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Why do some Black men not take any responsibility for the condition of the Black community?; From school drop outs, unemployment, gangs, abandoning families, prison populations and crime.
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cisslybee2012
Jan 5 2012, 08:58 PM
Malcolm
Jan 5 2012, 08:20 AM
We have allowed too many of our youth to run the streets unsupervised, with no discipline, no direction and no hope. Too many "fathers" have decided that the responsibility of raising their kids gets in the way of other selfish endeavors, so they become absent,
Children don't need discipline. They need to be taught independence and how manage themselves. How to think for themselves. They need a living education, not home jail.

And Too many "Mothers" have decided the same thing the guys who got them pregnant decided. And they too become absent although they're right there. The poor kids get an imaginary new daddy everyday. Any guy whose knocking mom's boots. :-/
I do not know about girls, but a male child need discipline. Heck you can survive in this world with some form of it and anyone who believes otherwise does not live in the real world. I have a good work ethic because my father was not going to have any lazy kids and in fact, he treated my cousins the same way. I had to cut grass, work on cars, cook, take care of my younger brother, make minor repairs around the house, pay the bills, help the neighbors, go to school, etc. I am often times 30 minutes early for work and I do my job well because my parents instilled that kind of discipline.

My brothers or nephews have never ran afoul of the law and people often comment on how well manner we are. Now I have an aunt with seven kids, but my parents helped with the first three and you can see the different. The oldest three all complete high school and two have college degrees with the oldest having a PhD.The third person is an artist. The last four have ran afoul of the law. The oldest girl has seven kids and never complete High school. The other girl was very smart, but dropped out of school to run the street. Our uncle say something to her and they called the police on him and told him he had no right to say anything about what she does because he was not the father. One of the boy was in and out jail since he was 15.The baby is the only one with a degree, but guess what, he was raised by school teacher and military man.

The lesson I learned from my parents was you have to give a child boundaries and you remove the boundaries as the child mature. My case, how many parents would trust their 16 year old with the check book. They would sign the checks and I was fill them out to pay bills or buy food or clothes.
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TheDamienofLosAngeles
Jan 5 2012, 09:10 PM
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Jan 5 2012, 01:39 PM
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Jan 5 2012, 01:34 PM
Real men have to fight women how exactly?
He means domestic Abuse.
He's a sick son of a bitch.
No I do not. I recall when I was growing up any grown person could say something if they saw you doing wrong and your parents took their side. The worse thing you could do was tell a lie on a grown person because you got your butt whipped and you might get whipped because the grown person had to say something to you.

Today, quite a few women are quick to take the child side and there have been many cases where a mother has come to the school to beat a teacher up because the child told a lie or was corrected. My point was if you say something to the child you may get jumped on by the mother and child or they will call the police. You see, I use to teach school so I saw it all first hand.
That is true.

I got cussed out by a Black mother, because I got on her 12 year old son's case for trying to damn near jack me for a cigarette. The little brat was telling me what hood he is from and that I better give him a cigarette.

I would have taken off my belt and tore into his little behind. The sad thing is this little fool is going to end up in jail or LLLLLLLLLLL!
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It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
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Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
I got my ass whooped by church members when I fucked up, and I don't have a criminal record.

BTW, that was the 1980s.
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Jan 5 2012, 09:45 PM
Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
I got my ass whooped by church members when I fucked up, and I don't have a criminal record.

BTW, that was the 1980s.
I never got my ass whooped by church members or other Black strangers and not only do I have a pristine record but I also don't have a ton of anti-Black baggage.

From your own words you've not only been a fuck up since birth but you let people you don't even know beat your ass just because they were Black. From the looks of it, it didn't really work out for you or your mindset.
Edited by n.W.o., Jan 5 2012, 09:59 PM.
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Jan 5 2012, 09:25 PM
cisslybee2012
Jan 5 2012, 08:58 PM
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Jan 5 2012, 08:20 AM
We have allowed too many of our youth to run the streets unsupervised, with no discipline, no direction and no hope. Too many "fathers" have decided that the responsibility of raising their kids gets in the way of other selfish endeavors, so they become absent,
Children don't need discipline. They need to be taught independence and how manage themselves. How to think for themselves. They need a living education, not home jail.

