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Black students perform at level of 30 years ago
Topic Started: Jan 24 2012, 09:38 PM (1,720 Views)
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kennyinbmore
Jan 25 2012, 08:11 AM
my 3rd grade son tests 3 grade levels above in reading and 4 grade levels above in math. I'm good
What type of attitude is that I'm alright and nothing else matters. As Walter Rodney said "Each One Teach One".
The standard of education far too many young black children are getting is substandard and leave them fit for nothing.
Poorly run school districts, lethargic teachers. old text books and equipment and a lack of motivation in the home.
In some states half of all black boys are now dropping out of school and the next stop for them is crime.
IF ANYONE HAS THE TIME BECOME MENTORS, DONATE EVEN BASICS TO YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL, JOIN SATURDAY SCHOOLS.
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Mal
Jan 25 2012, 08:58 AM
kennyinbmore
Jan 25 2012, 08:11 AM
my 3rd grade son tests 3 grade levels above in reading and 4 grade levels above in math. I'm good
What type of attitude is that I'm alright and nothing else matters.
The kind of attitude taken by responsible parents who take their children's education seriously. A child's success in education is in direct correlation to the time and effort put in by the parents to achieve the ultimate goal, which in my opinion is to raise an educated successful child.

Too many black parents didn't take education seriously themselves, so how can they guide their children's educational path. It's not my job to raise someone else's child or tell another parent how to raise their child. In short, you can't save people who don't want to be saved.

As a former teacher in an inner city school and a current volunteer, I can speak on it on a level you can't even begin to approach


The bottom line is there are plenty of black children doing much better than these "stats" that people like you like to post, they just don't get the press. You think there are any white people on white forums highlighting the negativity of their race?
Edited by kennyinbmore, Jan 25 2012, 10:14 AM.
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TommyT
Jan 25 2012, 03:04 AM
Then why the hell would you suggest we open factories, or that Obama give us jobs? Particularly if we aren't smart enough to handle either?

Also, are you saying that blacks are unintelligent?

Based on the stats that your boy Malcolm post a lot of Black men
need the factory jobs so they can become employed. That isn't BR
posting that shit, it is the extreme left winged Malcolm.
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kennyinbmore
Jan 25 2012, 10:09 AM
Mal
Jan 25 2012, 08:58 AM
kennyinbmore
Jan 25 2012, 08:11 AM
my 3rd grade son tests 3 grade levels above in reading and 4 grade levels above in math. I'm good
What type of attitude is that I'm alright and nothing else matters.
The kind of attitude taken by responsible parents who take their children's education seriously. A child's success in education is in direct correlation to the time and effort put in by the parents to achieve the ultimate goal, which in my opinion is to raise an educated successful child.

Too many black parents didn't take education seriously themselves, so how can they guide their children's educational path. It's not my job to raise someone else's child or tell another parent how to raise their child. In short, you can't save people who don't want to be saved.

As a former teacher in an inner city school and a current volunteer, I can speak on it on a level you can't even begin to approach


The bottom line is there are plenty of black children doing much better than these "stats" that people like you like to post, they just don't get the press. You think there are any white people on white forums highlighting the negativity of their race?
That is not based on fact, there are sadly too many black children not doing well in school. 50 percent drop out rates for young boys is not doing well by any standards.
Of course it starts with parents but we should all try and play our part if we have the time and resources to help those that need assistance.
I do not just concentrate on negativity but facts and it is very sad that some of you men are happy and silent when nearly every thread is an attack on black women, our
mothers, sisters and girlfriends yet are so sensitive when I post the realities of life for too many black men which are at crisis point.
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I don't think Sybil even read the article because it clearly states that there is a problem with the current education system, rather then black and latino students not being smart enough.

Minority students aren't being pushed enough, which I agree with. The expantations for black and latino students are much lower then those for whites. Yes parents are partly to blame for this, but if your child is getting all A's at a school where he or she would be getting C's if they were at a more affluent school is that the parents fault or the fault of our education system?
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Mal
Jan 25 2012, 11:02 AM
That is not based on fact, there are sadly too many black children not doing well in school. 50 percent drop out rates for young boys is not doing well by any standards.

That doesn't dispute what I typed. Of course the drop out rate is too high(one drop out is too many), but there are plenty of success stories that don't get the press that drop outs get. In short is 50% are dropping out, then 50% aren't. But that's not the story you get with pieces like these.

I don't have an issue with you or any of the women on this forum pointing out any shortcomings in black men and the majority of posts I make here shows that I'm one of their biggest supporters.

As I said I raised two college graduates and have an 8 yr old that's testing way above grade level. That's no accident, nor is it anythign special in my opinion. any parent that's concerned about their child can achieve those same results


As I said in another thread, the biggest accomplishment I can give to the black race is making sure I raise the children I bring into this world to be succesfull, intelligent, educated adults. It's not my job to save the race, but we can all do our small part of it by taking responsibility of our little corner of it. As I said, you can't help people who don't want to be helped. You can't make another parent care.

EDUCATION STARTS AT HOME
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I think Both Kenny and Mal make a good point. That is to say that it's noble and even critical for all to be concerned with the abhorant condition as it relates to children's education. Afterall those are the future of the race. However, it's difficult to impossible to create and pursue any program to address the dilemna facing those children without the cooperation and support of the parents of those children. Consequently most are forced to accept the more realistic view which always boils down to looking out for self. Education of children is not the only area of concern and crisis facing blacks in america, but all to often we must be realistic and focus on self. It may not be the optimum choice, but probably the more realistic one.
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zecharia
Jan 25 2012, 12:07 PM
Consequently most are forced to accept the more realistic view which always boils down to looking out for self. Education of children is not the only area of concern and crisis facing blacks in america, but all to often we must be realistic and focus on self. It may not be the optimum choice, but probably the more realistic one.
This is the bottom line. Like most black men I would like to help every child succeeed, but at the end of the day, my primary focus is on the ones I create. Sadly not every parent takes parenting seriously and there are some people who just flat out should not procreate
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kennyinbmore
Jan 25 2012, 12:39 PM
zecharia
Jan 25 2012, 12:07 PM
Consequently most are forced to accept the more realistic view which always boils down to looking out for self. Education of children is not the only area of concern and crisis facing blacks in america, but all to often we must be realistic and focus on self. It may not be the optimum choice, but probably the more realistic one.
This is the bottom line. Like most black men I would like to help every child succeeed, but at the end of the day, my primary focus is on the ones I create. Sadly not every parent takes parenting seriously and there are some people who just flat out should not procreate
Given that you work/worked in education, I'm assuming you have a lot of personal experience on this subject. Having no personal experience in education on a professional level, it just seems neccessary, as in so many other aspects of life, that you can't help the disengaged. It's great to want to, but practically it's impossible.
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I agree with what Kenny is saying, but the article brings up a good point about how our schools aren't even pushing kids to do better.

This education gap isn't just about parents being involved or the child's lack of wanting to be helped. It's a shame that black and latino children are being taught something that white students were taught the year before or that Billy can take an advance math class when Donte's school doesn't even offer it or that lower income students are learning from an outdated textbook, when others have brand new ones. Too many minority children are not being given the same education as whites and that is a problem. There was just a story on the news about a school district in PA that is going bankrupt and the state wouldn't even help them out. These kids were sharing textbooks and the teachers and other school staff were working for free. How can a child receive a quality education in that kind of enviroment?

Did anyone else read the article??
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