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Malcolm X interview with Eleanor Fischer
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Hopefully you realize when Malcolm X speaks he does so as the mouth piece of Elijah Muhammed.
You must mean Pre-Mecca.
The pre-Mecca Malcolm X is often the most quoted one. When did this interview take place?
Malcolm was no "mouth piece" for Elijah AFTER Mecca. Thus the reason for my comment.
What statements of relevance does Malcolm X make after Mecca except the mixing of the races, which he used for political purposes.
Malcolm was enlightened after Mecca. He begin to see things from a macro perspective rather than the jaded world of the NOI. How can you call your self a messenger when you are laying pipe on young girls in the nation, imprgananting them and kicking them out to fend for themselves? Hypocrisy of the highest order. Has the Nation done some good things for the Black community? I certainly think so, but it doesn't detract from the truth. I use to go to the temples as a young man. However, I never once considered becoming a Muslim. Malcolm believed fervently in the uplifting of the Black community, but I think that he saw that this could not be accomplished in the vaccuum and cacoon of the NOI. Many in the Nation were jealous of Malcolm, which ran counter to the "broterhood" messge that the Nation was promulgating. I think that there were some in the Nation who were complicit in Malcolm's murder. Was it ordered by Elijah or others within the nation in conjunction with J Edna Hoover and the FBI? That is certainly a plausible scenario in my view. One hand "washes" the other...with the blood of a martyr. Malcolm knew that true Islam is made up of all the races before he went to Mecca. He didn't need to go to Mecca to see that. He used his Mecca trip for political purposes because he wanted to work closely with the civil rights movement and others. The NOI kept him in a box, but he knew he needed a larger platform for his vision.
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Jan 11 2012, 08:20 PM
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Malcolm X learned "Do for Self" from Elijah Muhammed.
I don't think so but keep being a NOI clone if you want to. I'll keep my own mind.
Yes Malcolm did learn do for self from the Nation of Islam, he didn't learn it from the church. Great Point!!!!
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Jan 11 2012, 08:23 PM
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Malcolm X learned "Do for Self" from Elijah Muhammed.
I don't think so but keep being a NOI clone if you want to. I'll keep my own mind.
Yes Malcolm did learn do for self from the Nation of Islam, he didn't learn it from the church.
He learned it from Mecca. And the Nation of Islam is a church. Are you doing alright? No, the question is are you alright? Mecca is a place of worship. Please study so it will prevent you from making ignorant statements.
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Jan 11 2012, 08:26 PM
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If Malcolm X gave the NOI credit then why did he immediately leave them after coming back from Mecca enlightened?
If you know your history Malcolm X was put out of the Nation of Islam.
I know the history of Malcolm X. He left. But even if he hadn't, why would he be put out?
Elijah Muhammad sat Malcolm X down after his comments on John Kennedy death.
In your world of fucked up history, if Elijah kicked Malcolm X out of the NOI but kept Farrakhan then who do you think is a better black leader, Farrakhan or Malcolm X? And if Malcolm X is the better black leader then what does that say about Elijah, Farrakhan and the NOI? I can't wait to hear this.
Elijah Muhammad sat Malcolm X down, you can't blame Minister Farrakhan for that.
Let's take out Farrakhan then. Who is the better Black leader, Malcolm X or Elijah? And if Malcolm X is the better Black leader then what does that mean if you say that Elijah kicked him out of the NOI? Who is right? Malcolm X or Elijah? I can't wait to hear this.
Malcolm and Elijah they both helped each other 1. Elijah Muhammad started the nation of Islam 2. When Malcolm X came out of prison he gave Malcolm X a platform to speak 3. Through that platform and great speaking the world came to know Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam So they helped each other, they complimented each other Wow, that is some good knowledge from you. You are right on point!
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Jan 11 2012, 08:33 PM
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So they helped each other, they complimented each other
Then Elijah got jealous and some of his followers had Malcolm killed. Especially after Malcolms awakening.
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Jan 11 2012, 09:04 PM
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If Malcolm X gave the NOI credit then why did he immediately leave them after coming back from Mecca enlightened?
If you know your history Malcolm X was put out of the Nation of Islam.
I know the history of Malcolm X. He left. But even if he hadn't, why would he be put out?
Elijah Muhammad sat Malcolm X down after his comments on John Kennedy death.
In your world of fucked up history, if Elijah kicked Malcolm X out of the NOI but kept Farrakhan then who do you think is a better black leader, Farrakhan or Malcolm X? And if Malcolm X is the better black leader then what does that say about Elijah, Farrakhan and the NOI? I can't wait to hear this.
