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A Bleak Future For the Unprepared; Are Blacks prepared for this?
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Snidely Whiplash
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72MiMi
Feb 12 2013, 12:20 PM
Snidely Whiplash
Feb 9 2013, 05:47 PM
72MiMi
Feb 9 2013, 10:55 AM
Truthie
Feb 9 2013, 08:36 AM
Snidely Whiplash
Feb 8 2013, 11:37 PM
^^^ I didn't mention anything about an infrastructure plan.

You may wanna read up on FDR mimi.
She's saying, it sounds like you're not giving President Obama any credit for his plan for America's Infrastructure.
Thank you Truthie, that's exactly what I'm saying....Snideazz likes to fracture the truth if he can, he knew what I was talking about.
Well, it wasn't what I addressed but we can engage in a little execise in critical thinking on this infrastructure issue.

Obama made infrastructure spending part of his 2008 campaign. It would have the 2 fold effect of employing many americans and repair our deteriorating infrastructure.
Obama introduced a infrastructure plan in 2011. The House and Senate eventually reject his plan.

Now comes the critical thinking. He had 2 years of complete democratic control to introduce this and did nothing. In fact when unemployment hit it's highest in 2010 before repub take over in the house, he didn't do it. Instead he waited till repub control of the house to do it.
Anyone paying any attention knowing repubs knew this wasn't gonna pass the house. Obama knew this as well. In fact it didn't even pass the senate which still had dem control but the excuse was they needed 60 votes.
The bottom line is neither obama and the dems, and obviously the repubs wanted this.

If bo wanted this he would have done so by 2010 when official unemployment was just over 10%.
What about the senate you say. Well the 60 vote filibuster rhetoric is just for public consumption for excuse making, especially by dems. They didn't have 60 votes for obamacare but they still passed it with out a single repub vote through reconcilliation.
As a sidenote, recently the senate quietly decided to keep the 60 vote instead of a simple 51 vote rule even as dem Reid publicly opposed the 60 vote filibuster rule. That's because the dems are playing a game. They wanna publicly blame repubs while at the same time support repub policies. The giveaway here is the so-called liberal dems also supported keeping the 60 vote rule like Boxer, Feinstein, and Leahy. Can't remember how Reid voted but he wasn't exactly pushing this.

So to wrap up, the point is obama was never interested in infrastructure or a jobs bill. It was just more of his campaign bullshit. Just like his jobs council that didn't have any formal meetings; comprised of people who offshored jobs; and he dismantled after his re-election. This was all about symbolism and keeping his job like so much of what he markets to those willingly eager to buy it. He knew repubs in the house would never pass it and quite frankly in the senate as well unless he pushed it.

He's just fulla shit. At this point after 4 years if people don't get it, it's not his fault. It's those who are willing to be blinded by a so-called black man in the white house.
You're forgetting about all the other crises and BS that popped up during that same time frame. Arguing w/ "Pertrusion" over bringing back the troops, natural disasters, media disasters, Unemployment disasters, but that's OK I know you don't care for him and that's your prerogative
but at least be honest.

Even you and all of your "infinite wisdom" wouldn't have been able to juggle all of that shit w/o leaving something undone. Interesting how you hone in on the Dem's most of the time and totally leave out the role of the Pubby's.

It's irrelevant on who had control of what, when the outcome is more important....and obviously the Dems had "control" in numbers which didn't matter did it.

Out of all you have said you still neglect to see the whole picture. But that's OK too. You keep thinking as you do and when the Pubby's balk at whatever the next 4 years you'll remember this discussion about WHY.

As you notice I rarely speak in terms of percentages, polls, or what the media spews, I speak from experience and what the reality of issues are.
I spent a long time doing investigations and i know how to question something that's not adding up...... far too many holes in the Pubby's presentation.
Umm, excuse making? As for all the crisis happening, is this somehow different from what other administrations had to face? I mean, bo found plenty of time for date nights, golfing, hanging with hollywood celebs, etc. Who has time for infrastucture and the jobs assoiated with it I guess.
Perhaps bo and the dems can't multitask government issues like prior administrations?
You mentioned unemployment, well the infrastucture plan could have been offered up in 2010 when the dems controlled the house as well. Are you just blowing that off?

I don't go after the repubs because it's pretty obvious what their agenda is. They make it clear frequently. The dems I go after, in particular your boy, at least I did. He and his party talk a populist game especially election time. Once in they govern to the right.

With the last election as I said, I wont fault bo. I may not be the sharpect tool in the shed, but after 4 years I get it. I figure most folks with at least a couple of functioning brain cells should as well. Therefore more of this is what many of y'all wanted and so be it.
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Feb 9 2013, 10:55 AM
Truthie
Feb 9 2013, 08:36 AM
Snidely Whiplash
Feb 8 2013, 11:37 PM
^^^ I didn't mention anything about an infrastructure plan.

You may wanna read up on FDR mimi.
She's saying, it sounds like you're not giving President Obama any credit for his plan for America's Infrastructure.
Thank you Truthie, that's exactly what I'm saying....Snideazz likes to fracture the truth if he can, he knew what I was talking about.
Well, it wasn't what I addressed but we can engage in a little execise in critical thinking on this infrastructure issue.

