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Why are African Americans afraid of economic empowerment.; We as black people need to start businesses.
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kennyinbmore
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Rick1
Nov 28 2012, 01:30 PM
It's called "Free Advice, Inc". Lol!!!
You ever notice these broke ass niggas always got advice but no business :D
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No business giving advice. Lol!
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kennyinbmore
Nov 28 2012, 01:31 PM
UTB
Nov 28 2012, 12:47 PM
The "solution" is very simple!

GO BACK TO STATE MANDATED SEGREGATION! WHEN WHITES TOLD NEGROES THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT NEGROES IN THEIR STORES, NEGROES STARTED BUILDING THEIR OWN BUSINESSES!
That's the dumbest shit you ever wrote
That's because you were NOT around when black bussiness flourished during the days of segregation. You can't have it both ways bro, either STOP doing any business with whites and get your own, or shut the fuck up! Other newly arrived races have a business attitude, and will get into a business as soon as possible, while Negroes moan,groan and wish that things would change! Look at the gas stations in many cities, Paki's and Indians virtually control of all of them in the inner cities! Africans here have tire shops,mom and pop stores, Latinos have their own TV stations, radio stations,grocery stores taxi service,etc. How can these people do it?

In the days of segregation, in some stores you couldn't even try on a suit, and a side window for Negroes at Dairy Queen. See, I've been through all of that, and I also know that during the days of segregation, Negroes prospered. You tell me what the hell happened Kenny.
Edited by UTB, Nov 28 2012, 07:33 PM.
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Le'ts be real. "Black" people have survived for thousands of years. Keep writing these stupid ass "Doom N Gloom: Extinction of Black Race" posts if you want to but we all know what's going on.
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Nov 28 2012, 07:33 PM
kennyinbmore
Nov 28 2012, 01:31 PM
UTB
Nov 28 2012, 12:47 PM
The "solution" is very simple!

GO BACK TO STATE MANDATED SEGREGATION! WHEN WHITES TOLD NEGROES THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT NEGROES IN THEIR STORES, NEGROES STARTED BUILDING THEIR OWN BUSINESSES!
That's the dumbest shit you ever wrote
That's because you were NOT around when black bussiness flourished during the days of segregation. You can't have it both ways bro, either STOP doing any business with whites and get your own, or shut the fuck up! Other newly arrived races have a business attitude, and will get into a business as soon as possible, while Negroes moan,groan and wish that things would change! Look at the gas stations in many cities, Paki's and Indians virtually control of all of them in the inner cities! Africans here have tire shops,mom and pop stores, Latinos have their own TV stations, radio stations,grocery stores taxi service,etc. How can these people do it?

In the days of segregation, in some stores you couldn't even try on a suit, and a side window for Negroes at Dairy Queen. See, I've been through all of that, and I also know that during the days of segregation, Negroes prospered. You tell me what the hell happened Kenny.
I have grandparents and various grand-aunts and uncles who were alive during segregation. Not one of them, a single one, says that it was better for any Black person. Period. You are the only "Black" person (heh) I know who routinely calls for segregation and claims it was better and I've chatted with old folks in my damn grandmother's nursing home. So cut the fucking bullshit. You haven't been through shit. And anyone who thinks Black people prospered in the damn 40's and 50's apparently never lived a single fucking year or talked to anyone who has lived a single year in that time period.

You don't even know what fucking Uncle Tom's Cabin is about and you fucked up a comic strip by 20 years because you Googled it and took down the wrong date. Cracka, suck deez.
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Rick1
Nov 28 2012, 12:42 PM
Banks will not give blacks the money to start a business.
That's just what I'm talking about. Without the start-up capital how do you start a business unless you win the lottery?
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kennyinbmore
Nov 28 2012, 01:31 PM
UTB
Nov 28 2012, 12:47 PM
The "solution" is very simple!

