| Update On Passports | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 20 2012, 12:43 AM (1,145 Views) | |
| Zechariah | Oct 20 2012, 12:43 AM Post #1 |
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Why You Need a Passport Now!: By Robert Wenzel October 19, 2012 "Information Clearing House" - At a future point, it may be impossible to get one. PapersPlease.org reports on what the State Department is planning for future passport applicants: The new U.S. passport application forms are back, worse than ever. Ignoring massive public opposition, and despite having recently admitted that it is already using the “proposed” forms illegally without approval, the State Department is trying again to get approval for a pair of impossible-to-complete new passport application forms that would, in effect, allow the State Department to deny you a passport simply by choosing to send you either or both of the new “long forms”. Early last year, the State Department proposed a new “Biographical Questionnaire” for passport applicants, which would have required anyone selected to receive the new long-form DS-5513 to answer bizarre and intrusive personal trivia questions about everything from whether you were circumcised (and if so, with what accompanying religious rituals) to the dates of all of your mother’s pre- and post-natal medical appointments, your parents’ addresses one year before you were born, every address at which you have ever resided, and your lifetime employment history including the names and phone numbers of each of your supervisors at every job you have ever held. Most people would be unable to complete the proposed new form no matter how much time and money they invested in research. Requiring someone to complete Form DS-5513 would amount to de facto denial of their application for a passport — which, as we told the State Department, appeared to be the point of the form. The State Department’s notice of the proposal in the Federal Register didn’t include the form itself. After we published the proposed Form DS-5513, the story went viral and more than 3,000 public comments objecting to the proposal were filed with the State Department in the final 24 hours of the comment period. After that fiasco, the State Department went dark for several months, and claimed that they would “revise” the form. But they didn’t give up, and apparently they didn’t listen to (or didn’t care) what they had been told by members of the public in our comments. The State Department is now seeking approval for a (slightly)revised Form DS-5513 as well as a new Form DS-5520, also for passport applicants, containing many of the same questions. The State Department no longer wants you to tell the passport examiner about the circumstances of your circumcision, but does still want to know the dates and locations of all of your mother’s pre- and post-natal medical appointments, how long she was hospitalized for your birth, and a complete list of everyone who was in the room when you were born. The revised forms no longer ask for all the addresses at which you have lived, but only for those addresses you are least likely to know: all the places you lived from birth until age 18. And so on, as you can see for yourself on the proposed Form DS-5513 and Form DS-5520. Read more here. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32803.htm |
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| VoiceofReason | Oct 20 2012, 12:41 PM Post #2 |
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I thought this was a prank, Z. I found this at The Federal Register: Key words: "The information may also be used...in furtherance of the Secretary's responsibility for the protection of U.S. nationals abroad." Abstract of proposed collection: The primary purpose for soliciting this information is to establish citizenship, identity, and eligibility for a U.S. Passport Book or Passport Card. The information may also be used in connection with issuing other travel documents or evidence of citizenship, and in furtherance of the Secretary's responsibility for the protection of U.S. nationals abroad. https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2011/02/24/2011-4154/60-day-notice-of-proposed-information-collection-ds-5513-biographical-questionnaire-for-us-passport I found this interesting as well (it's a PDF; I'd prefer to post the image but I don't know how to do that): http://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ds5513-proposed.pdf Edited by VoiceofReason, Oct 20 2012, 12:50 PM.
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| Zechariah | Oct 20 2012, 09:48 PM Post #3 |
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LOL, I don't know how to post images or vids. But check this out, very interesting. http://video.foxnews.com/v/4663644 Edited by Zechariah, Oct 20 2012, 09:48 PM.
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| VoiceofReason | Oct 20 2012, 09:49 PM Post #4 |
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Z, I suspect you and I may be the only peeps who care bout this..... |
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| Zechariah | Oct 20 2012, 09:50 PM Post #5 |
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One thing people need to know, and I've said it before, is that they aren't worried about who enters the country, they're worried about who leaves. |
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| VoiceofReason | Oct 20 2012, 09:57 PM Post #6 |
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Z, maybe. But I know that they are gathering as much info on each individual as possible, using every method available. Whew....dual-citizenship might have to become an option. Scary. |
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| Zechariah | Oct 20 2012, 10:04 PM Post #7 |
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This is one I posted in the past. http://letustalk.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/americans-moving-to-european-countries-because-of-economic-slump-here/ |
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| VoiceofReason | Oct 20 2012, 10:09 PM Post #8 |
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Oooooh. I'll add that to my reading list. I was thinking Jamaica - early retirement.
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| Zechariah | Oct 20 2012, 10:14 PM Post #9 |
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Whatever your destination, it's smart to have options.
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| JA-MAAL | Oct 20 2012, 10:16 PM Post #10 |
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Things that make you go hmm... I recently wanted to go out and get a Federal passport, but looks like I can't waste any more time. When does this new form take effect? |
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