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Update On Passports
Topic Started: Oct 20 2012, 12:43 AM (1,149 Views)
Zechariah
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Zechariah
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Oct 20 2012, 10:16 PM
Things that make you go hmm...

I recently wanted to go out and get a Federal passport, but looks like I can't waste any more time. When does this new form take effect?
Check out that vid, I think the info is in it. I would advise you to move on that asap. They used to tell you how countries like Cuba, Soviet Union didn't allow their citizens to leave the country. Well, that's what happening in america now.
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Brodanny

This is REALLY hard to believe. Most people couldn't come up with the answers to many of those questions. I recently renewed mine, so I'm good for a little while.
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Brodanny
Oct 21 2012, 12:43 AM
This is REALLY hard to believe. Most people couldn't come up with the answers to many of those questions. I recently renewed mine, so I'm good for a little while.
Same here. B-)
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"and this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause".

I've referenced this line from star wars on several occassions here when speaking of the obama supporters, obamabots.
This passport issue follows a pattern with the obama administration, and in this case the state department headed by hillary, not republicans.
A pattern that includes; launching fbi raids on antiwar activist, continues indefinite detetntion and has expanded it to include americans, killing americans without due process, extended the patriot act, pushed for dna testing of those arrested of crimes, blocked more freedom of information request than bush, prosecuted more whistleblowers than all other presidents combined, and on and on. Even now using free speech rights to cover up the violence in libya.

The political forces normally aligned and fighting against many of these are busy backing the fierce advocate, the constitutional scholar. Not to worry I s'ppose. Like the irs enforced mandated healthcare, it's good for us. As he would say, stop whining.
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psalongo
Oct 21 2012, 02:50 AM
"and this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause".

I've referenced this line from star wars on several occassions here when speaking of the obama supporters, obamabots.
This passport issue follows a pattern with the obama administration, and in this case the state department headed by hillary, not republicans.
A pattern that includes; launching fbi raids on antiwar activist, continues indefinite detetntion and has expanded it to include americans, killing americans without due process, extended the patriot act, pushed for dna testing of those arrested of crimes, blocked more freedom of information request than bush, prosecuted more whistleblowers than all other presidents combined, and on and on. Even now using free speech rights to cover up the violence in libya.

The political forces normally aligned and fighting against many of these are busy backing the fierce advocate, the constitutional scholar. Not to worry I s'ppose. Like the irs enforced mandated healthcare, it's good for us. As he would say, stop whining.
Yeah, but


You make it sound as though it started with "the Obama administration" which isn't true. Granted, I haven't seen a reversal of the trend, but lets not ignore the fact that the pattern started long ago, Longo (Heehee for "long ago Longo" ;) ).

But my gosh, how do we repeal the NDAA? Only Ron Paul to my knowledge even mentioned it as a concern.
Edited by VoiceofReason, Oct 21 2012, 03:10 AM.
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VoiceofReason

And I'm not saying you're referring exclusively to the NDAA, I'm just mentioning it because its a comprehensive order.
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If this were McCain, do you think the Congressional black caucus, jesse and al, and all the rest would be raising hell? Not saying obama started some of this but the silence is deafening from the vocal crowd!
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psalongo
Oct 21 2012, 03:16 AM
If this were McCain, do you think the Congressional black caucus, jesse and al, and all the rest would be raising hell? Not saying obama started some of this but the silence is deafening from the vocal crowd!
It's some other reason, P.
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and that would be?
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VoiceofReason

My wheels are turning. No, really, I have no clue. We hardly had any outcry whatsoever from any of our politicians - it's like they're all in cahoots. And anyone not going along was made to look like a nut. :ermm:
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