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The Secret Meeting That Changed Rap Music And Destroyed A Generation
Topic Started: Apr 26 2012, 10:57 AM (435 Views)
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Hello,
After more than 20 years, I’ve finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I’ve simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren’t ready for.


Between the late 80′s and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more est@blished company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly est@blished myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I’ve ever seen.


The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn’t seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn’t find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.

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WOW ! Now this topic is a real eye opener ! Greed is Hell !
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Negrodamus
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I luved the music during the 90's.
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Last Black man
Apr 26 2012, 10:57 AM
Hello,
After more than 20 years, I’ve finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I’ve simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren’t ready for.


Between the late 80′s and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more est@blished company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly est@blished myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I’ve ever seen.


The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn’t seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn’t find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1849585/pg1
Good read, although.....many of us were already aware of the plan listed here.

As It actually went into 6th-gear, the morning after a certain intelligent & political/conscious rapper did outdebate the eventual President, Of The United States, while he campaigned during early/mid-1992


After that debate, all Blacks knew that conscious & educational rap which uplifted Black people, was over. We knew that the Music Industry's powers-at-be were then screaming, "hell naw Black Americans won't use (+) music to do, an Uprising, nope not on our watch!!"

and the next thing you know 'The Chronic' became the flagship or the #1 schematic for hip-hop music...to escort conscious rap onto commercial-music's burial grounds.
Edited by The SOLE Controller, Apr 26 2012, 02:03 PM.
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Apr 26 2012, 02:00 PM
Last Black man
Apr 26 2012, 10:57 AM
Hello,
After more than 20 years, I’ve finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I’ve simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren’t ready for.


Between the late 80′s and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more est@blished company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly est@blished myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I’ve ever seen.


The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn’t seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn’t find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1849585/pg1
Good read, although.....many of us were already aware of the plan listed here.

As It actually went into 6th-gear, the morning after a certain intelligent & political/conscious rapper did outdebate the eventual President, Of The United States, while he campaigned during early/mid-1992


After that debate, all Blacks knew that conscious & educational rap which uplifted Black people, was over. We knew that the Music Industry's powers-at-be were then screaming, "hell naw Black Americans won't use (+) music to do, an Uprising, nope not on our watch!!"

and the next thing you know 'The Chronic' became the flagship or the #1 schematic for hip-hop music...to escort conscious rap onto commercial-music's burial grounds.
I'm pretty sure it was all money motivated and had nothing to with an uprising. Hip Hop was simply a niche genre back in the the 80's and exploded to the mainstream with new change of direction in the 90's. That is also when white folks started to buy the fuck out our shit.
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Hip Hop was simply a niche genre back in the the 80's and exploded to the mainstream with new change of direction in the 90's. That is also when white folks started to buy the fuck out our shit.

This right here. White kids got into rap(especially gangsta rap) at that time because it was a way you could rebel, much like when white kids started getting into blues, rock, and metal. Once a genre becomes mainstream though you might as well kiss the essence of what made it so great good bye.

Interesting read though....
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Apr 26 2012, 02:23 PM
I'm pretty sure it was all money motivated and had nothing to with an uprising. Hip Hop was simply a niche genre back in the the 80's and exploded to the mainstream with new change of direction in the 90's. That is also when white folks started to buy the fuck out our shit.
This mission had nothing to do, with money.

As those artists ---left alone!--- would sell just as well as gangsta rap, which it outsold during that time. Let's not forget, gangsta rap was already out and popular by 1988. Those conscious rap acts just offered something that they didn't. And non-Blacks couldn't stand the idea of rap-music being used to motivate younger Blacks, to atone themselves. That's what conscious rap does, yep, thats what rap does when it's uplifting Black people.

Which is why it is not peculiar nor coincidence, that it is the only music-form or subgenre which every record label steers clear of since '93.



Plus There was a lawsuit in 2004 vs. The Big4 Record Labels in US District Court...which proves that you would be dead wrong here, in your assessment.

Music, is a universal language....and those who control it, in America, understand that and they understand that "a populous" will latch onto any music which is crammed down their throats and played over and over again.

