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I want West Africa countries to give me my 200 acres and two elephants!

They owe it to me!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8356357.stm

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African slavery apology 'needed'


Traditional African rulers should apologise for the role they played in the slave trade, a Nigerian rights group has said in a letter to chiefs.

"We cannot continue to blame the white men, as Africans particularly the traditional rulers, are not blameless," said the Civil Rights Congress.

The letter said some collaborated or actively sold off their subjects.

The group said it was time for African leaders to copy the US and the UK who have already said they were sorry.

It urged Nigeria's traditional rulers to apologise on behalf of their forefathers and "put a final seal to the history of slave trade", AFP news agency reports.



Civil Rights Congress president Shehu Sani says they are calling for this apology because traditional rulers are seeking inclusion in the forthcoming constitutional amendment in Nigeria.

"We felt that for them to have the moral standing to be part of our constitutional arrangement there are some historical issues for them to address," he told the BBC World Service.

"One part of which is the involvement of their institutions in the slave trade."

He said that on behalf of the buyers of slaves, the ancestors of these traditional rulers "raided communities and kidnapped people, shipping them away across the Sahara or across the Atlantic".

Millions of Africans were forcibly transported to the Americas over a period of about 450 years from the middle of the 15th Century.

More than a million people are thought to have died while in transit across the so-called "middle passage" of the Atlantic, due to the inhuman conditions aboard the slave ships and brutal suppression of any resistance.

Many slaves captured from the African interior died on the long journey to the coast.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,91575,00.html

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African Ambassador Apologizes for Slavery Role


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Casino Reparations
By RALPH R. REILAND on 7.21.11 @ 6:05AM

You'd have to be a Crazy Horse to take advantage.


SEA ISLE, N.J. -- James Fenimore Cooper's historical novel The Last of the Mohicans concludes with Tamenund (1628-98), the tribal leader of an Indian clan in the Delaware Valley, lamenting the pain of old age and the near-extinction of his people.

"Why should Tamenund stay?" he asks. "The pale-faces are the masters of the earth, and the time of the red-man has not yet come again."
Well, there's big news up the beach in Atlantic City that would bring a big smile to the old chief's face.

In a development that's sure to move large piles of cash from the wallets of the pale-faces to the pockets of the red-men, the Seminole Tribe of Florida has applied for permits to build a huge Hard Rock casino on the boardwalk. It's a $275 million project, planned to be developed in stages, ending with 850 rooms.

Add a thousand Crazy Horse slot machines with pretty cocktail waitresses serving free fire water, and the pale-faces won't know what hit 'em.
The Seminole Tribe bought the Hard Rock's international business in 2006, paying $965 million for its casinos (except the Vegas location), hotels, restaurants and what's said to be the world's largest inventory of rock memorabilia -- a collection that includes a fancy pair of Elton John's high-heels, an old Bob Dylan guitar and one of Madonna's slightly worn bustiers.

With only some 3,300 members in the Seminole Tribe, the $965 million price tag for the Hard Rock business comes out to $292,424 per tribal member or $1.17 million for a family of four.

When the acquisition of Hard Rock's international business was announced, Seminole Vice Chairman Max Osceola said: "Our ancestors sold Manhattan for trinkets. Today, with the acquisition of Hard Rock Cafe, we're going to buy Manhattan back one hamburger at a time."

Several months later, Mr. Osceola was accused of charging more than $85,000 in "personal expenses" to his tribe-issued American Express credit card. "Most of the charges," reported the Miami Herald, "were for jewelry bought at the Platinum Jewelry Exchange in Hollywood, along with the purchase of Sound Advice stereo equipment, home security services and a Harley-Davidson motorcycle."

Clearly, there's now more going on economically at the reservation than selling beads by the side of the road or charging 50 cents to watch a tribe member wrestle an alligator.

The switch in Seminole fortunes from poverty to riches began when the Seminoles became the first U.S. tribe to offer high-stakes gambling when it opened an unregulated bingo hall in 1979 in Hollywood, Fla.
The money came in fast. "Eighteen years after his small tribe pioneered Indian gambling in America, Seminole Chairman James Billie can cruise over his territory in a $9 million jet and see his tribe awash in money," reported the St. Petersburg Times. The jet once belonged to Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos.