Elijah Muhammad sat Malcolm X down, you can't blame Minister Farrakhan for that.
Let's take out Farrakhan then. Who is the better Black leader, Malcolm X or Elijah? And if Malcolm X is the better Black leader then what does that mean if you say that Elijah kicked him out of the NOI? Who is right? Malcolm X or Elijah? I can't wait to hear this.
Malcolm and Elijah they both helped each other 1. Elijah Muhammad started the nation of Islam 2. When Malcolm X came out of prison he gave Malcolm X a platform to speak 3. Through that platform and great speaking the world came to know Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam So they helped each other, they complimented each other
Wow, that is some good knowledge from you. You are right on point! Thanks
It was like a marriage that ended in a divorce.
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If Malcolm X gave the NOI credit then why did he immediately leave them after coming back from Mecca enlightened?
If you know your history Malcolm X was put out of the Nation of Islam.
I know the history of Malcolm X. He left. But even if he hadn't, why would he be put out?
Elijah Muhammad sat Malcolm X down after his comments on John Kennedy death.
In your world of fucked up history, if Elijah kicked Malcolm X out of the NOI but kept Farrakhan then who do you think is a better black leader, Farrakhan or Malcolm X? And if Malcolm X is the better black leader then what does that say about Elijah, Farrakhan and the NOI? I can't wait to hear this.
Elijah Muhammad sat Malcolm X down, you can't blame Minister Farrakhan for that.
Let's take out Farrakhan then. Who is the better Black leader, Malcolm X or Elijah? And if Malcolm X is the better Black leader then what does that mean if you say that Elijah kicked him out of the NOI? Who is right? Malcolm X or Elijah? I can't wait to hear this.
Malcolm and Elijah they both helped each other 1. Elijah Muhammad started the nation of Islam 2. When Malcolm X came out of prison he gave Malcolm X a platform to speak 3. Through that platform and great speaking the world came to know Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam So they helped each other, they complimented each other
Wow, that is some good knowledge from you. You are right on point!
Thanks It was like a marriage that ended in a divorce. correct!!!
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So they helped each other, they complimented each other
Then Elijah got jealous and some of his followers had Malcolm killed. Especially after Malcolms awakening. Please learn the history. Elijah wasn't jealous. Malcolm X started saying things about Elijah. A lot of NOI followers didn't like that. The order didn't come from Elijah. Please read the black Mafia. There were strong criminal elements in the NOI who would kill if you did or said anything bad about Elijah. I spoke to members personally who told me this.
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I've learned a lot about Malcolm X from this website, and I really like his way of thinking.
But he is a muslim not a christian and republicans say all muslims are evil and follow a false god.
Democrat Obama bombed a Muslim country called Libya killing 1000's of innocent people. You might need to do your home work before you speak. The poodle callin the german shepard a dog
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If Malcolm X gave the NOI credit then why did he immediately leave them after coming back from Mecca enlightened?
If you know your history Malcolm X was put out of the Nation of Islam.
I know the history of Malcolm X. He left. <br /><br />But even if he hadn't, why would he be put out?
Elijah Muhammad sat Malcolm X down after his comments on John Kennedy death.
In your world of fucked up history, if Elijah kicked Malcolm X out of the NOI but kept Farrakhan then who do you think is a better black leader, Farrakhan or Malcolm X? And if Malcolm X is the better black leader then what does that say about Elijah, Farrakhan and the NOI?<br /><br />I can't wait to hear this.
Elijah Muhammad sat Malcolm X down, you can't blame Minister Farrakhan for that.
Let's take out Farrakhan then. <br /><br />Who is the better Black leader, Malcolm X or Elijah? And if Malcolm X is the better Black leader then what does that mean if you say that Elijah kicked him out of the NOI? Who is right? Malcolm X or Elijah? <br /><br />I can't wait to hear this.
Malcolm and Elijah they both helped each other<br /><br />1. Elijah Muhammad started the nation of Islam<br /><br />2. When Malcolm X came out of prison he gave Malcolm X a platform to speak<br /><br />3. Through that platform and great speaking the world came to know Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam<br /><br />So they helped each other, they complimented each other
Wow, that is some good knowledge from you. You are right on point!
Thanks<br /><br />It was like a marriage that ended in a divorce. Marcus, are obama kids black or white? Whats your opinion?
No percentages
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