| Jews go off, on Obama...lol...you never read of Blacks getting this bodacious | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 11 2012, 08:09 AM (389 Views) | |
| The SOLE Controller | Nov 11 2012, 08:09 AM Post #1 |
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Democrats who followed or attended their national convention in Charlotte this week generally insist it was energizing, interesting, and reaffirmed for many the argument against Mitt Romney and for Barack Obama. But the platform debacle – which saw the party dropping mentions of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, the only instance of the word “God” and several pro-Israel provisions from its platform, only to have to hurriedly reinstate God and Jerusalem – won’t disappear so quickly from memory if Jewish Democratic leaders have their way. Some have started to call for blood. The platform was handled “by children,” one Jewish leader in Charlotte who asked to remain anonymous told The Times of Israel. In the kind of scathing critique that reporters heard from multiple sources this week, the longtime Jewish activist said, “The people responsible for the platform did such a terrible job working on the wording because they did not conduct an inclusive process with members of the [pro-Israel] community. That’s what led to this problem, and those people should be held responsible.” What’s more, some pro-Israel activists are far from satisfied even with the corrected language in the platform. Said longtime Democrat and prominent law professor Alan Dershowitz: “I would like to see the president make statements over the course of the coming weeks which re-affirm what was said in the 2008 platform, not only with regards to Jerusalem, but in regard to the borders, the refugees and with regard to Hamas,” he said. Off-the-record, other Jewish Democratic insiders echo the objections. The 2008 platform had demanded “the isolation of Hamas until that organization renounces terrorism and accepts other requirements of the peace process,” insisted that “any settlement of the so-called ‘refugees’ question in a final settlement make a future Palestinian state, not Israel, the destination for Palestinian ‘refugees,’” and noted “that it’s not realistic to expect [the] outcome of negotiations to be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949.” The platform produced ahead of the convention “wasn’t anti-Israel,” said the Jewish leader who spoke to The Times of Israel anonymously. “It wasn’t bad. It’s just that [the drafters] are children on this, and there was no adult supervision. They don’t understand that there has to be continuity of language. They threw out the previous platform and wrote a new one from scratch.” That inexperience led the Democrats to the embarrassing primetime television spectacle of attempting to forcibly restore language about God and Jerusalem to the platform on Wednesday through a voice vote on the convention floor – a measure that was loudly booed by some delegates in the half-empty hall. The Jewish activist’s description of the original platform rewrite process was confirmed by a Democratic official, David Harris of the National Jewish Democratic Council, who said Wednesday, “The party platform is not held up from the previous election. A fresh document was created.” Harris did not himself criticize party officials for the foul-up, instead preferring to add to the praise other Jewish Democrats had for Obama’s decision to reopen the platform, even at the cost of negative media coverage. “I’d say it’s a pretty significant moment for any political party to reopen a political document like this at the request of the President of the United States,” said Harris. The Jewish leader agreed. The platform crafters erred by “trying to align [the platform’s language] with the White House’s policy. The White House’s policy is no different than it was under Bush. But policy is different from a platform. They’re not the same thing.” “The president’s decision to reinsert some of the language,” said the leader, “was a rebuke to those who did this.” The word “rebuke” figured heavily in Democrats’ version of events by Thursday. Dershowitz suggested to Algemeiner on Thursday that the boos in the convention hall on Wednesday came from “rogue elements” of the far left. He said the vote on the forced reinsertion of language on God and Jerusalem made him “frankly very happy… because I think it alerted everybody to the fact that this group within the Democratic Party poses a tremendous danger to the bipartisan support for Israel that has characterized American politics since 1948.” “We caught them, and the president rebuked them basically,” he added. The Jewish leader who spoke with the Times of Israel, a man intimately familiar with Democratic Party institutions, dismissed the boos from the convention floor, saying they were “mostly about God” rather than Jerusalem. “The people in the room that early in the