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Why are black men turning to homosexuality?; What has happened to the black man?
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zecharia
Mar 10 2011, 11:44 AM
The issue of homosexuality is for many an issue of principle. Many cannot and will not ever reconcile to paricipating in or accepting others participating in homosexuality. Those that hold their views based on principle be it pro or con are entitled to their opinions. Most have given due consideration to the issue and shouldn't be insulted for their opinions. I am personally against it, but that's MY opinion. However as we look down the road, one way for white society to rid itself of the revolutionary black man is to rid him of his manhood. It's hard to have a strong black manly image when getting rearended.
I understand issues of principle. But there are times when we have to look at those principles and ask whether they're worth upholding when they cause harm. If you have a gay child, no amount of hating homosexuality or forbidding it in your house is going to make them straight. They're going to be gay regardless of how much straightness you try to impose on them. If anything, it'll give them more reason to rebel and grow distant from you.

You want to talk about getting rid of the revolutionary black man? Look at how our people are behind in education, too often come from broken homes, are fed a constant diet of negative hip hop, etc. How do you expect homosexuality to have the same effect yet only with black people?
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Mar 10 2011, 03:42 AM
Mister J
Mar 10 2011, 12:02 AM
sudo
Mar 9 2011, 07:15 PM
@Mister J
Like straight people, not all gays partake in the same sexual activities.

I hope your children grow to be able to make decisions about themselves, for themselves. When they're on their own, it's not your life they're living.
When you came 'out' on this forum, I noticed practically noone, besides myself, dared open their mouth about it, right away.
They waited to see the response others might give, to see who would jump forward, for or against, your disclosure.

That, IMV, was cowardly.

But more to the point of your comments: it's okay for you to 'hope' that my children will grow to make their own decisions.
No harm in 'hoping' that, at all.

And, yeah, I know and understand that they are not 'living my life'.
But I also know that it's my prerogative to raise my offsping in a manner that I find suitable and wise.

So, we'll just have to let destiny decide how things work out.
If we're going to talk about the vibes we get from how people are or aren't posting then I've got to say, you've had a strange relationship with this thread. When I posted that I had experimented in the past, you were the only person to acknowledge it; flamboyantly so. It was if you couldn't believe that on this big internet, there was someone who had homosexual encounters. I took the fact that no one else mentioned it until pages later to mean that no one really cared that much about it one way or another. Other than memdear70, I don't think anyone even mentioned it until you made the post I'm quoting.

Your next post was simply to bump the thread. Someone would've inevitably posted something in the thread, but I guess you just couldn't wait to talk about black men and homosexuality for some reason.

In your third post, you again seem a little desperate to talk about gays, so you go back and respond to memdear70's opening post. Then you go into this denigrating, "I don't get why them gays are gay oh well I'm straight everybody!" mini-rant. Your fourth post follows the exact same formula; respond to memdear70's OP, make sure that people know you don't "get" gays and that you're straight. I'd be lying if I said I didn't wonder if you were a little more curious about the subject matter than you're letting on, but I wouldn't expect you to admit to that even if you were.

I'll give you some credit for your fifth post which was introspective. But you really don't need to preface gays by the sexual activities you think they partake in. "Twat-suckin' dykes" takes your post down a few levels. Do you call straight women "dick sucking bitches"?

Anyways, I do agree with you that in raising your child, destiny, or some other force which is beyond our total comprehension, will rule in determining the path they take.
I see you paid particular attention to my posting pattern and content, on this thread.
Your noticeable absence, right after 'coming out', must've been done to stand-aside and observe the reactions to your abrupt, unexpected, and 'breaking-news' announcement.

And, yes, you are correct about my intentionally bumping the thread... but you're NOT correct about WHY I did it.
It wasn't so much that I WAS eager to talk about homosexuality (as my post history contains many comments on that subject)... It was primarily done to not let your announcement go quietly UNaddressed by the same people who had rushed to embrace you, upon arrival, and lavished compliments your previous, introductory posts.
I wanted to see if any of them, after having gotten chummy with you, would dare open their mouth about your 'startling' disclosure - and how long that would take.

I'll say it again: a lot of how/what people post on blogs is influenced by the 'Internet Buddyships' they form, in the course of being there.
There are even instances, here, where posters bring in a 'new' member to lend support to their efforts (whatever those efforts may be).

