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Malcolm X interview with Eleanor Fischer
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bilalian1
Jan 11 2012, 09:31 PM
TommyT
Jan 11 2012, 08:33 PM
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Jan 11 2012, 08:03 PM


So they helped each other, they complimented each other
Then Elijah got jealous and some of his followers had Malcolm killed. Especially after Malcolms awakening.
Please learn the history. Elijah wasn't jealous. Malcolm X started saying things about Elijah. A lot of NOI followers didn't like that. The order didn't come from Elijah. Please read the black Mafia. There were strong criminal elements in the NOI who would kill if you did or said anything bad about Elijah. I spoke to members personally who told me this.
If you have contacts with the NOI then you're opinions then you are no better than them. Of course NOI brainwashed think that whatever the NOI cult does is right and anyone who speaks otherwise is wrong.
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bilalian1
Jan 11 2012, 09:31 PM
TommyT
Jan 11 2012, 08:33 PM
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Jan 11 2012, 08:03 PM


So they helped each other, they complimented each other
Then Elijah got jealous and some of his followers had Malcolm killed. Especially after Malcolms awakening.
Please learn the history. Elijah wasn't jealous. Malcolm X started saying things about Elijah. A lot of NOI followers didn't like that. The order didn't come from Elijah. Please read the black Mafia. There were strong criminal elements in the NOI who would kill if you did or said anything bad about Elijah. I spoke to members personally who told me this.
It is that same backwards thinking within the NOI in which needs to continue to be exposed. A spade is a spade, and although El Hajj Malik El-Shabazz was fully aware of the target in which would be placed on his back after having conducted his own investigation as well as having been outspoken regarding Elijah's hypocrisy, I view it as a form strength to not sympathize with such false prophecy. Not only that, the NOI has an extensive history of using the teachings to justify evil acts.

Even a couple of El Hajj Malik El-Shabazz's own brothers sided with those who carried out the assasination, and voiced after his death that he deserved to be silenced in such a heinous manner. With siblings such as they were, he didn't need any enemies.
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bilalian1
Jan 11 2012, 09:31 PM
Please learn the history. Elijah wasn't jealous. Malcolm X started saying things about Elijah. A lot of NOI followers didn't like that. The order didn't come from Elijah. Please read the black Mafia. There were strong criminal elements in the NOI who would kill if you did or said anything bad about Elijah. I spoke to members personally who told me this.
Learn the history? Which history?

It was well known that a number Elijah's followers began to resent Malcolm because his quick rise and overshadowing of Muhammad. His criticism of Muhammad only fueled such resentment. I never said Elijah gave the order to kill Malcom, I said some of his followers had Malcolm executed.

Here's Malcom's own words in regards to Elijah's jealousy:

http://www.malcolm-x.org/docs/int_almus.htm

"Elijah Muhammad allowed himself to become insanely jealous of my own popularity, which went even beyond his own followers and into the non-Muslim community, while his own prestige and influence was limited largely among his immediate followers. While I was still in the movement and blind to his faults by my own uncompromising faith in him, I always thought the jealousy and envy which I saw -- constant signs of was stemming mainly and only from his immediate family, and it was quite shocking to me whenever members of his own family would warn me that it was their father (Elijah Muhammad himself) who had become almost insane with jealous."

That's from the man himself.
Edited by TommyT, Jan 12 2012, 03:43 AM.
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The Black Whirlwind

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Jan 9 2012, 02:25 PM
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That's mighty white ..err..ummm..I mean, republican of ya! Boss weese don know what we would do without ya! That would be great if you republican would stop cutting the straps and stealing the boots. Ya think ?
Malcolm X said that blacks should build their own factories. But slack can't do that when black Democrats are marching on the government for jobs.
Awwwwwwww! That's too bad! :( What are weese gone do?
Stop depending on the government that's what blacks need to do.
First advice is you need to get rid of the picture of that 'negro' who couldn't even be true to his Black wife, let alone Black people. Second, in 1961 Malcolm X was not speaking for himself. He was the national representative for the NOI who were teaching and practicing doing for self since 1931. Third, when Malcolm, the NOI, or Marcus Garvey spoke of not depending upon the government, they were calling a INDEPENDENT BLACK GOVERNMENT. So are you measilly mouth, uncle tom, republican negros ready to organize with your people to establish their own government? Or are you saying don't depend on the white government, just depend on white business?
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It's amazing you got black people that don't want to give the honorable Elijah Muhammad the credit that he deserve.

The church did not get Malcolm out of prison and give him a platform to speak. It was the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam that did. Malcolm became a great leader in the nation of Islam.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad gave Malcolm his last name Shabbazz in 1957.
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Jan 12 2012, 02:41 PM
It's amazing you got black people that don't want to give the honorable Elijah Muhammad the credit that he deserve.