day were from the far left of the party. Some of them didn’t understand the process, because it wasn’t previewed for them. So they didn’t like the process, and they were reacting to inserting God” into the platform, he said. Pressed, however, as to whether C-SPAN’s footage of Arab American activists booing indicated that some convention delegates may, in fact, have been angered by wording over Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, the Democratic leader conceded, “There were some anti-Israel activists in the crowd who made a lot of noise.” As they pick up the pieces of the PR debacle, Jewish Democrats are pointing fingers at two names especially: former Florida Congressman Robert Wexler and Georgetown University professor and defense analyst Colin Kahl. Wexler could not be reached for comment. Kahl did not return emails requesting comment. The platform changes don’t reflect “the views of Democrats,” said the Jewish leader, or even of a minority as Dershowitz believes. Rather, it was Wexler’s and Kahl’s bungled misunderstanding of what a platform is all about that led to the primetime hiccup and “hurt the president.” Many Jewish Democrats were still unhappy about the reinserted language on Thursday. “They still did not reinsert [language saying] Israel is our most reliable ally in the Middle East. And they did not reinsert [language saying Palestinian] refugees will return to a Palestinian state. Those are fundamental parts of the special relationship” between the US and Israel, said the leader. Dershowitz, too, was “not satisfied…..and I communicated this to the White House.” Democrats are now looking to move past the incident, which is why it is difficult to get any Democratic insider to speak on the matter on record. But the public quiet hides behind-the-scenes agitation. Democrats have witnessed, spectacularly, their clumsiness on Israel, even from such veteran and intelligent operators as Wexler and Kahl, insiders acknowledge. They will likely be much more careful on the issue in the 61 days that remain till November 6. |
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| The SOLE Controller | Nov 11 2012, 04:16 PM Post #2 |
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US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton berated Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu for the powerful presentation of his case for confronting Iran with red lines instead of hitherto failed diplomacy and sanctions in his speech to the UN General Assembly Thursday, Sept. 27. This is reported by debkafile’s Washington sources. Neither released a statement from their conversation of an hour and a quarter one-on-one shortly after the speech. Our sources report that Clinton made it clear that President Barack Obama would not tolerate the Israeli prime minister having a say in his Iran agenda. He remained committed to diplomacy regardless of Netanyahu’s warning that it was getting “late, very late” to stop a nuclear Iran. Clinton accordingly announced a decision by the world powers to go into another round of nuclear negotiations with Iran, although after the breakdown of diplomacy in July, they expected an improved Iranian offer. EU foreign executive Catherine Ashton was directed to get in touch with Iran’s nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalilee for another attempt to set up talks, although when the two officials met in Istanbul on Sept. 18, they made no headway. Debkafile: US steps early Friday Sept. 28 put the clock back five days to Monday when Obama dismissed Netanyahu’s advocacy of agreed red lines for warning Iran off its nuclear bomb program as “background noises” which he systematically blocked. This reversal came after White House and Israeli officials had begun discussing moving the critical timeline for that program to late spring, early summer 2013, instead of this year. Debkafile reported earlier: Addressing the UN General Assembly Thursday, Sept. 27 Israel Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu graphically depicted Israel’s red line for Iran. He held up a simple diagram showing that Iran had covered 70 percent of the distance to a nuclear bomb and must be stopped before it reached the critical stage next spring or early summer of 2013. He stressed that it is getting late, very late to stop a nuclear Iran. The best way, he said, is to lay down a clear red line on the most vulnerable element of its nuclear program: uranium enrichment. “I believe that if faced with a clear and credible red line, Iran will back down and may even disband its program,” he said. Red lines prevent wars, don’t start them and in fact deterred Iran from blocking the Strait of Hormuz. Israel and the US are in discussion over this issue, said Netanyahu. “I’m sure we can forge a way forward together." He went on to accuse Iran of spreading terrorist networks in two dozen countries and turning Lebanon and Gaza into terror strongholds. Hoping