With tribal sovereignty in place that gives the Seminoles the right to self-government, there's no public accounting required regarding how much money each tribal member receives from the tribe's gambling operations, its citrus business or its 25-million-packs-a-year cigarette business. But current estimates are around $200,000 annually for each family of four.
From people across the country seeking to cash in via group victimhood membership, the tribe receives dozens of requests daily from folks trying to determine if they belong on any Seminole family tree. It's like the scratch lottery.
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Mar 31 2012, 01:14 PM
Blacks don't have casinos within inner-city ghettos that make billion$ per year, by which...

a White-racist Fed GOVT & status quo can barely touch one, thin dime of it?


Do we?
Why are you even bothering posting this stuff on here. The majority of the posters on this site are Uncle Toms.

Blacks aren't united like other races. Deal with it. Do your own thing. Whites start businesses and Uncle Toms work for them. When Blue Collar Blacks get money, they open up fish fry markets, auto shops, and a fast food franchise, and etc. They start a business.

Blacks aren't going to get reparations, because the Blacks who could get the ball running for us to get them don't want all Blacks to have money.

That's how a lot of Black people are once they get an "education" from White ran institutions.

Just deal with the shit and move on.
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Mar 31 2012, 02:03 PM
Now, please show how fair you are and how much you feel The Fed should reparate Blacks like they have, Indians
There are many blacks seeking reparations for the crimes committed against our people. I am personally against reparations because I refuse to be bought off. If america thinks for a moment that they can absolve themselves of their wicked crimes by buying negros off, they are mistaken. Those like myself will never allow america to even think they can account for their crimes with a payoff. But that will never happen because whereas america has paid reparations to native americans, japanese, and others, they will never give reparations to negros. Why? Because america and the world recognizes native americans, japanese etc. as human beings and part of the community of nations, and don't recognize negros in that regard. Here is an excerpt from the supreme court's "Dred Scott decision" to explain: (speaking on the constitution)

Yet the men who framed this declaration were great men -- high in literary acquirements -- high in their sense of honor, and incapable of asserting principles inconsistent with those on which they were acting. They perfectly understood the meaning of the language they used, and how it would be understood by others; and they knew that it would not in any part of the civilized world be supposed to embrace the negro race, which, by common consent, had been excluded from civilized Governments and the family of nations, and doomed to slavery. They spoke and acted according to the then established doctrines and principles, and in the ordinary language of the day, no one misunderstood them. The unhappy black race were separate from white by indelible marks, and laws long before established, and were never thought of or spoken of except as property, and when the claims of the owner or the profit of the trader were supposed to need protection.


As you can clearly see, negros were never to be considered more than property and separate from all other peoples and not part of the community of nations. What most of the so-called educated folks here don't know is (as stated) that there was and has been an international conspiracy. That (to answer whozethatgirl) is why no nation of the world will ever speak to the crimes committed against those called the negro.
Edited by Zechariah, May 27 2012, 01:49 AM.
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Apr 2 2012, 10:16 AM
TommyT
Apr 1 2012, 06:59 PM
Well considering that the Indians themselves built those casinos (with their money), again, I don't see what point you're making. The reason they built them is because they are not subject to the laws of the federal gov't in regards to gambling
yes, that is called, a form of reparations
I'm sure you won't see reparations bro.
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Cray

I know my girl is half native american. Part of the Kiowa Tribe....(If thats how its spelled)

Use to go back to see her family at an indian reservation in oklahoma...Watonga Oklahoma I think.

Shitty ass place. Fucked up living and a bunch of small ass casinos all over.
Those people dont see much of that money....

There is however a very large casino no far and thats where the paper is. But the customers (The Natives from her reservation) blow their dough there and drink the rest away at home.


However, one advantage they have. If you have proof, the proper documents that you are blood of the tribe. You can get your bills paid.

I forgot what the shit is called but I dont think its funded by the government. You fill out a form and send it that shit and the tribe pays for your bill. (Like rent, water, power etc)
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Mar 31 2012, 01:36 PM
21dec2012
Mar 31 2012, 01:14 PM
Blacks don't have casinos within inner-city ghettos that make billion$ per year, by which...

a White-racist Fed GOVT & status quo can barely touch one, thin dime of it?


