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Am I wrong? For viewing Reservation Casinos, as reparations, for USA's Indian tribes?
Topic Started: Mar 31 2012, 01:14 PM (2,919 Views)
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Now, please show how fair you are and how much you feel The Fed should reparate Blacks like they have, Indians
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Mar 31 2012, 01:58 PM
kennyinbmore
Mar 31 2012, 01:36 PM
What's stopping a black person from opening a casino in da hood?
Please sir I ask th...no, strike that. I beg you, I repeat, beg you to go create your own thread to "Apologize" for Racism which we Blacks absorb.

If you have an idea about opening casinos in the 'hood then please respect the spirit of this discussion and equate it to >[url=/wiki/Native_American_gaming]this[/url]< type of scenario.
So you're saying that the government should segregate blacks from the population (which was purpose of Reservations), just so blacks can have the choice to build casinos on land designated for them? Interesting premise.

First, tell me, who will actually control the land given to us, since the Federal Gov't won't really be involved in how this land is run. Secondly, will all these Casinos be interconnected, since the ones on reservations aren't?

Where will the land being allocated to us be located?

BTW, how is building Casinos reparations, particularly when the Natives already own the land?
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So you're saying that the government should segregate blacks from the population



You mean, continue the 150yr-old practice of separating Blacks from the mainstream population aka inner-city ghettos aka Detroit MI Gary IN Benton Harbor MI etc...



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First, tell me, who will actually control the land given to us, since the Federal Gov't won't really be involved in how this land is run.


Properly vet the officials, then Use democratic processes to decide that what you ask here.


Black Wall Street, Greenwood, 60's NOI, Clinton's Cabinet, etc...all exist as proof of how efficiently things can be ran when have real Black people making the decisions.

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Secondly, will all these Casinos be interconnected, since the ones on reservations aren't?


We'd have to decide that when the time comes, or according to the involvement...because remember now, only about 30-35% of Black America will be involved/willing to accept reparations from our Oppressor as the loyal house NI99ERS will remain where they are.

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BTW, how is building Casinos reparations, particularly when the Natives already own the land?


Remember this is but one solution, equitably laid out. It's not the only one...I actually prefer giving reparations to every Black citizens, who is willing to permanently-separate from America and never return.
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Mar 31 2012, 03:23 PM

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You mean, continue the 150yr-old practice of separating Blacks from the mainstream population aka inner-city ghettos aka Detroit MI Gary IN Benton Harbor MI etc...


What you describe is a result of white-flight, since blacks moved to the north with the dream of being socially integrated with whites. And I doubt those two incidences you listed started a 150 years ago, more like 70-60. But I digress......


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Properly vet the officials, then Use democratic processes to decide that what you ask here.


But this will require conformation with Federal laws, which some reservations refuse to endorse entirely. Furthermore, you'd be adhering to the values of a white society, which (if I take what you say correctly) you're trying to escape.

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Black Wall Street, Greenwood, 60's NOI, Clinton's Cabinet, etc...all exist as proof of how efficiently things can be ran when have real Black people making the decisions.


No one denied that blacks could run things.


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We'd have to decide that when the time comes, or according to the involvement...because remember now, only about 30-35% of Black America will be involved/willing to accept reparations from our Oppressor as the loyal house NI99ERS will remain where they are.


You still haven't described how this is "reparations." Unless the government is paying for these Casinos out of pocket (the Natives you described built their own). I imagine the 30-35% of Black America you describe would rather have tangible/immediate money in their pockets, not Casinos.

In fact, blacks already own one casino:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Majestic_Star_Casino,_LLC

BTW. Casinos are not a guarantee of success.

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I actually prefer giving reparations to every Black citizens, who is willing to permanently-separate from America and never return.


Good luck with this endeavor.
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Mar 31 2012, 02:03 PM
Now, please show how fair you are and how much you feel The Fed should reparate Blacks like they have, Indians
Answer my question then I'll answer yours.What's stopping a black person from opening a casino?
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I had always thought that the people that suffered from injustice directly,were the ones that got reparations.

Lets look at Rosewood Fl.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n10_v87/ai_16283427/

State of Florida to award each Rosewood massacre survivor $100,000 or more

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The state of Florida is planning to send more money to the nine survivors of the racial violence that destroyed the Black community of Rosewood almost 72 years ago.

The survivors, all senior citizens, already have received $50,000 each from the state (JET, Oct. 10, 1994).

