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Why do some Black men not take any responsibility for the condition of the Black community?; From school drop outs, unemployment, gangs, abandoning families, prison populations and crime.
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TheDamienofLosAngeles
Jan 5 2012, 10:15 PM
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Jan 5 2012, 10:06 PM
Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
My point was they do not have to beat your azz, but if they correct you for doing wrong, the parents do not have to take the child side without hearing both sides. At some point you know your child and what they may be capable of.
The majority of Blacks on here are left winged liberals. They don't under the concept of anything outside of Blaming Black men, Republicans, and Conservatives, and etc for everything.

If you blame the actual problem, then you're wrong.

I've been around Black people like this face to face, and the only thing I can do shake my head and walk away.
The majority of Blacks being Democrat or liberal is irrelevant to the your suggestion that Blacks should be beaten to become upstanding citizens. Suggesting that a person is wrong because they don't think beating their child for every little thing will automatically straighten them up and therefore must be a Democrat liberal is double r tarded. You blaming Black liberals for your problems put you in the same boat as you say Black liberals are, blaming others for your own issues.
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Jan 5 2012, 10:42 PM
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Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
My point was they do not have to beat your azz, but if they correct you for doing wrong, the parents do not have to take the child side without hearing both sides. At some point you know your child and what they may be capable of.
I understand that. But that's different from Damien suggesting that all children should get their asses beat to make them upstanding citizens. Children who never got whooped in their lives still make upstanding citizens.
Some kids need it and some don't; however, I was one of the ones that needed it early or might would have been in prison.
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Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 10:45 PM
TheDamienofLosAngeles
Jan 5 2012, 10:15 PM
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Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
My point was they do not have to beat your azz, but if they correct you for doing wrong, the parents do not have to take the child side without hearing both sides. At some point you know your child and what they may be capable of.
The majority of Blacks on here are left winged liberals. They don't under the concept of anything outside of Blaming Black men, Republicans, and Conservatives, and etc for everything.

If you blame the actual problem, then you're wrong.

I've been around Black people like this face to face, and the only thing I can do shake my head and walk away.
The majority of Blacks being Democrat or liberal is irrelevant to the your suggestion that Blacks should be beaten to become upstanding citizens. Suggesting that a person is wrong because they don't think beating their child for every little thing will automatically straighten them up and therefore must be a Democrat liberal is double r tarded. You blaming Black liberals for your problems put you in the same boat as you say Black liberals are, blaming others for your own issues.
Blaq, it's not my issue, because I am not the one causing fucked up shit in the Black community.

Never mind...

According to Black liberals, I should have given the 12 year old boy in a cigarette. Heck, Black liberals who don't know shit about hood accept for the occasional visits once a year or from what they see on TV think that gang injunctions are wrongs.

I am not saying that Blacks kids should be randomly spanked by Black strangers. What I am saying is that we should look out for out for kids. Heck, isn't that what Black people like Malcolm is talking about.


The nigga who ran off and left his baby momma to raise his child by herself is totally out of the equation. He needs to be written off. He left, and he ain't coming back. The thugs who are in about of prison are also written off. It's up to Black men who got something going for themselves to not allow kids to do fucked up shit.

BTW, I have no problems giving an 18 year old a cigarette, but I am not giving one to a minor.

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TheDamienofLosAngeles
Jan 5 2012, 09:45 PM
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It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
I got my ass whooped by church members when I fucked up, and I don't have a criminal record.

BTW, that was the 1980s.
Never got my ass whooped by Church Members because I don't believe in God. Instead, I moved to Japan for a while (This is not the study thing I was talking about) and saw Japanese kids getting their ass served to them by their parents for being disrespectful, then I quieted down.

BTW, that was the year 1990. I was 10.
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Jan 5 2012, 11:58 PM
TheDamienofLosAngeles
Jan 5 2012, 09:45 PM
Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
I got my ass whooped by church members when I fucked up, and I don't have a criminal record.

BTW, that was the 1980s.
Never got my ass whooped by Church Members because I don't believe in God. Instead, I moved to Japan for a while (This is not the study thing I was talking about) and saw Japanese kids getting their ass served to them by their parents for being disrespectful, then I quieted down.

BTW, that was the year 1990. I was 10.
You do not see many Asian kids acting a fool like our kids that is because they know what is going to happen. CB talking all that foolishness about discipline, but it is right life and your story just proves it. For example, if a person were to rob a store, the judge is not going to get them to think why it was wrong to rob the store, he will use a form of discipline such as probation or jail. In other words a child has to learn early that if you do something, you are subject to get punished. If the parents use a time out, spanking, taking away a favorite toy, etc so be it. BTW, it is teaching the child how to think and obey laws.
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Jan 6 2012, 07:09 AM
TheKatana
Jan 5 2012, 11:58 PM
TheDamienofLosAngeles
Jan 5 2012, 09:45 PM
Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
I got my ass whooped by church members when I fucked up, and I don't have a criminal record.

BTW, that was the 1980s.
Never got my ass whooped by Church Members because I don't believe in God. Instead, I moved to Japan for a while (This is not the study thing I was talking about) and saw Japanese kids getting their ass served to them by their parents for being disrespectful, then I quieted down.