Do we?
What's stopping a black person from opening a casino in da hood?
Now if good ole Ann said that, she would be considered racist against Blacks.
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Pretty much.
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May 26 2012, 07:16 PM
Casino Reparations
By RALPH R. REILAND on 7.21.11 @ 6:05AM

You'd have to be a Crazy Horse to take advantage.


SEA ISLE, N.J. -- James Fenimore Cooper's historical novel The Last of the Mohicans concludes with Tamenund (1628-98), the tribal leader of an Indian clan in the Delaware Valley, lamenting the pain of old age and the near-extinction of his people.

"Why should Tamenund stay?" he asks. "The pale-faces are the masters of the earth, and the time of the red-man has not yet come again."
Well, there's big news up the beach in Atlantic City that would bring a big smile to the old chief's face.

In a development that's sure to move large piles of cash from the wallets of the pale-faces to the pockets of the red-men, the Seminole Tribe of Florida has applied for permits to build a huge Hard Rock casino on the boardwalk. It's a $275 million project, planned to be developed in stages, ending with 850 rooms.

Add a thousand Crazy Horse slot machines with pretty cocktail waitresses serving free fire water, and the pale-faces won't know what hit 'em.
The Seminole Tribe bought the Hard Rock's international business in 2006, paying $965 million for its casinos (except the Vegas location), hotels, restaurants and what's said to be the world's largest inventory of rock memorabilia -- a collection that includes a fancy pair of Elton John's high-heels, an old Bob Dylan guitar and one of Madonna's slightly worn bustiers.

With only some 3,300 members in the Seminole Tribe, the $965 million price tag for the Hard Rock business comes out to $292,424 per tribal member or $1.17 million for a family of four.

When the acquisition of Hard Rock's international business was announced, Seminole Vice Chairman Max Osceola said: "Our ancestors sold Manhattan for trinkets. Today, with the acquisition of Hard Rock Cafe, we're going to buy Manhattan back one hamburger at a time."

Several months later, Mr. Osceola was accused of charging more than $85,000 in "personal expenses" to his tribe-issued American Express credit card. "Most of the charges," reported the Miami Herald, "were for jewelry bought at the Platinum Jewelry Exchange in Hollywood, along with the purchase of Sound Advice stereo equipment, home security services and a Harley-Davidson motorcycle."

Clearly, there's now more going on economically at the reservation than selling beads by the side of the road or charging 50 cents to watch a tribe member wrestle an alligator.

The switch in Seminole fortunes from poverty to riches began when the Seminoles became the first U.S. tribe to offer high-stakes gambling when it opened an unregulated bingo hall in 1979 in Hollywood, Fla.
The money came in fast. "Eighteen years after his small tribe pioneered Indian gambling in America, Seminole Chairman James Billie can cruise over his territory in a $9 million jet and see his tribe awash in money," reported the St. Petersburg Times. The jet once belonged to Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos.

With tribal sovereignty in place that gives the Seminoles the right to self-government, there's no public accounting required regarding how much money each tribal member receives from the tribe's gambling operations, its citrus business or its 25-million-packs-a-year cigarette business. But current estimates are around $200,000 annually for each family of four.
From people across the country seeking to cash in via group victimhood membership, the tribe receives dozens of requests daily from folks trying to determine if they belong on any Seminole family tree. It's like the scratch lottery.
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kennyinbmore
Mar 31 2012, 05:15 PM
21dec2012
Mar 31 2012, 02:03 PM
Now, please show how fair you are and how much you feel The Fed should reparate Blacks like they have, Indians
Answer my question then I'll answer yours.What's stopping a black person from opening a casino?
What's stopping them?


They first need the same _______ that USA Feds gave Indians, to launch reservation projects/open reservation casinos, which of course kicks the Reparating processes into gear.


And oh yey...


Youknow of any Black-owned businesses, which dared, to try to think they had "Rights" to take this route:








NATIVE U.S. TRIBES SEEK FEDERAL BAILOUTS TO OFFSET CASINO LOSSES



The Mashantucket Pequot Tribal Nation, which owns the Foxwoods Resort Casino in southeastern Connecticut, is among federally recognized tribes that, although considered “sovereign nations,” are seeking increased revenues through grants from the U.S. government.

