the required skills one is out of the low wage group.
If one however does not improve skills, it's still free choice to stay that way. Again no need for a minimum since it is free choice right?


So, although I don't advocate the elimination of the minimum wage, you're asking me to rationalize the argument for a minimum wage?

My belief that the job market determines the value of a job, does not mean that I think the government needs to stand down and not regulate key aspects of our society.

Just like deregulation in the banking/financial industry has proven to stimulate the market in both negative and positive ways, the same would be true for, lets say, the job market.

The elimination of the minimum wage would allow unethical employers to lower the wage to substandard levels. We have already seen the impact of loose labor laws. Our society has already transitioned beyond sweat shops and child labor. I'm not saying its a perfect system, but it's good. Due to greed and other human characteristics, there should be a minimum wage, in my opinion, to help offset potential abuse by unscrupulous employers.

Edited by VoiceofReason, Apr 7 2013, 11:33 AM.
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My question to you, Snidely? What would be the impact of an immediate increase in the minimum wage, to what you and Z seem to consider a living wage, of $15?
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