And Too many "Mothers" have decided the same thing the guys who got them pregnant decided. And they too become absent although they're right there. The poor kids get an imaginary new daddy everyday. Any guy whose knocking mom's boots. :-/
I do not know about girls, but a male child need discipline. Heck you can survive in this world with some form of it and anyone who believes otherwise does not live in the real world. I have a good work ethic because my father was not going to have any lazy kids and in fact, he treated my cousins the same way. I had to cut grass, work on cars, cook, take care of my younger brother, make minor repairs around the house, pay the bills, help the neighbors, go to school, etc. I am often times 30 minutes early for work and I do my job well because my parents instilled that kind of discipline.

My brothers or nephews have never ran afoul of the law and people often comment on how well manner we are. Now I have an aunt with seven kids, but my parents helped with the first three and you can see the different. The oldest three all complete high school and two have college degrees with the oldest having a PhD.The third person is an artist. The last four have ran afoul of the law. The oldest girl has seven kids and never complete High school. The other girl was very smart, but dropped out of school to run the street. Our uncle say something to her and they called the police on him and told him he had no right to say anything about what she does because he was not the father. One of the boy was in and out jail since he was 15.The baby is the only one with a degree, but guess what, he was raised by school teacher and military man.

The lesson I learned from my parents was you have to give a child boundaries and you remove the boundaries as the child mature. My case, how many parents would trust their 16 year old with the check book. They would sign the checks and I was fill them out to pay bills or buy food or clothes.
No.

A male child has a brain and he has to be taught how to use it.

The ignorance of parents are the biggest and foremost enemy to all children. They create perfect slaves for the states to use and throw away. :-/
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Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
My point was they do not have to beat your azz, but if they correct you for doing wrong, the parents do not have to take the child side without hearing both sides. At some point you know your child and what they may be capable of.
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Jan 5 2012, 09:59 PM
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Jan 5 2012, 09:45 PM
Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
I got my ass whooped by church members when I fucked up, and I don't have a criminal record.

BTW, that was the 1980s.
I never got my ass whooped by church members or other Black strangers and not only do I have a pristine record but I also don't have a ton of anti-Black baggage.

From your own words you've not only been a fuck up since birth but you let people you don't even know beat your ass just because they were Black. From the looks of it, it didn't really work out for you or your mindset.
I am not as anti Black as you claim I am.

I am against people who think it's okay to foul shit towards someone who is naive. I have made that clear several times on this forum.

Now if that makes me anti Black, then so be it.

I am also against people thinking that there is only way one to make it, and that having a lot of money and property is the only way to be happy. Basically I am sick and tired of uppity Blacks forcing their lifestyles on people like myself.

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Jan 5 2012, 10:06 PM
Blaq
Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
My point was they do not have to beat your azz, but if they correct you for doing wrong, the parents do not have to take the child side without hearing both sides. At some point you know your child and what they may be capable of.
The majority of Blacks on here are left winged liberals. They don't under the concept of anything outside of Blaming Black men, Republicans, and Conservatives, and etc for everything.

If you blame the actual problem, then you're wrong.

I've been around Black people like this face to face, and the only thing I can do shake my head and walk away.
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Jan 5 2012, 10:06 PM
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Jan 5 2012, 09:31 PM
It was a different time then. You had faith that almost any Black person in your vicinity had your child's best interest in mind. These days you have Blacks who delight in tearing specifically other Blacks down due to self-hate or other personal issues. And to suggest that in this day and age Black people should allow strangers to discipline their children just because they happen to be Black is double r tarded. It's not 1969. It's 2012.
My point was they do not have to beat your azz, but if they correct you for doing wrong, the parents do not have to take the child side without hearing both sides. At some point you know your child and what they may be capable of.
I understand that. But that's different from Damien suggesting that all children should get their asses beat to make them upstanding citizens. Children who never got whooped in their lives still make upstanding citizens.
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