They will get an additional $100,000 apiece in January, officials there recently announced. The survivors were merely children when a White mob drove their families from the small community near Gainesville.

"We're winding it down," said Guy David Robinson, an assistant attorney general handling the $2 million compensation plan passed by legislators last spring.

The checks are a result of the violence and humiliation that Blacks in the community suffered on New Year's Day 1923 when a group of Whites went on a rampage after an unsuccessful search for a Black man accused of assaulting a White woman.

A mob burned just about every home in the community, killing at least six Blacks.

The state received 21 applications from people who said they were Rosewood survivors, but only nine had proof, Robinson said. The deadline for applying for compensation was Dec. 31.

Robinson noted that he had charted about 25 families with a total of more than 400 people, but not all have proven their families owned property in Rosewood.


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"survivors" is a powerful word, and means that you actually suffered through the wrong doing!


How many slaves do we have living today, in order to claim reparations?



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kennyinbmore
Mar 31 2012, 05:15 PM
Answer my question then I'll answer yours
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I just broke it down in post#13 here...but feel free to keep cowering keep deflecting keep circumventing addressing why you hate any ideas that call for treating Blacks the same way Indians got treated.
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Mar 31 2012, 08:42 PM

How many slaves do we have living today, in order to claim reparations?



If you didn't ask how many Indians who rake in billion$$$ today, from casino revenues, are Indians who were alive when your Massah'nem stole their country, then don't ask that self-loathing question here.
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UTB
Mar 31 2012, 08:42 PM

How many slaves do we have living today, in order to claim reparations?



If you didn't ask how many Indians who rake in billion$$$ today, from casino revenues, are Indians who were alive when your Massah'nem stole their country, then don't ask that self-loathing question here.
First of all, do you know what an "Indian" reservation is?

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWinreservations.htm

"Am I wrong? For viewing Reservation Casinos, as reparations, for USA's Indian tribes? "

How long has the reservations existed is the question to ask?

"Sub-Negro
Mar 31 2012, 01:39 PM

" Oh and the japanese got reparations too."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

n 1980, Congress established the Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment of Civilians (CWRIC) to study the matter. On February 24, 1983, the commission issued a report entitled Personal Justice Denied, condemning the internment as "unjust and motivated by racism rather than real military necessity".[94] The Commission recommended that $20,000 in reparations be paid to those Japanese Americans who had been victims of internment.
U.S. President Ronald Reagan signs the Civil Liberties Act of 1988, which granted reparations for the internment of Japanese Americans.

In 1988, U.S. President Ronald Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act of 1988, which had been sponsored by Representative Norman Mineta and Senator Alan K. Simpson – the two had met while Mineta was interned at a camp in Wyoming – which provided redress of $20,000 for each surviving detainee, totaling $1.2 billion dollars. The question of to whom reparations should be given, how much, and even whether monetary reparations were appropriate were subjects of sometimes contentious debate.[95]

On September 27, 1992, the Civil Liberties Act Amendments of 1992, appropriating an additional $400 million to ensure all remaining internees received their $20,000 redress payments, was signed into law by President George H. W. Bush, who also issued another formal apology from the U.S. government.

Some Japanese and Japanese Americans who were relocated during World War II received compensation for property losses, according to a 1948 law. Congress appropriated $38 million to meet $131 million of claims from among 23,000 claimants.[96] These payments were disbursed very slowly, the final disbursal occurring in 1965.[96] In 1988, following lobbying efforts by Japanese Americans, $20,000 per internee was paid out to individuals who had been interned or relocated, including those who chose to return to Japan. These payments were awarded to 82,210 Japanese Americans or their heirs at a cost of $1.6 billion; the program's final disbursement occurred in 1999.[13]


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i miss your point here, bruh...Indians make billions of dollars, per year, off of Indian-resv Casinos. White America aka status-quo aka GOP'ers aka Fed Govt aka those who control America, allowed that to come into fruition.

What part about "Blacks get nothing like that" for the survivors and current-victims who live the current effects of The US Slave Trade...do you not comprehend here?

Those Indians enjoying those casino billion$$$ were not yet born, when Massah'nem killed their forefathers and stole this, their country.

Yet, you have no problem with the ways our nation have found, for compensating Indians for what they've absorbed here...Casino revenues, is the main provider for that reparations.


So again, please explain to me why you feel Blacks should have nothing similar?
Edited by The SOLE Controller, Apr 1 2012, 10:36 AM.
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