But don't go putting YOUR words in my mouth, such as, "I don't get why them gays are gay oh well I'm straight everybody!", because that is NOT a quote from me... It's YOUR twisting interpretation on how YOU wish to portray what I stated.
You should've used the 'quote' feature provided on the posting page... that way you would've reported me NOT using the defusing, buzz-word "gay", as I seldom do... but using the term HOMOSEXUAL, as I often do.

And about your snide speculation that I - or anyone else taking the same position - must be "curious" (or worse, 'closeted') about what it is like to suck dicks or ream male asses, or have the same done to me...
I won't even bother to dignify that with a sensible reply.

Instead, I'll invite anyone, interested, to check-out how I have ALREADY [and solidly] debunked that propaganda elsewhere on this board (most likely found in the Lezbo threads).

For now, let it suffice for me to say that that is a completely B.S. tactic used by homosexual supporters as a counter-measure personal, attack on anyone who publically oppose the 'normalization' of homosexual practice in society.

However, it doesn't work on me because I'm perceptive enough to see it for what it is, and quite capable of 'shooting' it down.

So, you gotta try that one on someone else, Bud.
Edited by Mister J, Mar 10 2011, 02:27 PM.
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zecharia
Mar 10 2011, 11:44 AM
The issue of homosexuality is for many an issue of principle. Many cannot and will not ever reconcile to paricipating in or accepting others participating in homosexuality. Those that hold their views based on principle be it pro or con are entitled to their opinions. Most have given due consideration to the issue and shouldn't be insulted for their opinions. I am personally against it, but that's MY opinion. However as we look down the road, one way for white society to rid itself of the revolutionary black man is to rid him of his manhood. It's hard to have a strong black manly image when getting rearended.
^^ This might be the single, most definitive and balanced, commentary on this entire thread, thus far.

Kudos to you, Zecharia, for giving it.
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asiaticman7
Mar 10 2011, 12:59 AM
Because they are sick, weak-minded individuals. The process of Effeminization is a bitch. Our women are feminine now we have so called men walking around here like little bitches. The worst of them though are the undercover brothas.

I will forever and always love black/latino women. I find absolutely nothing attractive about another man. Ain't nothing better than a fine naked black/latino beautiful woman!

Homosexuality equals ughhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
^^ I mean, when it boils down to it, many people are just as no-nonsense and outspoken about this as the quote above.

But, of course, the homo-supporters and apologists will come in and say you must be 'in da closet' or "curious" about having sex with men, to be making such "bashing" and harsh remarks about homosexuals.

Figure that one out.

*scratching head*
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Mister J
Mar 10 2011, 12:57 PM
sudo
Mar 10 2011, 03:42 AM
Mister J
Mar 10 2011, 12:02 AM
sudo
Mar 9 2011, 07:15 PM
@Mister J
Like straight people, not all gays partake in the same sexual activities.

I hope your children grow to be able to make decisions about themselves, for themselves. When they're on their own, it's not your life they're living.
When you came 'out' on this forum, I noticed practically noone, besides myself, dared open their mouth about it, right away.
They waited to see the response others might give, to see who would jump forward, for or against, your disclosure.

That, IMV, was cowardly.

But more to the point of your comments: it's okay for you to 'hope' that my children will grow to make their own decisions.
No harm in 'hoping' that, at all.

And, yeah, I know and understand that they are not 'living my life'.
But I also know that it's my prerogative to raise my offsping in a manner that I find suitable and wise.

So, we'll just have to let destiny decide how things work out.
If we're going to talk about the vibes we get from how people are or aren't posting then I've got to say, you've had a strange relationship with this thread. When I posted that I had experimented in the past, you were the only person to acknowledge it; flamboyantly so. It was if you couldn't believe that on this big internet, there was someone who had homosexual encounters. I took the fact that no one else mentioned it until pages later to mean that no one really cared that much about it one way or another. Other than memdear70, I don't think anyone even mentioned it until you made the post I'm quoting.

Your next post was simply to bump the thread. Someone would've inevitably posted something in the thread, but I guess you just couldn't wait to talk about black men and homosexuality for some reason.

In your third post, you again seem a little desperate to talk about gays, so you go back and respond to memdear70's opening post. Then you go into this denigrating, "I don't get why them gays are gay oh well I'm straight everybody!" mini-rant. Your fourth post follows the exact same formula; respond to memdear70's OP, make sure that people know you don't "get" gays and that you're straight. I'd be lying if I said I didn't wonder if you were a little more curious about the subject matter than you're letting on, but I wouldn't expect you to admit to that even if you were.