The church did not get Malcolm out of prison and give him a platform to speak. It was the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam that did. Malcolm became a great leader in the nation of Islam.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad gave Malcolm his last name Shabbazz in 1957.
Yeah, if Imam al-Hajj Malik El Shabazz had stopped with Mr Elijah Muhammad, then all that would be true. The fact is that before Mr. Elijah Muhammad, there was Marcus Garvey Noble Drew Ali and a host of other leaders and organizations which worked for and achieved to some extent the rights of self determination for Africans in America. True Mr. Elijah Muhammad, following in the footsteps of Marcus Garvey and Noble Drew Ali, did an excellent work of making African people in the US independent. However, it did not stop there. Imam al-Hajj Malik El Shabazz went on the establish the OAAU, and the MIB, afterwhich the Black Panther Party emerged, and RAM, and the Black Liberation Army, and the Republic of New Afrika.
As freedom fighters we do not get caught up into personality worship. The struggle for freedom is a scientific process which has no room for hagiography, saint worship and neo-paganism. We recognize the great role that Mr. Elijah Muhammad made to the struggle, BUT within the context of those who came before him and those who came after him - NOT concentrating on him! If you are concentrating on Mr. Elijah Muhammad and you yourself have not replicated what he did, then that is cheap hagiography, saint worship and neopaganism. We are beyond that!
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Jan 12 2012, 02:41 PM
It's amazing you got black people that don't want to give the honorable Elijah Muhammad the credit that he deserve.
Elijah should have given himself a bullet for the nonsense he spewed.
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Jan 12 2012, 03:29 PM
Muhammad
Jan 12 2012, 02:41 PM
It's amazing you got black people that don't want to give the honorable Elijah Muhammad the credit that he deserve.

The church did not get Malcolm out of prison and give him a platform to speak. It was the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam that did. Malcolm became a great leader in the nation of Islam.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad gave Malcolm his last name Shabbazz in 1957.
Yeah, if Imam al-Hajj Malik El Shabazz had stopped with Mr Elijah Muhammad, then all that would be true. The fact is that before Mr. Elijah Muhammad, there was Marcus Garvey Noble Drew Ali and a host of other leaders and organizations which worked for and achieved to some extent the rights of self determination for Africans in America. True Mr. Elijah Muhammad, following in the footsteps of Marcus Garvey and Noble Drew Ali, did an excellent work of making African people in the US independent. However, it did not stop there. Imam al-Hajj Malik El Shabazz went on the establish the OAAU, and the MIB, afterwhich the Black Panther Party emerged, and RAM, and the Black Liberation Army, and the Republic of New Afrika.
As freedom fighters we do not get caught up into personality worship. The struggle for freedom is a scientific process which has no room for hagiography, saint worship and neo-paganism. We recognize the great role that Mr. Elijah Muhammad made to the struggle, BUT within the context of those who came before him and those who came after him - NOT concentrating on him! If you are concentrating on Mr. Elijah Muhammad and you yourself have not replicated what he did, then that is cheap hagiography, saint worship and neopaganism. We are beyond that!
When Malcolm X was in prison the honorable Elijah Muhamamd use to write him letters and send him money. When Malcolm X got out of prison he joined the Nation of Islam and through his hard work, the honorable Elijah Muhammad made him a minister and then made him the National Spokesman for the Nation of Islam.

Malcolm X became famous in the Nation of Islam, he became a great leader in the Nation of Islam.
Edited by Muhammad, Jan 12 2012, 09:01 PM.
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bilalian1

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Jan 11 2012, 09:54 PM
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Jan 11 2012, 09:31 PM
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Jan 11 2012, 08:33 PM
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Jan 11 2012, 08:03 PM


So they helped each other, they complimented each other
Then Elijah got jealous and some of his followers had Malcolm killed. Especially after Malcolms awakening.
Please learn the history. Elijah wasn't jealous. Malcolm X started saying things about Elijah. A lot of NOI followers didn't like that. The order didn't come from Elijah. Please read the black Mafia. There were strong criminal elements in the NOI who would kill if you did or said anything bad about Elijah. I spoke to members personally who told me this.
If you have contacts with the NOI then you're opinions then you are no better than them. Of course NOI brainwashed think that whatever the NOI cult does is right and anyone who speaks otherwise is wrong.
no history says you are wrong. it doesn't hurt you to pick up a book.
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bilalian1

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Jan 12 2012, 03:29 PM
Muhammad
Jan 12 2012, 02:41 PM
It's amazing you got black people that don't want to give the honorable Elijah Muhammad the credit that he deserve.

The church did not get Malcolm out of prison and give him a platform to speak. It was the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam that did. Malcolm became a great leader in the nation of Islam.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad gave Malcolm his last name Shabbazz in 1957.
Yeah, if Imam al-Hajj Malik El Shabazz had stopped with Mr Elijah Muhammad, then all that would be true. The fact is that before Mr. Elijah Muhammad, there was Marcus Garvey Noble Drew Ali and a host of other leaders and organizations which worked for and achieved to some extent the rights of self determination for Africans in America. True Mr. Elijah Muhammad, following in the footsteps of Marcus Garvey and Noble Drew Ali, did an excellent work of making African people in the US independent. However, it did not stop there. Imam al-Hajj Malik El Shabazz went on the establish the OAAU, and the MIB, afterwhich the Black Panther Party emerged, and RAM, and the Black Liberation Army, and the Republic of New Afrika.
As freedom fighters we do not get caught up into personality worship. The struggle for freedom is a scientific process which has no room for hagiography, saint worship and neo-paganism. We recognize the great role that Mr. Elijah Muhammad made to the struggle, BUT within the context of those who came before him and those who came after him - NOT concentrating on him! If you are concentrating on Mr. Elijah Muhammad and you yourself have not replicated what he did, then that is cheap hagiography, saint worship and neopaganism. We are beyond that!
Yea, but you worship Malcolm and I think the point is that you would have never known Malcolm X if it was not for Elijah Muhammad.
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