BTW, that was the year 1990. I was 10.
You do not see many Asian kids acting a fool like our kids that is because they know what is going to happen. CB talking all that foolishness about discipline, but it is right life and your story just proves it. For example, if a person were to rob a store, the judge is not going to get them to think why it was wrong to rob the store, he will use a form of discipline such as probation or jail. In other words a child has to learn early that if you do something, you are subject to get punished. If the parents use a time out, spanking, taking away a favorite toy, etc so be it. BTW, it is teaching the child how to think and obey laws.
Of course the basis for many of the ills affecting us is a lack of discipline in adults and children not sure what you are talking about CB. Manners, brain function, education cannot be instilled in a child that lacks discipline. By that I mean the ability to have self control, to conduct yourself in a good manner and to not do harm to yourself and to others. Too many black people are easily seduced by what looks good and what feels good so crime, promiscuity and a lack of morals are the easiest option. We have lost the ability to instill a strong work ethic, respect for family and self respect.
The prison statistics for Black people are atrocious and this is easily the most serious issue affecting us.
There are a little over 2 million men in prison in the United States and approx 850,000 of those are black men and 700,000 are white men.
More than one in three young black men without a high school diploma is currently behind bars. Young black men who dropped out of high
school are more likely to be incarcerated than employed.
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Jan 6 2012, 07:09 AM
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Jan 5 2012, 11:58 PM
TheDamienofLosAngeles
Jan 5 2012, 09:45 PM
Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
I got my ass whooped by church members when I fucked up, and I don't have a criminal record.

BTW, that was the 1980s.
Never got my ass whooped by Church Members because I don't believe in God. Instead, I moved to Japan for a while (This is not the study thing I was talking about) and saw Japanese kids getting their ass served to them by their parents for being disrespectful, then I quieted down.

BTW, that was the year 1990. I was 10.
You do not see many Asian kids acting a fool like our kids that is because they know what is going to happen. CB talking all that foolishness about discipline, but it is right life and your story just proves it. For example, if a person were to rob a store, the judge is not going to get them to think why it was wrong to rob the store, he will use a form of discipline such as probation or jail. In other words a child has to learn early that if you do something, you are subject to get punished. If the parents use a time out, spanking, taking away a favorite toy, etc so be it. BTW, it is teaching the child how to think and obey laws.
THANK YOU.

It's the Music, and the discipline, and the Role Models. In the Asian Community, you don't see that many guys running around with Over 9,000 baby mamas and 10,000 kids in total, with HIV in his dick and listening to Lil'wayne yelling "Fuck da world I ain't wanna haar" (I don't understand either) and the mom on crack coccaine and heroin, with gangs all over the streets and shit. For asians, You see a bunch of men and women married, the guy in a successful job listening to X Japan's "Endless Rain", the woman at home cooking dinner for the kid and they all come home and play Starcraft together like a happy Asian Family! The streets are clean, and the only shit part is that there's a billion people in your city but who cares?
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Malcolm
Jan 6 2012, 07:54 AM
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Jan 6 2012, 07:09 AM
TheKatana
Jan 5 2012, 11:58 PM
TheDamienofLosAngeles
Jan 5 2012, 09:45 PM
Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
I got my ass whooped by church members when I fucked up, and I don't have a criminal record.

BTW, that was the 1980s.
Never got my ass whooped by Church Members because I don't believe in God. Instead, I moved to Japan for a while (This is not the study thing I was talking about) and saw Japanese kids getting their ass served to them by their parents for being disrespectful, then I quieted down.

BTW, that was the year 1990. I was 10.
You do not see many Asian kids acting a fool like our kids that is because they know what is going to happen. CB talking all that foolishness about discipline, but it is right life and your story just proves it. For example, if a person were to rob a store, the judge is not going to get them to think why it was wrong to rob the store, he will use a form of discipline such as probation or jail. In other words a child has to learn early that if you do something, you are subject to get punished. If the parents use a time out, spanking, taking away a favorite toy, etc so be it. BTW, it is teaching the child how to think and obey laws.
Of course the basis for many of the ills affecting us is a lack of discipline in adults and children not sure what you are talking about CB. Manners, brain function, education cannot be instilled in a child that lacks discipline. By that I mean the ability to have self control, to conduct yourself in a good manner and to not do harm to yourself and to others. Too many black people are easily seduced by what looks good and what feels good so crime, promiscuity and a lack of morals are the easiest option. We have lost the ability to instill a strong work ethic, respect for family and self respect.
The prison statistics for Black people are atrocious and this is easily the most serious issue affecting us.
There are a little over 2 million men in prison in the United States and approx 850,000 of those are black men and 700,000 are white men.
More than one in three young black men without a high school diploma is currently behind bars. Young black men who dropped out of high
school are more likely to be incarcerated than employed.
Agreed. These dumbass and stupid kids can't be helped, but there are people out there who just need a little shove onto the good path of life.
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No kid is stupid or dumb it is often the circumstances that they have been born into that make them what they are.
Black adults need to make better choices before bringing children into the world. When you do not have emotional,
economic or a spiritual foundation then you are often not ready to be a parent. Kids need to see good values, hard
work and good manners in their parents and to have a good example to follow.

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