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Obama gives Israel 70 billion
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Topic Started: Dec 6 2012, 09:17 PM (1,900 Views)
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Dec 10 2012, 12:19 PM
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FYI, I'm a taxpaying, law obeying AMERICAN. I'm merely asking what advantage does Israel holds over other countries? Oil, exports,minerals, precious metals, what?This country claims there's supposed to be a separation between religion and state. Is the US viewing Israel as a religious state based on biblical beliefs, or not. If not, tell me why.
Israel represents far more than that. One must wonder why a piece of realestate no larger than the state of New Jersey is written about, talked about, fought over more than any nation on earth. It's far too much to explain in this venue, but if I were to sum it up, the existence of this world system depends on the continued existence of Israel in it's current form. When Israel in that form ceases to exist, so will the present world system. But this is what Christians believe, but how does that apply to Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism,Santeria and Sikhism? These people 's religions has nothing to do with Judaism, or Christianity.Why should they believe that Judaism and Israel?
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Dec 10 2012, 12:29 PM
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FYI, I'm a taxpaying, law obeying AMERICAN. I'm merely asking what advantage does Israel holds over other countries? Oil, exports,minerals, precious metals, what?This country claims there's supposed to be a separation between religion and state. Is the US viewing Israel as a religious state based on biblical beliefs, or not. If not, tell me why.
Israel represents far more than that. One must wonder why a piece of realestate no larger than the state of New Jersey is written about, talked about, fought over more than any nation on earth. It's far too much to explain in this venue, but if I were to sum it up, the existence of this world system depends on the continued existence of Israel in it's current form. When Israel in that form ceases to exist, so will the present world system. But this is what Christians believe, but how does that apply to Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism,Santeria and Sikhism? These people 's religions has nothing to do with Judaism, or Christianity.Why should they believe that Judaism and Israel? Christians believe that? I'm not aware of what christians believe, I'm only speaking from truths that I'm certain no christian knows. What I am saying has nothing to do with religion, so your buddists, christians and the rest don't count.
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Dec 10 2012, 12:46 PM
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FYI, I'm a taxpaying, law obeying AMERICAN. I'm merely asking what advantage does Israel holds over other countries? Oil, exports,minerals, precious metals, what?This country claims there's supposed to be a separation between religion and state. Is the US viewing Israel as a religious state based on biblical beliefs, or not. If not, tell me why.
Israel represents far more than that. One must wonder why a piece of realestate no larger than the state of New Jersey is written about, talked about, fought over more than any nation on earth. It's far too much to explain in this venue, but if I were to sum it up, the existence of this world system depends on the continued existence of Israel in it's current form. When Israel in that form ceases to exist, so will the present world system. But this is what Christians believe, but how does that apply to Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism,Santeria and Sikhism? These people 's religions has nothing to do with Judaism, or Christianity.Why should they believe that Judaism and Israel?
Christians believe that? I'm not aware of what christians believe, I'm only speaking from truths that I'm certain no christian knows. What I am saying has nothing to do with religion, so your buddists, christians and the rest don't count. Sp where is it written in STONE, where it says that the US MUST be Israel's greatest benefactor? Can Israel stand alone, or does the US has to pour in an infusion of money forever? What Holy Book says that has to happen?
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Zechariah
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Dec 10 2012, 12:50 PM
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FYI, I'm a taxpaying, law obeying AMERICAN. I'm merely asking what advantage does Israel holds over other countries? Oil, exports,minerals, precious metals, what?This country claims there's supposed to be a separation between religion and state. Is the US viewing Israel as a religious state based on biblical beliefs, or not. If not, tell me why.
Israel represents far more than that. One must wonder why a piece of realestate no larger than the state of New Jersey is written about, talked about, fought over more than any nation on earth. It's far too much to explain in this venue, but if I were to sum it up, the existence of this world system depends on the continued existence of Israel in it's current form. When Israel in that form ceases to exist, so will the present world system. But this is what Christians believe, but how does that apply to Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism,Santeria and Sikhism? These people 's religions has nothing to do with Judaism, or Christianity.Why should they believe that Judaism and Israel?
Christians believe that? I'm not aware of what christians believe, I'm only speaking from truths that I'm certain no christian knows. What I am saying has nothing to do with religion, so your buddists, christians and the rest don't count. Sp where is it written in STONE, where it says that the US MUST be Israel's greatest benefactor? Can Israel stand alone, or does the US has to pour in an infusion of money forever? What Holy Book says that has to happen? This has nothing to do with religion, as I said. America has no choice in the matter, they can't choose to not do their duty. Don't fool yourself into thinking that america has that power.
