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Why politicians never mention the poor
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Topic Started: Aug 29 2012, 09:05 PM (1,313 Views)
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Aug 30 2012, 08:22 PM
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- Sari
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- Aug 30 2012, 02:44 PM
SHOW ME A COUNTRY WHERE THERE ARE NO POOR!
Luxembourg, Europe...... Well, very few if they exist, at all. True story. http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/ewco/studies/tn0910026s/lu0910029q.htm
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Working poor in Europe – Luxembourg
Disclaimer: This information is made available as a service to the public but has not been edited or approved by the European Foundation for the Improvement of Living and Working Conditions. The content is the responsibility of the authors.
The at risk of poverty rate for workers is 9% in Luxembourg. The working poor rate is particularly high among blue-collar workers: 22% of them are in this situation, compared with 3% of white-collar workers, 12% of self-employed people and less than 1% of civil servants. Some 70% of the working poor worked full time over the previous 12 months. Some 12% of all workers are paid about the minimum wage; this is especially the case in the 20–24 age group. Definitions and aims of study
The ‘working poor’ are a section of the population that is difficult to define not only due to a lack of specific data but also because the concept combines two levels of analysis: the working status of individuals and the wages that they earn from employment (individual level), and the extent to which they have a poverty-level of income within the household context (collective level).
The aim of the comparative analytical report is fourfold:
to obtain an insight into the extent of in-work poverty in different European countries and the characteristics of those affected;
to examine policies in place to tackle the problem of people in work on low levels of income and any assessments which have been carried out into the effectiveness of such policies;
to consider the views of social partners towards the working poor;
to investigate the effect of the current economic recession on the scale of in-work poverty.
For the purpose of the study, the working poor are defined in the same way as the indicator used by the European Commission to assess and monitor in-work poverty. Therefore, the working poor are those who are employed and whose disposable income puts them at risk of poverty. The expressions ‘working poor’ and ‘in-work poverty’ are thus used interchangeably.
‘Employed’ is defined here as being in work for over half of the year and ‘risk of poverty’ is defined as having an income below 60% of the national median. Income is measured in relation to the household in which a person lives and covers the income of all household members, which is shared equally among them after being adjusted for household size and composition. Accordingly, if persons are at risk of poverty, this may not be simply because they have low wages but because their wages are insufficient to maintain the income of the household in which they live at a certain level. Equally, a person can earn a very low wage but not be at risk of poverty because the income of other household members is sufficient to raise the overall household income above the poverty threshold. The study covers people on low wages, or low earnings in the case of self-employed persons. Low wages, defined in an analogous way as low income – that is, below 60% of the median earnings of those in full-time employment – potentially put individuals at risk of poverty. The risk is likely to increase in the current economic crisis as companies introduce various measures to try to cut wage costs while keeping people in employment by reducing their working hours, giving them extended leave or simply cutting wages.
The characteristics of the people concerned are also important, particularly their age, with young people and, in some cases, older workers being more likely to be employed in low-paid jobs. Women are more likely than men to be employed in low-paid jobs, even allowing for the relatively large number of women working part time. However, the statistics show that, if they are in work, women are on average across the European Union less likely than men to live in households with a poverty-level of income. Nonetheless, they are more likely than men to live in circumstances which put them at particular risk of poverty, such as being a lone parent in many countries. In addition, migrants are particularly vulnerable to being among the working poor, since they tend to combine various adverse characteristics, such as working in low-skilled jobs with low rates of pay and living in single-earner households.
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Aug 30 2012, 08:26 PM
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- Aug 30 2012, 06:25 PM
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- Aug 30 2012, 02:44 PM
SHOW ME A COUNTRY WHERE THERE ARE NO POOR!
Saudia Arabia. Yeah, where the Sheiks gets 90% of the oil money, and gives the rest to it's citizens.In my opinion, that's an artificial economy, because if the money wasn't given to them, they would be back in the desert heading sheep, goats, and camels, like before oil was discovered there!
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G. A. W.
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Aug 30 2012, 09:29 PM
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- Sari
- Aug 30 2012, 06:03 PM
- UTB
- Aug 30 2012, 02:44 PM
SHOW ME A COUNTRY WHERE THERE ARE NO POOR!
Luxembourg, Europe...... Well, very few if they exist, at all. True story. http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/ewco/studies/tn0910026s/lu0910029q.htm- Quote:
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Working poor in Europe – Luxembourg
Disclaimer: This information is made available as a service to the public but has not been edited or approved by the European Foundation for the Improvement of Living and Working Conditions. The content is the responsibility of the authors.