I'll give you some credit for your fifth post which was introspective. But you really don't need to preface gays by the sexual activities you think they partake in. "Twat-suckin' dykes" takes your post down a few levels. Do you call straight women "dick sucking bitches"?

Anyways, I do agree with you that in raising your child, destiny, or some other force which is beyond our total comprehension, will rule in determining the path they take.
I see you paid particular attention to my posting pattern and content, on this thread.
Your noticeable absence, right after 'coming out', must've been done to stand-aside and observe the reactions to your abrupt, unexpected, and 'breaking-news' announcement.

And, yes, you are correct about my intentionally bumping the thread... but you're NOT correct about WHY I did it.
It wasn't so much that I WAS eager to talk about homosexuality (as my post history contains many comments on that subject)... It was primarily done to not let your announcement go quietly UNaddressed by the same people who had rushed to embrace you, upon arrival, and lavished compliments your previous, introductory posts.
I wanted to see if any of them, after having gotten chummy with you, would dare open their mouth about your 'startling' disclosure - and how long that would take.

I'll say it again: a lot of how/what people post on blogs is influenced by the 'Internet Buddyships' they form, in the course of being there.

But don't go putting YOUR words in my mouth, such as, "I don't get why them gays are gay oh well I'm straight everybody!", because that is NOT a quote from me... It's YOUR twisting interpretation on how YOU wish to portray what I stated.
You should've used the 'quote' feature provided on the posting page... that way you would've reported me NOT using the defusing, buzz-word "gay", as I seldom do... but using the term HOMOSEXUAL, as I often do.

And about your snide speculation that I - or anyone else taking the same position - must be "curious" (or worse, 'closeted') about what it is like to suck dicks or ream male asses, or have the same done to me...
I won't even bother to dignify that with a sensible reply.

Instead, I'll invite anyone, interested, to check-out how I have ALREADY [and solidly] debunked that propaganda elsewhere on this board (most likely found in the Lezbo threads).

For now, let it suffice for me to say that that is a completely B.S. tactic used by homosexual supporters as a counter-measure personal, attack on anyone who publically oppose the 'normalization' of homosexual practice in society.

However, it doesn't work on me because I'm perceptive enough to see it for what it is, and quite capable of 'shooting' it down.

So, you gotta try that one on someone else, Bud.
The only reason I noted your posting initially was because of the way you made such a big deal over my revelation. My "noticeable absence" was because there were no posts which I felt needed my response.

I was initially curious about what the reactions would be, but just lost interest, in both the thread and the forums in general. I signed out and popped my head in a few times to look at the discussion. It wasn't until a day or two ago that I felt an urge to post.

I never meant to imply that you may be closeted or bicurious. I did mean to imply that you were curious about the topic of homosexuality. There's nothing wrong or even gay about that. And no, that's not because you spoke against it. That's because you displayed some of the patterns of people who have latent homosexual curiosities, some of the same ones shutupalready spoke of. Again, I'm not saying you're gay, or bi for that matter.
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Mar 10 2011, 12:31 PM
zecharia
Mar 10 2011, 11:44 AM
The issue of homosexuality is for many an issue of principle. Many cannot and will not ever reconcile to paricipating in or accepting others participating in homosexuality. Those that hold their views based on principle be it pro or con are entitled to their opinions. Most have given due consideration to the issue and shouldn't be insulted for their opinions. I am personally against it, but that's MY opinion. However as we look down the road, one way for white society to rid itself of the revolutionary black man is to rid him of his manhood. It's hard to have a strong black manly image when getting rearended.
I understand issues of principle. But there are times when we have to look at those principles and ask whether they're worth upholding when they cause harm. If you have a gay child, no amount of hating homosexuality or forbidding it in your house is going to make them straight. They're going to be gay regardless of how much straightness you try to impose on them. If anything, it'll give them more reason to rebel and grow distant from you.

You want to talk about getting rid of the revolutionary black man? Look at how our people are behind in education, too often come from broken homes, are fed a constant diet of negative hip hop, etc. How do you expect homosexuality to have the same effect yet only with black people?
If you understand issues of principle then you understand that all are entitled. I don't think it changes anything to worry or harp on someone else's right to exercise their opinion and principles. Sometimes it's better to agree to disagree.
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kennyinbmore
Mar 10 2011, 10:41 AM
shutupalready
Mar 10 2011, 07:26 AM
I have always said that those who are so outwardly in opposition to homosexuality, who harp on it when others have move past it, who bash on the regular are really suppressing their own feelings.


I could be wrong though.