According to the Associated Press, the once billion-dollar Pequot casino empire has, in the past, distributed stipends of more than $100,000 annually to adult tribe members. Now, however, the Pequots join other gaming tribes, including nearby rival casino Mohegan Sun, in the pursuit of more federal aid. The pattern is getting the attention of those who opposed the law that allowed Indian tribes to develop casinos, since the law was promoted as one that would assist tribes in becoming financially self-reliant.

In 1988, Congress passed the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA) which authorized casino gambling on Indian reservations and provided a regulatory and oversight framework for the industry in the form of the National Indian Gaming Commission (NIGC). The purpose of the law was to allow a means for tribes to become self-sufficient in developing their own economies.

‘‘The whole purpose of the 1988 law which authorized Indian casinos was to help federally-recognized tribes raise money to run their governments by building casinos on their reservations,’’ said Robert Steele, a former Connecticut Congressman. ‘‘I would argue strongly that federal money was meant for struggling tribes. Certainly the Mashantucket Pequots and the Mohegans couldn’t under any circumstances be put in that category.’’

Nevertheless, as long as they have federal recognition, the tribes that own casinos are eligible for the same federal grants that are awarded to larger tribes in the western region of the U.S. where poverty and unemployment have been continually widespread. The federal grants, which do not require repayment, help tribes pay for health screenings, road maintenance, and environment preservation.
Mashantucket Pequot Tribal Nation spokesman Bill Satti said that his tribe “is proud of the work they do with the use of federal funds when it comes to assisting the region and fellow Native Americans.” Satti added that the federal funds have been used to support the tribe’s medical clinic and to repair roadways.

Thomas Weissmuller, who served as chief judge of the Pequot Tribal Court until 2011, said that the tribal council had distributed too much money to members and urged the tribe’s leaders to pursue more federal aid. Weissmuller said some leaders hesitated to do so, for fear that such a move would affect the tribe’s sovereignty. He himself was concerned about pursuing federal monies since most of the issues the tribe was dealing with were related to the casino, which is a commercial enterprise.

“A billion-dollar gaming enterprise should fully fund the tribal government,” said Weissmuller, who said that Pequot tribal chairman, Rodney Butler, encouraged him to apply for the federal grants. Weismuller added that he was ultimately forced out of his job by tribal leaders who charged that he did not have the best interests of the tribe at heart in other areas.
According to the U.S. Department of Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs, the relationship between federally recognized tribes and the U.S. is one between sovereigns, i.e., one government to another:

Tribes possess all powers of self-government except those relinquished under treaty with the United States, those that Congress has expressly extinguished, and those that federal courts have ruled are subject to existing federal law or are inconsistent with overriding national policies. Tribes, therefore, possess the right to form their own governments; to make and enforce laws, both civil and criminal; to tax; to establish and determine membership (i.e., tribal citizenship); to license and regulate activities within their jurisdiction; to zone; and to exclude persons from tribal lands.

The Pequots began a financial downturn along with other businesses across the U.S. during the 2008 recession. In that year, however, Foxwoods had just completed a major expansion with the MGM Grand hotel and casino. In 2009, the tribe defaulted on debt exceeding $2 billion.
The Pequots have since ended member stipends, but have kept other benefits in place. Federal grants to the tribe, awarded through the Interior Department, increased from $1 million in 2008 to $2.7 million in 2011. Federal monies granted though Health and Human Services, rose from $1.7 million in 2008 to $1.9 million in 2012.

In January, Steven Thomas, the Pequots’ treasurer, and his brother Michael Thomas, a former tribal chairman, were indicted following an FBI investigation. The two men are accused of stealing a combined $800,000 in tribal money and federal grants.
The Mohegan tribe has also taken federal grants as they faced increasing gambling competition from neighboring states.
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“It’s a sign of the times. Everybody is seeking grants,” said Mohegan chairman Bruce “Two Dogs” Bozsum. “There’s some that we qualify for and it helps us to keep everybody healthy and working. At the end of the day, why shouldn’t we apply for it? If we get approved, it’s always for a good cause, usually health or jobs created.
Another tribe that has been aggressively pursuing federal aid is the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe, which owns the Soaring Eagle Casino and Resort in Michigan.
Edited by U Thant, Jun 1 2014, 11:50 PM.
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