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America's Agenda of Evil; A factual analysis
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truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 03:58 AM
psalongo
Nov 5 2012, 03:55 AM
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Nov 5 2012, 03:29 AM
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Nov 5 2012, 03:12 AM
truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 02:52 AM
I believe that we Americans are so reliant on the government for everything that our hands are psychologically tied. "We" expect the government to solve the jobs crisis. "We" expect the government to do the right thing with regard to our monetary policies.

"We" forget our true power is the power of our vote. We have not been properly utilizing it. We reward lawmakers who bow to lobbyists, and our self-interests, instead of thinking about what's good for the country.
Well my take is song long as the expectation is not unreasonable, it's justified.

You know we're taught that in our representative democracy, it's for and by the people.

In a real sense, yeah we can employ ourselves but the government can do this as well.
As for the monetary system, in a personal way, yes we have to be mindful of how me we can spend based on how much we have. In a broader sense though, only the government can print dollars and throughout history various monetary systems have collapsed leaving the authorities to do things like debt forgiveness. In Jewish history I believe they refer to this as jubillee. This all becomes necessary due greed, corruption, and imperfections in any system.
Right, but its not our government that prints money. We borrow from the Fed. The Fed doesn't even bother to base it off of our expected GDP. The government(s) is being held hostage by the banking industry - it's that simple.

Exactly, it's all due to greed and corruption in the system.
It is government money hun. The goverment prints the money or marks up accounts. The governments protects the currency with the secret service.
At any time to government can rewrite the game but system serves the powers that be very well.
It's money backed by the government. It's not government money.
There's a difference. If it were government money we could simply not charge ourselves interest, and shave points off the deficit.
It's government money. period.
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truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 02:52 AM
I believe that we Americans are so reliant on the government for everything that our hands are psychologically tied. "We" expect the government to solve the jobs crisis. "We" expect the government to do the right thing with regard to our monetary policies.

"We" forget our true power is the power of our vote. We have not been properly utilizing it. We reward lawmakers who bow to lobbyists, and our self-interests, instead of thinking about what's good for the country.
Very True.
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Lemme go at this another way. The goverment can't collect more than it has issued. This repayment argument is really not of the level of consequence being placed on it. If the goverment decided to have 0 debt in dollars tomorrow, it would have to tax and fee every one with dollars to get it's currency back. All the debt and deficit is, is balance sheet accounting. The government issued x dollars via the fed and taxed and received only x -n dollars back. N being the dollars kept in savings accounts.
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This is laughable. Do you really believe that? All money issued goes somewhere to someone at some point. Are you really saying you believe that it would be...only a matter of balance sheet accounting? Once the money is created - digitally or minted - it is a means to barter. It's no longer simply numbers on a sheet of paper. It is placed in the money supply, backed by confidence only. If the government tried to simply take their accountants' pencil and change some numbers around, there would be hell to pay. Other countries were already upset due to the QE but they were convinced to do the same thing, so now they've stopped complaining. This can not continue indefinitely. It is debasing the value of the currency. There is no need to discuss bonds, it comes down basically to this: The more money put into the money supply, the less buying power each dollar has. And the US government has no method to offset that.

Countries have discussed no longer using the dollar as the world currency because they have lost confidence in our economy. Actually, that's past tense. They are coming up with creative ways to stabilize the dollars they already have. They are converting dollars into tangible assets to offset the instability caused by QE. For instance, buying US companies, and buying gold.
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psalongo
Nov 5 2012, 04:24 AM
truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 03:58 AM
psalongo
Nov 5 2012, 03:55 AM
truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 03:29 AM
psalongo
Nov 5 2012, 03:12 AM
truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 02:52 AM
I believe that we Americans are so reliant on the government for everything that our hands are psychologically tied. "We" expect the government to solve the jobs crisis. "We" expect the government to do the right thing with regard to our monetary policies.

"We" forget our true power is the power of our vote. We have not been properly utilizing it. We reward lawmakers who bow to lobbyists, and our self-interests, instead of thinking about what's good for the country.
Well my take is song long as the expectation is not unreasonable, it's justified.

