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More gun violence in Chicago-what can be done by Politicians to stop this?
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Topic Started: Jan 28 2013, 11:26 AM (4,122 Views)
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Backbone
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Feb 4 2013, 10:00 PM
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- Mal
- Jan 28 2013, 11:26 AM
WHAT CAN BE DONE BY BLACK FAMILIES, THE CHURCH, POLITICIANS AND THE PRESIDENT TO ADDRESS AND SOLVE THIS ISSUE?
The short answer is nothing
To this I say, UNACCEPTABLE! A strong black community starts in our homes, with our own kids and with our family members. We, as responsible black adults must accentuate the positive behavior in our community, reward those who demonstrates and promote excellence. How do we do this, celebrate good grades in school. Publicize our students that receive awards for excellent in school, they're just as desiring as athletes. Become a mentors to at risk kids, we all can encourage them to do better. Nothing, is just another way of say “I QUIT,” **** Go, Green Bay Packers!!!
I agree. And I just keep wondering what the problem is in Chicago. There are no gun stores in Chicago, they've got the strictest gun laws anywhere. I wonder if its the poverty level. At some point, the politicians of Chicago may consider Martial Law in order to stem the violence. Something I would hate to witness but may be the only viable solutions ease the city’s ills
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White Man
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Feb 4 2013, 10:03 PM
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The blacks have messed up the city of Chicago.
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Feb 4 2013, 10:03 PM
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That's a scary thought. I don't know much about martial law, but it sounds like black young men would be still end up in body bags.
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kennyinbmore
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Feb 4 2013, 11:48 PM
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- Backbone
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Nothing, is just another way of say “I QUIT,”
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Go, Green Bay Packers!!!
Nothing is the reality. There are lots of black kids thriving. Graduating at the top of their HS classes. Going to college, graduating. They don't get the press but they're out there. Those living the thug life can't be helped
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Backbone
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Feb 4 2013, 11:57 PM
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Nothing, is just another way of say “I QUIT,”
****
Go, Green Bay Packers!!!
Nothing is the reality. There are lots of black kids thriving. Graduating at the top of their HS classes. Going to college, graduating. They don't get the press but they're out there. Those living the thug life can't be helped The word can't needs to be replaced with can...
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Feb 5 2013, 01:31 AM
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At the end of it all, What's really stop black people are themselves... EVERYTHING IS AN OBSTACLE..
The problem is what kind of assistance is NEEDED or NOT needed that will help change the plight of blacks.. In my opinion that's the true problem..
WHAT'S REALLY STOPS BLACK PEOPLE ARE THEMSELVES?? WELL I'LL BE DAMNED....... :O I said something like this on another thread and you were saying that black people are not being helped ENOUGH, especially not being helped by Obama. So what it is going to be?
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Feb 5 2013, 10:10 AM
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It ain't just "guns", how about getting kicked and stomped to death? It appears that as usual, the murderers escaped the DEATH PENALTY, I say it's racial discrimination! These punk ass Niggers should have gotten the needle! Now the taxpayers will have to take care of their criminal asses until they die, what a waste of money.
Last two sentenced to life for stomping death of Tillman
 Bobby Tillman
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By Rhonda Cook
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The last two of the four young men who murdered Bobby Tillman were sentenced Monday to spend the rest of their days in prison, but not before the judge lamented the unnecessary loss of five young lives.
Douglas County Judge William McClain was direct but sad when he told Horace Damon Coleman, 21, and Quantez Devonta Mallory, 20, of their fate as a result of their Jan. 25th conviction by a jury for their part in what he called the “savage, brutal” beating death of Tillman.
“I sentence you to life without parole and may God have mercy on your souls,” the judge said, bemoaning their crimes as “a sad reflection on youth today.”
The callousness of the killing of 18-year-old Tillman more than two years ago, drew shock, outrage and expressions of sympathy from across the country. Now all the cases are closed against four young men who were 18 and 19 years old when they committed murder.
Emanuel Boykin, who pleaded guilty last year to throwing the first punch that started the beat down, is serving life with the possibility of parole after 30 years. Tracen Franklin who was convicted of murder after a jury trial last year is serving life without parole.
The fatal beating came after a celebration thrown by the parents of two teenage sisters who made good grades. The parents shut down the party after it became too large and out of control due to social media postings that attracted an uninvited crowd, including the four who killed Tillman, who was invited.