This isn't me talking, it's music industry experts. It's people who know that music has a specific effect, on the human mind....no matter who you are



Upon realizing the strides Blacks were about to make, under Clinton's fairness, vs. any previous post-JFK President...something had to be done, and this is what it was. Black males are always the most dangerous threat to White America, so this plan was inevitable. Yep. It was anticipated from the day "Rapper's Delight" was first heard over the airwaves in 1979.
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Apr 26 2012, 03:16 PM
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Apr 26 2012, 02:23 PM
I'm pretty sure it was all money motivated and had nothing to with an uprising. Hip Hop was simply a niche genre back in the the 80's and exploded to the mainstream with new change of direction in the 90's. That is also when white folks started to buy the fuck out our shit.
This mission had nothing to do, with money.

As those artists ---left alone!--- would sell just as well as gangsta rap, which it outsold during that time. Let's not forget, gangsta rap was already out and popular by 1988. Those conscious rap acts just offered something that they didn't. And non-Blacks couldn't stand the idea of rap-music being used to motivate younger Blacks, to atone themselves. That's what conscious rap does, yep, thats what rap does when it's uplifting Black people.

Which is why it is not peculiar nor coincidence, that it is the only music-form or subgenre which every record label steers clear of since '93.



Plus There was a lawsuit in 2004 vs. The Big4 Record Labels in US District Court...which proves that you would be dead wrong here, in your assessment.

Music, is a universal language....and those who control it, in America, understand that and they understand that "a populous" will latch onto any music which is crammed down their throats and played over and over again.

This isn't me talking, it's music industry experts. It's people who know that music has a specific effect, on the human mind....no matter who you are



Upon realizing the strides Blacks were about to make, under Clinton's fairness, vs. any previous post-JFK President...something had to be done, and this is what it was. Black males are always the most dangerous thread to White America, so this plan was inevitable, from the day Rapper Delight was heard over the airwaves in 1979.
Give me sum chart numbers to back up your claim.

You sound extremely foolish in thinking that these white executive's were trying to kill a movement. The number goal for any businessman is to make as much money as possible. Everything else is secondary.
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Old news. For those of us who already know the story it's nothing new. And for those who don't they probably won't give a shit to read what you wrote anyway.
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Apr 26 2012, 03:30 PM
21dec2012
Apr 26 2012, 03:16 PM
Sub-Negro
Apr 26 2012, 02:23 PM
I'm pretty sure it was all money motivated and had nothing to with an uprising. Hip Hop was simply a niche genre back in the the 80's and exploded to the mainstream with new change of direction in the 90's. That is also when white folks started to buy the fuck out our shit.
This mission had nothing to do, with money.

As those artists ---left alone!--- would sell just as well as gangsta rap, which it outsold during that time. Let's not forget, gangsta rap was already out and popular by 1988. Those conscious rap acts just offered something that they didn't. And non-Blacks couldn't stand the idea of rap-music being used to motivate younger Blacks, to atone themselves. That's what conscious rap does, yep, thats what rap does when it's uplifting Black people.

Which is why it is not peculiar nor coincidence, that it is the only music-form or subgenre which every record label steers clear of since '93.



Plus There was a lawsuit in 2004 vs. The Big4 Record Labels in US District Court...which proves that you would be dead wrong here, in your assessment.

Music, is a universal language....and those who control it, in America, understand that and they understand that "a populous" will latch onto any music which is crammed down their throats and played over and over again.

This isn't me talking, it's music industry experts. It's people who know that music has a specific effect, on the human mind....no matter who you are



Upon realizing the strides Blacks were about to make, under Clinton's fairness, vs. any previous post-JFK President...something had to be done, and this is what it was. Black males are always the most dangerous thread to White America, so this plan was inevitable, from the day Rapper Delight was heard over the airwaves in 1979.
Give me sum chart numbers to back up your claim.

You sound extremely foolish in thinking that these white executive's were trying to kill a movement. The number goal for any businessman is to make as much money as possible. Everything else is secondary.
They are making money off the music, culture, and prison. The sell the records that make black kids all over America that gang bang is norm unlike in the 80s when we had the Cosby shows and positive hip hop that made knowledge the norm. Everyone in the 80s wanted to be smart, but now they want to be thugs. You make more money off a thugs because you put him in prison and use his labor for peanuts while the smart person wants to get paid. Have you heard that they want to make a prison private with 80 -90% population guarantees for 10-20 years. The private prison will then make products and give those maybe $1.00 /hr when in the real world they might have to paid $15 or more dollars. You do the math.
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