The at risk of poverty rate for workers is 9% in Luxembourg. The working poor rate is particularly high among blue-collar workers: 22% of them are in this situation, compared with 3% of white-collar workers, 12% of self-employed people and less than 1% of civil servants. Some 70% of the working poor worked full time over the previous 12 months. Some 12% of all workers are paid about the minimum wage; this is especially the case in the 20–24 age group. Definitions and aims of study
The ‘working poor’ are a section of the population that is difficult to define not only due to a lack of specific data but also because the concept combines two levels of analysis: the working status of individuals and the wages that they earn from employment (individual level), and the extent to which they have a poverty-level of income within the household context (collective level).
The aim of the comparative analytical report is fourfold:
to obtain an insight into the extent of in-work poverty in different European countries and the characteristics of those affected;
to examine policies in place to tackle the problem of people in work on low levels of income and any assessments which have been carried out into the effectiveness of such policies;
to consider the views of social partners towards the working poor;
to investigate the effect of the current economic recession on the scale of in-work poverty.
For the purpose of the study, the working poor are defined in the same way as the indicator used by the European Commission to assess and monitor in-work poverty. Therefore, the working poor are those who are employed and whose disposable income puts them at risk of poverty. The expressions ‘working poor’ and ‘in-work poverty’ are thus used interchangeably.
‘Employed’ is defined here as being in work for over half of the year and ‘risk of poverty’ is defined as having an income below 60% of the national median. Income is measured in relation to the household in which a person lives and covers the income of all household members, which is shared equally among them after being adjusted for household size and composition. Accordingly, if persons are at risk of poverty, this may not be simply because they have low wages but because their wages are insufficient to maintain the income of the household in which they live at a certain level. Equally, a person can earn a very low wage but not be at risk of poverty because the income of other household members is sufficient to raise the overall household income above the poverty threshold. The study covers people on low wages, or low earnings in the case of self-employed persons. Low wages, defined in an analogous way as low income – that is, below 60% of the median earnings of those in full-time employment – potentially put individuals at risk of poverty. The risk is likely to increase in the current economic crisis as companies introduce various measures to try to cut wage costs while keeping people in employment by reducing their working hours, giving them extended leave or simply cutting wages.
The characteristics of the people concerned are also important, particularly their age, with young people and, in some cases, older workers being more likely to be employed in low-paid jobs. Women are more likely than men to be employed in low-paid jobs, even allowing for the relatively large number of women working part time. However, the statistics show that, if they are in work, women are on average across the European Union less likely than men to live in households with a poverty-level of income. Nonetheless, they are more likely than men to live in circumstances which put them at particular risk of poverty, such as being a lone parent in many countries. In addition, migrants are particularly vulnerable to being among the working poor, since they tend to combine various adverse characteristics, such as working in low-skilled jobs with low rates of pay and living in single-earner households.
Next? UTB! Thank you for the link and info!
Grazie!

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Aug 30 2012, 09:37 PM
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Personally, I don't give a fuck about poor people who refuse to get a job or go to school even if someone is helping them getting on their feet.
There is no excuse to be on welfare for years and never worked a real job.
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Aug 30 2012, 09:41 PM
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Personally, I don't give a fuck about poor people who refuse to get a job or go to school even if someone is helping them getting on their feet.
There is no excuse to be on welfare for years and never worked a real job. I agree.
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Aug 30 2012, 09:44 PM
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Africa's poor are helped by the country of Luxembourg............
I'm really proud of this effort......
http://www.one.org/data/en/countries/eu/luxembourg/
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Luxembourg’s 2010 target for Africa (based on 50% of the increase to the global interim target)[2] was €137.8 million, which it also exceeded. It met 130.3% of its target increases committed for 2010. Between 2004 and 2011, Luxembourg increased its development assistance to Africa by 17.9% (€20.1 million); its development assistance to the sub-Saharan region increased by 19% (€19.7 million), while its overall development assistance increased by 19.1% (€47.7 million).[3]
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Aug 30 2012, 09:51 PM
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Personally, I don't give a fuck about poor people who refuse to get a job or go to school even if someone is helping them getting on their feet.
There is no excuse to be on welfare for years and never worked a real job.
I agree. In most cases, poor people stay poor because they refuse to better themselves.
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Aug 30 2012, 10:03 PM
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I am also fed up with the chronic poor extorting money from the tax payers.
They use fear tactics in order to stay on welfare. People assume that if the poor don't get welfare, then they are going to commit crimes in order to survive.
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