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More gun violence in Chicago-what can be done by Politicians to stop this?
Topic Started: Jan 28 2013, 11:26 AM (4,124 Views)
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ANd to think, that I thought that "MAL'S" Lord and Savior Obama was going to take care of all of this! Oh well. perhaps he's too busy walking the water, healing the sick, and bringing sight to the blind! :D :D :D B-) B-) B-)

Err, better luck next time "MAL"!
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At the end of it all, What's really stop black people are themselves... EVERYTHING IS AN OBSTACLE..

The problem is what kind of assistance is NEEDED or NOT needed that will help change the plight of blacks.. In my opinion that's the true problem..

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You have to help yourself before anyone else can help you.
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Mr Mann
Feb 4 2013, 02:36 PM
At the end of it all, What's really stop black people are themselves... EVERYTHING IS AN OBSTACLE..

The problem is what kind of assistance is NEEDED or NOT needed that will help change the plight of blacks.. In my opinion that's the true problem..

That is important, we seem to not know what type of assistance we need or what can be done to solve our problems.
Many blacks are in denial and want to lead self destructive lives.
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Mal
Feb 4 2013, 03:15 PM
Mr Mann
Feb 4 2013, 02:36 PM
At the end of it all, What's really stop black people are themselves... EVERYTHING IS AN OBSTACLE..

The problem is what kind of assistance is NEEDED or NOT needed that will help change the plight of blacks.. In my opinion that's the true problem..

That is important, we seem to not know what type of assistance we need or what can be done to solve our problems.
Many blacks are in denial and want to lead self destructive lives.
But my thing is that "for lack of a better example"

If you leave a group of rednecks on their own, and not intervene in terms of making laws and shaping govt for them, they would probably suffer on their own..

That's my thing with this Black crime thing... Are we bringing attention to it to DISCOURAGE or Deflect talk from other things that Fed, even state action can do to help alleviate or do we really want to curb it and possibly find a solution??

As it is, it seems no one wants to or are offering solutions?

My opinion is that criminals are not born, but are made..


What is the thing that be can be done by outsiders to keep a group of people from self destruction??


I for one think WELFARE, SECTION 8, CHILD SUPPORT mentality is what's at the heart of the problem.. as I feel its the "WRONG" kind of help..
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Mal
Feb 4 2013, 10:27 AM
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Feb 4 2013, 10:03 AM
Sadly thru sheer ignorance and an indifference to the word of God sadly found running amuck within predominately Black communities unable to recognize “spiritual warfare” is at play there and elsewhere the devil goes un- rebuked and not casted out of people hearts and minds that need so. What does that say about the supposed church community of Chicago they have no word and they have no authority! These are spirits running around in Chicago finding empty vessels to occupy with guns in their hands. Until the body of Christ come together as one accord and one mind and saturate that town with the word of God killings will continue and St. John 10:9 will sadly continue to be fulfilled by the spirit identified in that scripture as the killer. No word no peace…….
The Black church used to be at the center of political, social and economic progress in the black community. I am not sure what has happened, it seems that too many pastors are interested in making money, having money and turning their churches into businesses. The pastors are too silent about black on black violence, poverty, broken families and our lack of morality.
In the book of Rev. 22:15 the word DOG is referring to “preachers” ministers, apostles, evangelist, bishops, elders, those who claimed they were called to preach but all they preach is prosperity messages and money. Never preach about hell and how to avoid going there never preach about your moral and ethical responsibility as a Christian let alone human being. Never talk about being the husband or wife of one person unless you are a widow or widower you can remarry, never talk about presenting your bodies Holy. So yes the physical church and its leadership share the blame but individually AA have to make decisions about how to live among one another. The elderly are scared can’t blame them simple respect of your elders is a bygone thing. Saying thank you no thank you isn’t even taught in the home. Sao what do we have , a spiritual desert within the AA community sadly that is feeding off a poison well its ego and false pride.
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I for one think WELFARE, SECTION 8, CHILD SUPPORT mentality is what's at the heart of the problem.. as I feel its the "WRONG" kind of help


These programs are given to individuals, whom have children. I personnally would 'adjust' those receiving such programs, in fact, I would DNA test those 'purported' to be the father, and immediately put that individual on child support.

The support would be half of ALL/TOTAL expenses of said child. Rent, food, utilities, clothing, half of the expenses, not a %, but half of all costs associated with child.

Jail or job?

That goes for male or female...
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Feb 4 2013, 04:49 PM
These programs are given to individuals, whom have children. I personnally would 'adjust' those receiving such programs, in fact, I would DNA test those 'purported' to be the father, and immediately put that individual on child support.

The support would be half of ALL/TOTAL expenses of said child. Rent, food, utilities, clothing, half of the expenses, not a %, but half of all costs associated with child.

Jail or job?

That goes for male or female...
Here in Maryland the possible recipient is required to identify the father and file a child support claim. Once the child support is established it goes to the state to offet the welfare benefits. Not that the violence in Chicago has anything to do with that.
Edited by kennyinbmore, Feb 4 2013, 05:22 PM.
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kennyinbmore
Feb 4 2013, 05:22 PM
reddgirl64
Feb 4 2013, 04:49 PM
These programs are given to individuals, whom have children. I personnally would 'adjust' those receiving such programs, in fact, I would DNA test those 'purported' to be the father, and immediately put that individual on child support.

The support would be half of ALL/TOTAL expenses of said child. Rent, food, utilities, clothing, half of the expenses, not a %, but half of all costs associated with child.

Jail or job?

That goes for male or female...
Here in Maryland the possible recipient is required to identify the father and file a child support claim. Once the child support is established it goes to the state to offet the welfare benefits. Not that the violence in Chicago has anything to do with that.
I was simply responding to the comment regarding certain programs. Gun violence in Chicago will only cease when the last thug is standing, and the police move in for the arrest.

They (State of Ill./Chi.) will not put more of their resources, or police force, in danger to attack a problem, that can be addressed by mothers, fathers, cousin, uncles, aunts, etc...
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reddgirl64
Feb 4 2013, 05:45 PM
kennyinbmore
Feb 4 2013, 05:22 PM
reddgirl64
Feb 4 2013, 04:49 PM
These programs are given to individuals, whom have children. I personnally would 'adjust' those receiving such programs, in fact, I would DNA test those 'purported' to be the father, and immediately put that individual on child support.

The support would be half of ALL/TOTAL expenses of said child. Rent, food, utilities, clothing, half of the expenses, not a %, but half of all costs associated with child.

Jail or job?

That goes for male or female...
Here in Maryland the possible recipient is required to identify the father and file a child support claim. Once the child support is established it goes to the state to offet the welfare benefits. Not that the violence in Chicago has anything to do with that.
I was simply responding to the comment regarding certain programs. Gun violence in Chicago will only cease when the last thug is standing, and the police move in for the arrest.

They (State of Ill./Chi.) will not put more of their resources, or police force, in danger to attack a problem, that can be addressed by mothers, fathers, cousin, uncles, aunts, etc...
I agree. Which is why I said earlier you can't expect help from someone else until you help yourself
Edited by kennyinbmore, Feb 4 2013, 06:11 PM.
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