GO BACK TO STATE MANDATED SEGREGATION! WHEN WHITES TOLD NEGROES THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT NEGROES IN THEIR STORES, NEGROES STARTED BUILDING THEIR OWN BUSINESSES!
That's the dumbest shit you ever wrote
Sounds like it should be on the cover of a damn book.

UTB: The Dumbest Shit I Ever Wrote.
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DID INTEGRATION REALLY HELP BLACK AMERICA?

“Certainly African Americans as a group has never had it so good,” writes “A State of Black America” editor Lee A. Daniels, in the book’s forward. If one were look back in black history, they would agree with his statement. Forced school segregation, Jim Crow laws, and being separate but equal ideas are no longer infesting America.

Today black America is, as it always was, substantially poor, working poor and working class, but its college-educated, white-collar middleclass has grown significantly. One would ask are these results of ending segregation? Has economical and family life of black people gotten better or worse over 40 years? Statistics-wise, one would say it’s gotten better. More black children are graduating from high school and going into college. More black businesses are growing every year. On the surface, race relations are at its best. On a whole, black America is at its best. Individually, from each single neighborhood to every city, black America is not at its best. Integration was fought for during the Civil Rights Movement. It was a simple idea for all people that was not thought out all the way through. If civil rights leaders would have been able to look in the future, certain decisions may have been changed. Integration was one of the ‘good turned bad idea’ that affected black America. It implied that black people couldn’t make it on their own-that they couldn’t really be human until they were integrated into white America.

The first Jim Crow law came around in 1815 by separating blacks and whites on trains, in depots, and wharves. Soon after, more laws banned blacks from white hotels, barbershops, restaurants, and theaters. In 1896, the Supreme Court upheld segregation in its separate but equal doctrine set forth in Plessy v. Ferguson. Blacks started to silently question this separate but equal. Blacks had schools but they were usually placed in old shacks and barns. The teachers of these schools were not completely educated. Most of them may have gotten an eighth grade education, which furthered the cycle of illiteracy. They had hospitals but they were usually too far away whereas the white hospital was closer. The Jim Crow laws belittled black Americans on day-to-day basis from where to walk to where to sit to what to answer to. On the other side of the wall, however, there were full black communities. They used their collective energies to build churches, social service organizations, and business organizations that were devoted to group progress. They ran their own schools that encouraged educational advancement and started their own colleges and universities. They built their own banks and filled them up with black dollars. Under segregation, black America did have to use words like role models because that was what everyone was in the black community. Black people supported black people.

By 1900, the color line had been drawn so well that many institutions-hotels, theaters, restaurants, railroad trains and depots, schools, parks, etc. –had established racial lines that could not be breached. Soon black America’s spirit was getting beaten down. It did not seem to matter whether or not one was living in the North or the South. The severity of lynchings and beatings were getting worse and there were not any practiced laws to protect them. The inspiration of integration started to grow with black America and white liberals. If the two worlds came together, eventually black America would be seen as equal Americans and things would change.

In 1954, Brown vs. Topeka case shook the nation. This case was supposed to change the look of racism and segregation, but by the end of 20th century, many public schools remained largely segregated. In fact, the results of the case did a different turn. Instead of giving black schools equal opportunities, the Brown vs. Topeka decision closed black schools, demoted black principals to teachers, reduced the number of black teachers altogether. The bus went one way for long hours requiring early risings and little black parental involvement. Now black students would not only have to prove themselves twice as much but also had to endure the constant taunting and harassment from the other students and sometimes the teacher. A clear cut example of this would be about the great Malcolm X. He not only was ridiculed everyday from his white peers but his teacher advised him to be a carpenter as opposed to a lawyer. Slowly but surely, the striving student feels lower. Integrating the school system began to place more on the child’s shoulders more than ever before.