LOL!
I've always had that same opinion. It's like them seeing a gay person strikes a nerve :P I mean come on, disowning your own children? Wow
LOL!

Don't agree with me Kenny, people will think we are the same person. Again

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Mister J
Mar 10 2011, 11:11 AM
sam_wilson
Mar 10 2011, 01:20 AM
I pretty much said all I needed to on the Charlie Sheen saga. I called you a joke because you would actually disown your own kids over romantic preferences. If they are grown, and their activities are legal, what they do in the bedroom is no concern of yours. You have your life, and you are free to do whatever you want, they have the same right. You don't have to agree with their choices, but you should love them the same. Over a 30 day period, you flirted with a married woman online, but want to throw stones at gay folks?

If it makes you feel better, I dissed Black Hitler too.
sam wilson
 
I pretty much said all I needed to on the Charlie Sheen saga.
Yeah, sure you did.

I tend to think you ducked-out because you could no longer defend either her OR your original stated 'opinion', after I introduced a much more credible way to view that situation.

And regarding how you think my parenting philosophy is flawed and contrast with your own...
It's perfectly fine for us to differ in our many stances on parenting.
I've come to expect no less given all the "freedoms" everyone, including children, are diabolically, encouraged to pursue.

But your notion of me flirting with a so-called "married" woman, online, being in the same category as males ACTUALLY (not virtually) having sex with males, or females ACTUALLY (not virtually) having sex with females, makes you look very weak-minded and/or too corrupted by your own accommodation for homosexuality to partake in a sensible discussion on it.
For the record, there was absolutely no credible view introduced.


I stopped commenting because arguing with a relentless moron is dumb.

And although you said you were done 15 times, you kept coming back so I decided to end it.

As plain as day, everyone saw what happened.


But if it makes you feel better to think you somehow "won", so be it.



Oh and I elicited and prompted you for my own personal entertainment, have you not noticed I am antagonizing you. Have you not noticed the sarcasm?


By the way Malaika is not my real name, I would never disclose that to strangers on the net, which is why you also never received a picture. So I wanted absolutely nothing!
Edited by negroplease, Mar 10 2011, 02:33 PM.
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Mister J
Mar 10 2011, 11:11 AM
sam_wilson
Mar 10 2011, 01:20 AM
I pretty much said all I needed to on the Charlie Sheen saga. I called you a joke because you would actually disown your own kids over romantic preferences. If they are grown, and their activities are legal, what they do in the bedroom is no concern of yours. You have your life, and you are free to do whatever you want, they have the same right. You don't have to agree with their choices, but you should love them the same. Over a 30 day period, you flirted with a married woman online, but want to throw stones at gay folks?

If it makes you feel better, I dissed Black Hitler too.
sam wilson
 
I pretty much said all I needed to on the Charlie Sheen saga.
Yeah, sure you did.

I tend to think you ducked-out because you could no longer defend her OR your original stated 'opinion', after I introduced a much more credible way to view that situation.

And regarding how you think my parenting philosophy is flawed and contrast with your own...
It's perfectly fine for us to differ in our many stances on parenting.
I've come to expect no less given all the "freedoms" everyone, including children, are diabolically, encouraged to pursue.

But your notion of me flirting with a so-called "married" woman, online, being in the same category as males ACTUALLY (not virtually) having sex with males, or females ACTUALLY (not virtually) having sex with females, makes you look very weak-minded and/or too corrupted by your own accommodation for homosexuality to partake in a sensible discussion on it.
Most people who are against homosexuality do so for "moral" reasons. I could actually see a religious freak like Marcus making your arguments. But for you, Mr. playa-pimp who brags about all the tail at your disposal to be so strongly against it makes you look hypocritical. You don't have the moral high ground to criticize anybody's sexual lifestyle. All the additional posting of you justifying your behavior with SUA was too odd to comment on. The only person who offered you succor was Azucar of all people. My position still stands that I would never flirt with a woman who claims to be married. Because if she really is married, and her hubby finds out, you just earned a truckload of drama. You wanted to know her real name, and you wanted pictures. For all you know, some of your exchanges with her could have actually been her husband. Or, he could have been next to her as she was pming you. I was surprised that you would even invite that kind of drama. If we go by the Bible, adultery is a sin (ask poor King David). Whoremongering is frowned upon in the Bible also (ask poor Samson).
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shutupalready
Mar 10 2011, 02:18 PM
LOL!

Don't agree with me Kenny, people will think we are the same person. Again

Heh heh . I'm an atheist, there's something we probably don't agree on
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