a nuclear-armed Iran will bring stability is like hoping a nuclear al Qaeda will bring world peace, the prime minister remarked. Debkafile quotes some Washington sources as disclosing that the White House and Israel emissaries have come to an understanding that Israel will hold back from attacking Iran’s nuclear sites before the US election in November, while a special team set up by President Barack Obama completes a new paper setting out the end game for Iran. He put the team to work after concluding that negotiations with Iran had exhausted their usefulness. Gary Samore, top presidential adviser on nuclear proliferation, leads the team. Netanyahu’s citing of late spring, early summer 2013, as the critical point on Iran’s path to a nuclear bomb appears to confirm that he has agreed to delay military action against Iran following negotiations with the White House on the next agreed steps. Our sources report that the prime minister was represented in those talks by Defense Minister Ehud Barak and National Security Adviser Yakov Amidror. According to another view, which is current in Washington’s intelligence community, Israel was finally persuaded to delay by fresh intelligence presented by the Obama administration which showed that Israeli estimates were overly pessimistic in judging the timeline for Iran’s nuclear facilities to be buried in “immunity zones.” That timeline extended to spring 2013, leaving Israel five to six months up to April-May for ordering a military operation against those sites. However, we have learned that Israeli intelligence circles dispute their American colleagues’ estimate as “interesting” but inaccurate. Netanyahu, in his speech, confirmed that Washington and Jerusalem were constantly exchanging views and evaluations on the state of Iran’s nuclear program. He also made the point that while intelligence services, American and Israeli alike, had remarkable aptitudes, their estimates on Iran were not foolproof. He was referrng to the Pentagon claim that when Iran was ready to build a bomb, American intelligence would know about it in good time. |
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| Whozthatgurl | Nov 11 2012, 05:12 PM Post #3 |
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FUCK! ISRAEL........ Netenyahu's nightmare is just beginning. The hell with Romney, Bebe's ass is on his way out. |
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| The SOLE Controller | Nov 11 2012, 05:29 PM Post #4 |
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Come on now, WhozThat...we both know that the reelection = Obama is going to start off, in 2013, resuming his obeying Israel's every command...including sending them another $5-billion next year. |
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| Whozthatgurl | Nov 11 2012, 05:34 PM Post #5 |
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That's not just Obama's policy. Giving Israel money will be an ongoing policy long after Obama. It was the policy long before Obama. |
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| The SOLE Controller | Nov 11 2012, 05:46 PM Post #6 |
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Yey but my point is, the fakeness, in how none of the other Presidents put on the fake persona like Obama does/pretending he's supposedly got an attitude with Netanyahu...yet...steadily obeying him, steadily positioning USA armaments around Iran, steadily sending Israel that fat $5-billion tit to suck on every year. My problem, is his unprecedented fakeness about the whole thing...he loves sucking Israel's scrotum, and needs to quit pretending like he's forced to. And lol too @ how majority of the elite AMERICAN businessmen, over in Israel, voted absentee for Romney...as they understand, like me, that although Obama is the better President and more intelligent man, Romney is better for America------in the eyes of wealthy racist Whites who hold the key to our nation's progress. |
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| Whozthatgurl | Nov 11 2012, 07:46 PM Post #7 |
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You mean better for THEM. Not America. Boo!! you do know this is what the American people said with their votes on 11-6. 50% of the people or should we say the majority agreed with Obama. Those businessmen are the 1% that Romney supports. Edited by Whozthatgurl, Nov 11 2012, 07:46 PM.
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| The SOLE Controller | Nov 11 2012, 08:50 PM Post #8 |
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Yep. Same 1% who have spit in the face of Obama, for 4 years, as they hold America hostage because we have a Black President. |
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| The SOLE Controller | Nov 14 2012, 02:48 PM Post #9 |
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I'm going to sue Obama ...for plagiarism LOLOL |
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