Obama made infrastructure spending part of his 2008 campaign. It would have the 2 fold effect of employing many americans and repair our deteriorating infrastructure.
Obama introduced a infrastructure plan in 2011. The House and Senate eventually reject his plan.

Now comes the critical thinking. He had 2 years of complete democratic control to introduce this and did nothing. In fact when unemployment hit it's highest in 2010 before repub take over in the house, he didn't do it. Instead he waited till repub control of the house to do it.
Anyone paying any attention knowing repubs knew this wasn't gonna pass the house. Obama knew this as well. In fact it didn't even pass the senate which still had dem control but the excuse was they needed 60 votes.
The bottom line is neither obama and the dems, and obviously the repubs wanted this.

If bo wanted this he would have done so by 2010 when official unemployment was just over 10%.
What about the senate you say. Well the 60 vote filibuster rhetoric is just for public consumption for excuse making, especially by dems. They didn't have 60 votes for obamacare but they still passed it with out a single repub vote through reconcilliation.
As a sidenote, recently the senate quietly decided to keep the 60 vote instead of a simple 51 vote rule even as dem Reid publicly opposed the 60 vote filibuster rule. That's because the dems are playing a game. They wanna publicly blame repubs while at the same time support repub policies. The giveaway here is the so-called liberal dems also supported keeping the 60 vote rule like Boxer, Feinstein, and Leahy. Can't remember how Reid voted but he wasn't exactly pushing this.

So to wrap up, the point is obama was never interested in infrastructure or a jobs bill. It was just more of his campaign bullshit. Just like his jobs council that didn't have any formal meetings; comprised of people who offshored jobs; and he dismantled after his re-election. This was all about symbolism and keeping his job like so much of what he markets to those willingly eager to buy it. He knew repubs in the house would never pass it and quite frankly in the senate as well unless he pushed it.

He's just fulla shit. At this point after 4 years if people don't get it, it's not his fault. It's those who are willing to be blinded by a so-called black man in the white house.
You're forgetting about all the other crises and BS that popped up during that same time frame. Arguing w/ "Pertrusion" over bringing back the troops, natural disasters, media disasters, Unemployment disasters, but that's OK I know you don't care for him and that's your prerogative
but at least be honest.

Even you and all of your "infinite wisdom" wouldn't have been able to juggle all of that shit w/o leaving something undone. Interesting how you hone in on the Dem's most of the time and totally leave out the role of the Pubby's.

It's irrelevant on who had control of what, when the outcome is more important....and obviously the Dems had "control" in numbers which didn't matter did it.

Out of all you have said you still neglect to see the whole picture. But that's OK too. You keep thinking as you do and when the Pubby's balk at whatever the next 4 years you'll remember this discussion about WHY.

As you notice I rarely speak in terms of percentages, polls, or what the media spews, I speak from experience and what the reality of issues are.
I spent a long time doing investigations and i know how to question something that's not adding up...... far too many holes in the Pubby's presentation.
Umm, excuse making? As for all the crisis happening, is this somehow different from what other administrations had to face? I mean, bo found plenty of time for date nights, golfing, hanging with hollywood celebs, etc. Who has time for infrastucture and the jobs assoiated with it I guess.
Perhaps bo and the dems can't multitask government issues like prior administrations?
You mentioned unemployment, well the infrastucture plan could have been offered up in 2010 when the dems controlled the house as well. Are you just blowing that off?

I don't go after the repubs because it's pretty obvious what their agenda is. They make it clear frequently. The dems I go after, in particular your boy, at least I did. He and his party talk a populist game especially election time. Once in they govern to the right.

With the last election as I said, I wont fault bo. I may not be the sharpect tool in the shed, but after 4 years I get it. I figure most folks with at least a couple of functioning brain cells should as well. Therefore more of this is what many of y'all wanted and so be it.
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Umm, excuse making? As for all the crisis happening, is this somehow different from what other administrations had to face? I mean, bo found plenty of time for date nights, golfing,


You know damn well no other President in the past 30 years has had to face what he walked into. You need to quit. The rest of what you said is mere deflection. The man has a family is he supposed to tend to the sheep 24/7-365?

What is the agenda with the Pubby's? I'm missing something I don't see anything clearly....other than filibustering/BS away their time, denying the country the right to breathe. How can anyone who is concerned with the outcome of the crisis ignore the damage they have created during the last 4 yrs and will continue to do so the next 4 yrs if they can get away with it? Just don't hold your breath "Elizabeth" the big ones' on its way.
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Feb 13 2013, 12:34 AM
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Feb 12 2013, 12:20 PM
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Feb 9 2013, 10:55 AM
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Feb 9 2013, 08:36 AM
Snidely Whiplash
Feb 8 2013, 11:37 PM
^^^ I didn't mention anything about an infrastructure plan.

You may wanna read up on FDR mimi.
She's saying, it sounds like you're not giving President Obama any credit for his plan for America's Infrastructure.
Thank you Truthie, that's exactly what I'm saying....Snideazz likes to fracture the truth if he can, he knew what I was talking about.
Well, it wasn't what I addressed but we can engage in a little execise in critical thinking on this infrastructure issue.