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Dec 10 2012, 01:13 PM
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I already know why the US spends money on Israel.
GUILT!
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005267
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On May 28, the day after the St. Louis docked in Havana, Lawrence Berenson, an attorney representing the US-based Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC), arrived in Cuba to negotiate on behalf of the St. Louis passengers. A former president of the Cuban-American Chamber of Commerce, Berenson had had extensive business experience in Cuba. He met with President Bru, but failed to persuade him to admit the passengers into Cuba. On June 2, Bru ordered the ship out of Cuban waters. Nevertheless, the negotiations continued, as the St. Louis sailed slowly toward Miami. Bru offered to admit the passengers if the JDC posted a $453,500 bond ($500 per passenger). Berenson made a counteroffer, but Bru rejected the proposal and broke off negotiations.
Sailing so close to Florida that they could see the lights of Miami, some passengers on the St. Louis cabled President Franklin D. Roosevelt asking for refuge. Roosevelt never responded. The State Department and the White House had decided not to take extraordinary measures to permit the refugees to enter the United States. A State Department telegram sent to a passenger stated that the passengers must "await their turns on the waiting list and qualify for and obtain immigration visas before they may be admissible into the United States." US diplomats in Havana intervened once more with the Cuban government to admit the passengers on a "humanitarian" basis, but without success.
Quotas established in the US Immigration and Nationality Act of 1924 strictly limited the number of immigrants who could be admitted to the United States each year. In 1939, the annual combined German-Austrian immigration quota was 27,370 and was quickly filled. In fact, there was a waiting list of at least several years. US officials could only have granted visas to the St. Louis passengers by denying them to the thousands of German Jews placed further up on the waiting list. Public opinion in the United States, although ostensibly sympathetic to the plight of refugees and critical of Hitler's policies, continued to favor immigration restrictions. The Great Depression had left millions of people in the United States unemployed and fearful of competition for the scarce few jobs available. It also fueled antisemitism, xenophobia, nativism, and isolationism. A Fortune Magazine poll at the time indicated that 83 percent of Americans opposed relaxing restrictions on immigration. President Roosevelt could have issued an executive order to admit the St. Louis refugees, but this general hostility to immigrants, the gains of isolationist Republicans in the Congressional elections of 1938, and Roosevelt's consideration of running for an unprecedented third term as president were among the political considerations that militated against taking this extraordinary step in an unpopular cause.
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Dec 10 2012, 01:15 PM
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Are you serious? Please...
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Dec 10 2012, 01:17 PM
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America doesn't know what guilt is. Do they have guilt for slavery, native americans, Hiroshima & Nagasaki or any of the places of slaughter...please.
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Dec 10 2012, 02:36 PM
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All Rethugs .....right? Too funny!
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Dec 10 2012, 04:19 PM
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?.. know why the US spends money on Israel.
http://rense.com/general79/tril.htm
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Dec 10 2012, 10:07 PM
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America doesn't know what guilt is. Do they have guilt for slavery, native americans, Hiroshima & Nagasaki or any of the places of slaughter...please. No more than the camel humping A-rabs that invaded Spain! Hey, how about Genghis Kahn invading China and killing Chinese people, or maybe Shaka Zulu? Don't get me started on wars and killings, hypocrite!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes
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MASS KILLING
R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, states that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most likely 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. "This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture."[36] According to Rummel, in China alone, during 1937–45, approximately 3.9 million Chinese were killed, mostly civilians, as a direct result of the Japanese operations and 10.2 million in the course of the war.[37] The most infamous incident during this period was the Nanking Massacre of 1937–38, when, according to the findings of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, the Japanese Army massacred as many as 300,000 civilians and prisoners of war, although the accepted figure is somewhere in the hundreds of thousands.[38] In Southeast Asia, the Manila massacre resulted in the death of 100,000 civilians in the Philippines. It is estimated that at least one out of every 20 Filipinos died at the hand of the Japanese during the occupation.[39][40] In the Sook Ching massacre, Lee Kuan Yew, the ex-Prime Minister of Singapore, said during an interview with National Geographic that there were between 50,000 and 90,000 casualties[41] while according to Major General Kawamura Saburo, there were 5,000 casualties in total.[42] There were other massacres of civilians e.g. the Kalagong massacre.
It just didn't happen with JEWS sonny!
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