During segregation, black America had black businesses. They employed black people, serviced black people, and brought money into the black community. These businesses did not have all the top equipment like the white businesses but it was growing. Black America soon saw the differences the two business worlds and decided that it was not right. “Since I worked for whitey, I should be able to eat and sleep where whitey eats and sleeps…” was said by the late Huey P. Newton, the co-leader of the Black Panther Party for Self Defense. Black America started to realize that their money should be able to be spent wherever they want to go. Black people were not satisfied and wanted a change. This change spawned the Civil Rights Movement. Black America had leaders such Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Medger Evers, and Malcolm X. All three began to preach about the race problems and how to fix them. Out of the three, Malcolm X, at one time, preached integration amongst the black people. He asked black America why would they want to sit next to the man who brutalized them. Why would black America want to send their children to a school that did not teach all of the history? Before his death, Malcolm X rethought his ideas. It wasn’t so much as black unity within each other as opposed to black supremacy. Malcolm X was assassinated after the laws were changed. Which idea would have beneficial? Now on the surface, the laws went from separate but equal to all men are created equal. Did that mean, however, that just because it was turned into a law, that it would be practiced? History has shown that it has not been practiced. The only case that affected black America and has been practiced by white America was the Dred Scott case, which stated that black people have no rights that white people are bound to respect.

Today black America makes up 34 percent of the population and make up nearly 46 percent of retailers and spenders. How, why it is that black America only spend three percent of their money with African American businesses. When integration came, it meant that those who could afford it and qualified were integrated into white society, while the rest stayed behind. Black people left black businesses and worked at white corporations. Instead of the majority of workers being black, it was now maybe just two or three and they usually were men. Today’s black America loves fast food but do not own any major fast food restaurants. Black America loves peanuts but do not own any peanut farms. Black America works for the majority of white businesses and take their money to white banks. Integration brought on the lack of support of black communities and black businesses.

Black America got the equal opportunities for education, for power, and for advancement. In the midst of planning a better life for black Americans, they began to lose themselves and their identity. America is better without the Jim Crow laws but with integration, it has broken down black America. Until black Americans build their own economic base by doing at least 35 percent of their business with one another, saving and investing their money in their own community, support historically black colleges and entrepreneurship within the black community, black America will stay in the same place.



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Nov 29 2012, 11:48 AM
DID INTEGRATION REALLY HELP BLACK AMERICA?

The answer is YES
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We African Americans/Blacks better off before segregation?



Posted by Navitta Nelson on July 5, 2011 at ?



During the 19th and early 20th century, says Wallace, “physicians owned medical schools. There were also pawn shops everywhere, brothels, jewelry stores, churches, restaurants and two movie theaters. It was a time when the entire state of Oklahoma has only two airports, yet six Blacks owned their own planes. It was a very fascinating community.”

“Just to show you how wealthy a lot of Black people were, there was a banker in the neighboring town who had a wife named California Taylor. Her father owned the largest cotton gin west of the Mississippi River. When California shopped, she would take a cruise to Paris to have her clothes made.” He adds.

As Wallace argues,”In 1910, our forefathers and mothers owned 13 million acres of land at the height of racism in this country...we had our act together.”

Black enterprise developed in segregated America because blacks were excluded from white shops and the two races were kept deliberately apart. Unlike today, white own business did not go out of their way to target black customers, even if they could. The black dollar was spent with black business. Today, in contrast it’s estimated, via the U.S Census, that 95% per cent of the black community’s wealth is spent with white owned business.

Today the few traditional large black owned businesses like haircare products are in the hands of white owned corporations. In the era of segregation a black owned business was likely to cater to every aspect of a black person’s needs. From newspapers to restaurants, to beauty salons, to undertakers, every kind of minority owned business existed in every town and city in America.

Greensboro’s East Market Street, Savannah’s West Broad Street, and Jacksonville’s Ashley Street are Florida examples of thriving black business districts that once anchored black communities across the segregated South.

Today, few traces of these bustling hubs of African American economic, political, and social activity remain. During the 1960s thousands of black-owned banks, restaurants, insurance companies, funeral homes, barbershops, theatres, and other businesses disappeared, victims of urban renewal and shifts in consumer activity encouraged by the dismantling of segregation.
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