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Zimmerman got Bail...He's OUT; Do anyone know of any case, where murder is committed, gets Bail
Topic Started: Apr 23 2012, 12:47 PM (3,902 Views)
Doctor Magnus Warlock
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No one here is defending racism.

No one here is excusing the murder of this child.

We really don't know all the facts to this case.

Most of us are going by some of the contradictory informations presented by the media.

The media has been trying its best to incite racial division.

We have to calm down, and wait for the prosecution to present its case.

Then we will see how much evidence the prosecution has.
Edited by Doctor Magnus Warlock, Apr 25 2012, 11:19 AM.
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Cray

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Apr 25 2012, 11:16 AM
Trelmorez86
Apr 25 2012, 11:14 AM
The entire time they have not been focusing on his pursuit.

In my eyes that should end the trail, that he initiated the fight when advised not to.

They are investigating the fight. Did trayvon really follow him back to his truck. Did tray on really slam his head into the concrete multiple times. Did tray on really bust his nose.


Sure trayvon may have been heard calling for help. But was this after he beat George to a pulp and George pulled out the gun.

His brother also said trayvon tried to remove the gun from George.


This means if trayvon tried to disarm George then its now considered self defense. (This is what defense will use)

I think none of the above happened but again I didn't see the fight.
Yeah and i have heard so many conflicting reports on his injuries. It would not shock me if Zimmerman get's off.
He should never have pursued trayvon, and if the jury was full of my clones he would be locked up.

Trayvon allegedly tried to disarm George, which if that's the case it would make it self defense.

followed George to his truck which would mean George disengaged from the situation and then trayvon was now the aggressor.

George apparently had his head beaten into the concrete which means that SYG is now in affect if trayvon has become the aggressor. Georges life is now threatened.


This is what they are investigating. Not the pursuit

Edited by Cray, Apr 25 2012, 11:22 AM.
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I haven't been following this anymore but IDK Trayvon tried to disarm Zimmerman.
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Apr 25 2012, 11:32 AM
I haven't been following this anymore but IDK Trayvon tried to disarm Zimmerman.
That is the thing about this case, what we know so far is not quite absolute.

The other important thing is to consider the questions the jury must face in order to decide if Zimmerman is guilty, or not guilty.

It was the jury questions that ultimately led to Casey Anthony being found not guilty.

It was police incompetence, and lack of following procedure "by the book" that led to not guilty for OJ the first time. No way would a black jury convict a black man with evidence collected by maverick law enforcement staff.

I fear that we could have a combination of the two if Zimmerman gets a not guilty verdict.
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Apr 25 2012, 11:32 AM
I haven't been following this anymore but IDK Trayvon tried to disarm Zimmerman.
Don't fall for the okie-doke...some people here do like *playing pretend* for protecting racists.

FACT: doesn't matter what Trayvon did, to disarm Zimmerman, since Trayvon wasn't the aggressor wasn't the antagonizer wasn't the one who went searching for a confrontation wasn't the one who went searching for violence.

FACT: apologizers of racism, keep forgetting, once you go searching for a confrontation ---after Police rep hath reprimanded it--- then you lose your Right to invoke SYG laws. Period. At that point, you are only allowed to use force equal to the violence you went searching for.


Beware of joining racism's apologists, to pretend that it was actually Trayvon, who scoffed @ police-rep then went looking for violent confrontations.
Edited by The SOLE Controller, Apr 25 2012, 12:12 PM.
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Cray

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Apr 25 2012, 12:06 PM
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Apr 25 2012, 11:32 AM
I haven't been following this anymore but IDK Trayvon tried to disarm Zimmerman.
Don't fall for the okie-doke...some people here do like *playing pretend* for protecting racists.

FACT: doesn't matter what Trayvon did, to disarm Zimmerman, since Trayvon wasn't the aggressor wasn't the antagonizer wasn't the one who went searching for a confrontation wasn't the one who went searching for violence.

FACT: apologizers of racism, keep forgetting, once you go searching for a confrontation ---after Police rep hath reprimanded it--- then you lose your Right to invoke SYG laws. Period. At that point, you are only allowed to use force equal to the violence you went searching for.


Beware of joining racism's apologists, to pretend that it was actually Trayvon, who scoffed @ police-rep then went looking for violent confrontations.
Lolol


So if someone Initiates a fight. Then disengages and is then attacked by that person while trying to disengage. Is this self defense?

If that same person attacked you while you were showing signs of surrender and leaving and then tried to disarm you, is this not considered self defense?

So are you saying once you initiate a fight, even if you surrender or disengage you can and must allow someone to shoot you because you started it?
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Cray

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At that point, you are only allowed to use force equal to the violence you went searching for.


Again bro, we don't know what happened.

And you keep thinking I'm saying George is innocent, I'm only telling you what the lawyers will throw out in the court room.