Obama made infrastructure spending part of his 2008 campaign. It would have the 2 fold effect of employing many americans and repair our deteriorating infrastructure.
Obama introduced a infrastructure plan in 2011. The House and Senate eventually reject his plan.

Now comes the critical thinking. He had 2 years of complete democratic control to introduce this and did nothing. In fact when unemployment hit it's highest in 2010 before repub take over in the house, he didn't do it. Instead he waited till repub control of the house to do it.
Anyone paying any attention knowing repubs knew this wasn't gonna pass the house. Obama knew this as well. In fact it didn't even pass the senate which still had dem control but the excuse was they needed 60 votes.
The bottom line is neither obama and the dems, and obviously the repubs wanted this.

If bo wanted this he would have done so by 2010 when official unemployment was just over 10%.
What about the senate you say. Well the 60 vote filibuster rhetoric is just for public consumption for excuse making, especially by dems. They didn't have 60 votes for obamacare but they still passed it with out a single repub vote through reconcilliation.
As a sidenote, recently the senate quietly decided to keep the 60 vote instead of a simple 51 vote rule even as dem Reid publicly opposed the 60 vote filibuster rule. That's because the dems are playing a game. They wanna publicly blame repubs while at the same time support repub policies. The giveaway here is the so-called liberal dems also supported keeping the 60 vote rule like Boxer, Feinstein, and Leahy. Can't remember how Reid voted but he wasn't exactly pushing this.

So to wrap up, the point is obama was never interested in infrastructure or a jobs bill. It was just more of his campaign bullshit. Just like his jobs council that didn't have any formal meetings; comprised of people who offshored jobs; and he dismantled after his re-election. This was all about symbolism and keeping his job like so much of what he markets to those willingly eager to buy it. He knew repubs in the house would never pass it and quite frankly in the senate as well unless he pushed it.

He's just fulla shit. At this point after 4 years if people don't get it, it's not his fault. It's those who are willing to be blinded by a so-called black man in the white house.
You're forgetting about all the other crises and BS that popped up during that same time frame. Arguing w/ "Pertrusion" over bringing back the troops, natural disasters, media disasters, Unemployment disasters, but that's OK I know you don't care for him and that's your prerogative
but at least be honest.

Even you and all of your "infinite wisdom" wouldn't have been able to juggle all of that shit w/o leaving something undone. Interesting how you hone in on the Dem's most of the time and totally leave out the role of the Pubby's.

It's irrelevant on who had control of what, when the outcome is more important....and obviously the Dems had "control" in numbers which didn't matter did it.

Out of all you have said you still neglect to see the whole picture. But that's OK too. You keep thinking as you do and when the Pubby's balk at whatever the next 4 years you'll remember this discussion about WHY.

As you notice I rarely speak in terms of percentages, polls, or what the media spews, I speak from experience and what the reality of issues are.
I spent a long time doing investigations and i know how to question something that's not adding up...... far too many holes in the Pubby's presentation.
Umm, excuse making? As for all the crisis happening, is this somehow different from what other administrations had to face? I mean, bo found plenty of time for date nights, golfing, hanging with hollywood celebs, etc. Who has time for infrastucture and the jobs assoiated with it I guess.
Perhaps bo and the dems can't multitask government issues like prior administrations?
You mentioned unemployment, well the infrastucture plan could have been offered up in 2010 when the dems controlled the house as well. Are you just blowing that off?

I don't go after the repubs because it's pretty obvious what their agenda is. They make it clear frequently. The dems I go after, in particular your boy, at least I did. He and his party talk a populist game especially election time. Once in they govern to the right.

With the last election as I said, I wont fault bo. I may not be the sharpect tool in the shed, but after 4 years I get it. I figure most folks with at least a couple of functioning brain cells should as well. Therefore more of this is what many of y'all wanted and so be it.
Quote:
 
Umm, excuse making? As for all the crisis happening, is this somehow different from what other administrations had to face? I mean, bo found plenty of time for date nights, golfing,


You know damn well no other President in the past 30 years has had to face what he walked into. You need to quit. The rest of what you said is mere deflection. The man has a family is he supposed to tend to the sheep 24/7-365?

What is the agenda with the Pubby's? I'm missing something I don't see anything clearly....other than filibustering/BS away their time, denying the country the right to breathe. How can anyone who is concerned with the outcome of the crisis ignore the damage they have created during the last 4 yrs and will continue to do so the next 4 yrs if they can get away with it? Just don't hold your breath "Elizabeth" the big ones' on its way.
I know. It's all the republicans fault or George Bush's fault, and will continue to be until he leaves office. Those repubs...so dastaradly.

Kinda like how they convinced him to brag about a mortgage crisis group in last year's state of the union. It turned out to be just window dressing cause those damn repubs sticking words in his mouth, manipulating what he does, etc.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/obama-mortgage-crisis_n_2666449.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl2%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D269461

Umm, come to think of it, one word describes such a being. It starts with a p an ends with a t.
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