You know we're taught that in our representative democracy, it's for and by the people.

In a real sense, yeah we can employ ourselves but the government can do this as well.
As for the monetary system, in a personal way, yes we have to be mindful of how me we can spend based on how much we have. In a broader sense though, only the government can print dollars and throughout history various monetary systems have collapsed leaving the authorities to do things like debt forgiveness. In Jewish history I believe they refer to this as jubillee. This all becomes necessary due greed, corruption, and imperfections in any system.
Right, but its not our government that prints money. We borrow from the Fed. The Fed doesn't even bother to base it off of our expected GDP. The government(s) is being held hostage by the banking industry - it's that simple.

Exactly, it's all due to greed and corruption in the system.
It is government money hun. The goverment prints the money or marks up accounts. The governments protects the currency with the secret service.
At any time to government can rewrite the game but system serves the powers that be very well.
It's money backed by the government. It's not government money.
There's a difference. If it were government money we could simply not charge ourselves interest, and shave points off the deficit.
It's government money. period.
I guess that settles that! Lol!
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No, it's not GOVT money...the Rothschilds & Rockefellers took care of settling that:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489

http://rense.com/general79/tril.htm
Edited by The SOLE Controller, Nov 5 2012, 09:31 AM.
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LOL, the KFC clown has something to say. ;)
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Yep. Something which towers over whatever a fake-Israeli posted, as usual.
Edited by The SOLE Controller, Nov 5 2012, 09:36 AM.
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Luke 6-28
Nov 5 2012, 09:30 AM
No, it's not GOVT money...the Rothschilds & Rockefellers took care of settling that:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489

http://rense.com/general79/tril.htm
Correct. :D
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Nov 5 2012, 09:20 AM
psalongo
Nov 5 2012, 04:24 AM
truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 03:58 AM
psalongo
Nov 5 2012, 03:55 AM
truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 03:29 AM
psalongo
Nov 5 2012, 03:12 AM
truthisrespect
Nov 5 2012, 02:52 AM
I believe that we Americans are so reliant on the government for everything that our hands are psychologically tied. "We" expect the government to solve the jobs crisis. "We" expect the government to do the right thing with regard to our monetary policies.

"We" forget our true power is the power of our vote. We have not been properly utilizing it. We reward lawmakers who bow to lobbyists, and our self-interests, instead of thinking about what's good for the country.
Well my take is song long as the expectation is not unreasonable, it's justified.

You know we're taught that in our representative democracy, it's for and by the people.

In a real sense, yeah we can employ ourselves but the government can do this as well.
As for the monetary system, in a personal way, yes we have to be mindful of how me we can spend based on how much we have. In a broader sense though, only the government can print dollars and throughout history various monetary systems have collapsed leaving the authorities to do things like debt forgiveness. In Jewish history I believe they refer to this as jubillee. This all becomes necessary due greed, corruption, and imperfections in any system.
Right, but its not our government that prints money. We borrow from the Fed. The Fed doesn't even bother to base it off of our expected GDP. The government(s) is being held hostage by the banking industry - it's that simple.

Exactly, it's all due to greed and corruption in the system.
It is government money hun. The goverment prints the money or marks up accounts. The governments protects the currency with the secret service.
At any time to government can rewrite the game but system serves the powers that be very well.
It's money backed by the government. It's not government money.
There's a difference. If it were government money we could simply not charge ourselves interest, and shave points off the deficit.
It's government money. period.
I guess that settles that! Lol!
:D :D
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Luke 6-28
Nov 5 2012, 09:30 AM
No, it's not GOVT money...the Rothschilds & Rockefellers took care of settling that:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489

http://rense.com/general79/tril.htm
Tin foil hat time :D :D

Actually Luke, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'm not that far from checking out of this game, this fool's paradise we are framed in. The Rothchilds, Rockerfellers, Bilderberg's, etc may be something more true than we give credit.
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