So your statement you made.
If trayvon was trying to disarm him like he says then is shooting trayvon in defense of not getting shot equal force?
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Trelmorez86
Apr 25 2012, 12:22 PM
21dec2012
Apr 25 2012, 12:06 PM
Sub-Negro
Apr 25 2012, 11:32 AM
I haven't been following this anymore but IDK Trayvon tried to disarm Zimmerman.
Don't fall for the okie-doke...some people here do like *playing pretend* for protecting racists.

FACT: doesn't matter what Trayvon did, to disarm Zimmerman, since Trayvon wasn't the aggressor wasn't the antagonizer wasn't the one who went searching for a confrontation wasn't the one who went searching for violence.

FACT: apologizers of racism, keep forgetting, once you go searching for a confrontation ---after Police rep hath reprimanded it--- then you lose your Right to invoke SYG laws. Period. At that point, you are only allowed to use force equal to the violence you went searching for.


Beware of joining racism's apologists, to pretend that it was actually Trayvon, who scoffed @ police-rep then went looking for violent confrontations.
Lolol


So if someone Initiates a fight. Then disengages and is then attacked by that person while trying to disengage. Is this self defense?

If that same person attacked you while you were showing signs of surrender and leaving and then tried to disarm you, is this not considered self defense?

So are you saying once you initiate a fight, even if you surrender or disengage you can and must allow someone to shoot you because you started it?
I apologize pimp, but I can't deal in if's here...let's deal only in facts

FACT: doesn't matter what Trayvon did, to disarm Zimmerman, since Trayvon wasn't the aggressor wasn't the antagonizer wasn't the one who went searching for a confrontation wasn't the one who went searching for violence.

FACT: apologizers of racism, keep forgetting, once you go searching for a confrontation ---after Police rep hath reprimanded it--- then you lose your Right to invoke SYG laws. Period. At that point, you are only allowed to use force equal to the violence you went searching for.
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Apr 25 2012, 12:25 PM
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At that point, you are only allowed to use force equal to the violence you went searching for.


Again bro, we don't know what happened.

And you keep thinking I'm saying George is innocent, I'm only telling you what the lawyers will throw out in the court room.

So your statement you made.
If trayvon was trying to disarm him like he says then is shooting trayvon in defense of not getting shot equal force?
We don't need to know what happened, beyond the facts. Zimmerman isn't going to testify, that is why that legally-bizarre move was made, for him to comment on trial issues @ a bail hearing. By which, he hath now perjured himself-----if you are going by what he said in a mfg. Police report

So all we have are the facts, above, as the police-rep and Trayvon's girlfriend will validate.
Edited by The SOLE Controller, Apr 25 2012, 12:36 PM.
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Cray

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Apr 25 2012, 12:31 PM
Trelmorez86
Apr 25 2012, 12:22 PM
21dec2012
Apr 25 2012, 12:06 PM
Sub-Negro
Apr 25 2012, 11:32 AM
I haven't been following this anymore but IDK Trayvon tried to disarm Zimmerman.
Don't fall for the okie-doke...some people here do like *playing pretend* for protecting racists.

FACT: doesn't matter what Trayvon did, to disarm Zimmerman, since Trayvon wasn't the aggressor wasn't the antagonizer wasn't the one who went searching for a confrontation wasn't the one who went searching for violence.

FACT: apologizers of racism, keep forgetting, once you go searching for a confrontation ---after Police rep hath reprimanded it--- then you lose your Right to invoke SYG laws. Period. At that point, you are only allowed to use force equal to the violence you went searching for.


Beware of joining racism's apologists, to pretend that it was actually Trayvon, who scoffed @ police-rep then went looking for violent confrontations.
Lolol


So if someone Initiates a fight. Then disengages and is then attacked by that person while trying to disengage. Is this self defense?

If that same person attacked you while you were showing signs of surrender and leaving and then tried to disarm you, is this not considered self defense?

So are you saying once you initiate a fight, even if you surrender or disengage you can and must allow someone to shoot you because you started it?
I apologize pimp, but I can't deal in if's here...let's deal only in facts

FACT: doesn't matter what Trayvon did, to disarm Zimmerman, since Trayvon wasn't the aggressor wasn't the antagonizer wasn't the one who went searching for a confrontation wasn't the one who went searching for violence.

FACT: apologizers of racism, keep forgetting, once you go searching for a confrontation ---after Police rep hath reprimanded it--- then you lose your Right to invoke SYG laws. Period. At that point, you are only allowed to use force equal to the violence you went searching for.
Right but what facts do you have of the fight? The courts ain't going off just the pursuit. And you can believe the defense is going to state exactly what I just said.

George stated trayvon was trying to disarm him. They aren't going to tell him,

"We are only talking about the pursuit not the fight"


So you said you can only equal force. If trayvon did bash his head into the concrete while trying to disarm him as George says....then is shooting him not equal force?
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