McClain said couldn’t understand why teenagers would stand by and watch as four young men savagely beat and stomped another young man to death only moments after they were enjoying a party together. McClain said he could not understand how the four attackers would wear rosary beads and crosses — “images of God” — while “beating and stomping someone to death.” Or why so many teenagers ran from the Douglasville house where the party was held when they heard the police were coming instead of staying to give the authorities information.
“Words seem inadequate,” the judge said. “It’s very sad we are all here today.”
The fatal fight began after Boykins tried to break up an altercation between two girls, and one of the girls hit him. In retaliation, Boykins announced, he would “pop” the next boy he saw because he didn’t hit girls. Boykins, then 18, spied Tillman leaning against a car a few yards away, ran up the hill and sucker punched him, knocking him to the pavement.
Witnesses, all of them teenagers, testified that Coleman, Franklin and Mallory then joined Boykins in punching, kicking and stomping Tillman, who died after his heart lacerated.
“We can ask these boys a million times ‘why did you do it?’” said Monique Rivard, Tillman’s mother.
She said it was unlikely that was the first time the four had acted out.
“We need to look back,” Rivard said. “I’m sure these boys showed signs (of violence) long before. This generation is spiraling down.”
Criminal justice experts have noted that the impulsiveness of young men, responding to perceived slights, is many times at the root of violence.
For example, a 22-year-old Clark Atlanta University student was charged over the weekend with shooting and wounding a Morehouse College student following a disagreement over a pick-up basketball game. And Jonathan Bunn, 18, was sentenced last summer to life without parole for shooting and killing a Clayton County deputy who had pulled him over to serve an armed robbery warrant.
“I see a lot of young people becoming more desensitized to the consequences of their conduct,” said Douglas County District Attorney David McDade.
Tierra Coleman, Horace Coleman’s sister-in-law, noted the events of that night were tragic for five families.
“My heart is so broken for Bobby Tillman’s mother,” Tierra Coleman said. “I can’t fathom what she has gone through for two years. As a mother I feel her pain…. It’s not fair for Bobby’s mom to never see her son again. Our whole family is very, very disturbed by this whole situation.
“But there’s a life that’s been taken away from us too,” Tierra Coleman said about her husband’s younger brother. “He had his entire life in front of him. He has goals and he has dream and he wants to be successful. But he’s not going anywhere. He’s going to sit behind bars for the rest of his life. My family’s been through hell. It’s been a nightmare. I have a lot of family friends who don’t even talk to me any more.”
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Feb 5 2013, 10:34 AM
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NOTHING WILL BE DONE IN CHICAGO UNTIL THE VICTIMS ARE WHITE FOLKS.
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Mal
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Feb 5 2013, 12:20 PM
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- reddgirl64
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I know a mother, who's young son is doing really good in school, now. With the help of a few, we've gotten him on a level of his peers. I still have, on some morning, to go get her to get involved with her sons activities at school. (she lives a block from the school, walking distance)
Why? Why doesn't she care enough to make his schooling a priority? I say, do you want him to be like his uncles, his dad, heck you? None graduated high school, uncle/dad is in jail, so why she doesn't want to break the cycle, I don't understand.
I'm venting, I had to get her lazy ass this morning.....
Do they go to church though?
Hell no! She gets in from the club to late, so it hard to get up on early mornings. Always got money for cig's and other 'stuff', but never has money for his school trips, costumes for the plays, etc... But, she is a jesus lover, told me to stop 'judging her' ass this morning.
She shouldn't put herself in a position to be judged in the first place.
I was trying to let her know, she's entitled to a life, just not at the expense of your kids well being.... Put some shit on the shelf, until they're older, then party. Heck, I'm still waiting on my time to get drunk, smoke some of the best weed, don't come home, etc... You make a great point. Even if we had good schools, job oppurtunities, safe streets and college chances. We need to have solid, stable, nurturing families where our children thrive and are getting support from parents. Too many of us see having kids as not our first priority and do not provide the best homes for our children. We will never progress unless that is sorted out first.
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Rick1
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Feb 5 2013, 12:25 PM
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Too many people have kids just to prove that they are real men and women, not because they want them and want to take care of them.
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