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ABC News-----special on Black relationships
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Mrsincere
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June bug
Jul 8 2010, 01:01 AM
Jimmy Lee
Jul 7 2010, 10:47 PM
It's easy to see why none of those women on that panel are married
That's a good point Jacque Reid is a beautiful sister, so is she not married?
June Bug, you are correctamundo........Jacque Reid's external attributes are beautiful.

But as far as her overall character, relationship and marriage potential???.....does anybody really know if what really counts "under the hood" is just as beautiful?

I always notice in the media.....when women have troubles in life and especially trouble with men, they are always coddled and felt sorry for. Thats when you hear someone tell them......."you know, you are a beautiful girl/woman/young lady, and you deserve better than that"

Just because the female is beautiful externally, she deserves something for that?
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Mrsincere
Jul 10 2010, 04:36 AM
Knowledge
Jul 9 2010, 12:32 AM
When a woman get her mind made up it's like talking to a brick wall,
and the women on that panel already had their minds made up and
that's why they couldn't hear what those black men were saying
A lot of women cant listen to advice or wisdom from a man.......especially if they are egotistically challenged.

And when you have women like Sherri claiming she was already Wonder Woman , failing to listen to a man comes standard with that mindset.
"Oh what a tangled web we weave , when first we practice to deceive. MrSincere, I do so enjoy your comments you're so for real regardless of the topic matter. I got a kick out of the " naked facade comment. It's so true, never heard of the nylon helmet before but I howled. Keep rolling Mr. you're quite enlightening!
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Jul 10 2010, 11:06 AM
Mrsincere
Jul 10 2010, 04:36 AM
Knowledge
Jul 9 2010, 12:32 AM
When a woman get her mind made up it's like talking to a brick wall,
and the women on that panel already had their minds made up and
that's why they couldn't hear what those black men were saying
A lot of women cant listen to advice or wisdom from a man.......especially if they are egotistically challenged.

And when you have women like Sherri claiming she was already Wonder Woman , failing to listen to a man comes standard with that mindset.
"Oh what a tangled web we weave , when first we practice to deceive. MrSincere, I do so enjoy your comments you're so for real regardless of the topic matter. I got a kick out of the " naked facade comment. It's so true, never heard of the nylon helmet before but I howled. Keep rolling Mr. you're quite enlightening!
Thanks Memdear. I'm sure you see as I do that people are quite entertaining when we pay close attention to whats around us. Looking at Sherri, I couldnt help but wonder if she was sub-consciously trying her best to look like a white woman?

Of course white women dont have a monopoly on having straight hair, but damn Sherri what were you thinking when you chose that particular hair assembly??? LOL SMDH.

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Mrsincere I respect you because you have some well thought our responses, I respect that
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Miami
Jul 10 2010, 04:37 PM
Mrsincere I respect you because you have some well thought our responses, I respect that
Thanks for saying that Miami. I believe we all here have pieces to the puzzle. I'm accustomed to paying attention to details. Details that can easily be overlooked or not taken into consideration. Sometimes, I like to analyze details like the way a lawyer or a mathematician would handle a case or solve a problem.
Edited by Mrsincere, Jul 11 2010, 07:41 AM.
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Damn Right

I feel what the men on that panel is saying
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Apr 23 2010, 12:17 AM
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Apr 23 2010, 12:03 AM
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Apr 22 2010, 11:55 PM
Nat Turner
Apr 22 2010, 11:51 PM
What will it take to solve the divide between black men and black women, looking at those videos black men and black women are on different pages
Nat that's why I say lets disect this...........all the answers are there....we don't communicate and Steve indicated that we all have the wrong information about one another.....black men have the wrong information about black women and black women have the wrong information about black men...............



The screw up fairy/ devil is lurking ignore her.....
I love Steve Harvey he's a good brother, but I think he's been married 3 of 4 times. So it took
him a while to figure it out, he had to grow as a man and become older.


Yup...yup...I like him also....Hill Harper I love him also but I was very disappointed that he went outside the culture....If he love black so much and he is so concerned why did he not take a black woman? Just curious
Dont be disappointed.......It's possible Hill ran into too many Sherri Shepherd types or Jacque Reid types whose main concern is being cheated on? And perhaps the woman he got with didnt come with that "I'm wonder woman" "I have to be wonder woman to deal with black men", but at the same time, "I need a man to help me teach my 5 yr old boy how to pee etc". Perhaps the woman wasnt looking at what Hill was driving when he approached her, but was more focused on his character, potential and what he had to offer as a companion? Maybe Hill frowns on dealing with women who will reject a brother for not having a car, but later in life decide they need a man to help them raise their children?

It's very possible enough black men have experienced hundreds of thousands of black women who have operated with black men just like that on some level in the past, and to this day are completely clueless as to why life is paying them back , and why enough black men see "no potential" connecting with women that have or had that mindset. Just a thought!!!

Edited by Mrsincere, Jul 12 2010, 05:31 PM.
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Nirvana10

Nobody mentioned Jimi Izrael, the author of "The Denzel Principle".......who was on the panel and totally disrespected/shunned by the women on the panel (and women in the audience). They would audibily "boo" all comments he made and make counterpoints to all of his inputs.........the reason ? He wasn't rich or famous like the other panelist. Here was the guy who WROTE the book that sparked the conversation and ABC special; and he was minimized to defending himself to a crowd of women who as Sherry put it, "don't know him like that"........disgusting; every woman on that panel will be single......forever. Or they will marry a sucker/ goldigger.
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Jul 13 2010, 02:19 PM
Nobody mentioned Jimi Izrael, the author of "The Denzel Principle".......who was on the panel and totally disrespected/shunned by the women on the panel (and women in the audience). They would audibily "boo" all comments he made and make counterpoints to all of his inputs.........the reason ? He wasn't rich or famous like the other panelist. Here was the guy who WROTE the book that sparked the conversation and ABC special; and he was minimized to defending himself to a crowd of women who as Sherry put it, "don't know him like that"........disgusting; every woman on that panel will be single......forever. Or they will marry a sucker/ goldigger.
Is that the name of the other black guy that was on the panel? I was wondering who that guy was
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Jul 13 2010, 02:19 PM
Nobody mentioned Jimi Izrael, the author of "The Denzel Principle".......who was on the panel and totally disrespected/shunned by the women on the panel (and women in the audience). They would audibily "boo" all comments he made and make counterpoints to all of his inputs.........the reason ? He wasn't rich or famous like the other panelist. Here was the guy who WROTE the book that sparked the conversation and ABC special; and he was minimized to defending himself to a crowd of women who as Sherry put it, "don't know him like that"........disgusting; every woman on that panel will be single......forever. Or they will marry a sucker/ goldigger.
Nirvana.....I dont think Jimi was as prepared in his responses as he could have been. I recall in one of those videos he was trying to make a point by using an analogy. But the example he used , if taken on face value, sounded kinda ridiculous. When someone uses a ridiculous analogy to make a point you run the risk of your point being lost. The individuals listening will focus on the ridiculousness of the example, instead of trying to get the point being made. And thats exactly what the women on the panel and the audience did when they heard Jimi's analogy. Even when I heard it, I knew immediately the women would focus on the example he used and not the point he was trying to make.

One of the things I didnt like, was all of the men on the panel did the balancing act on a few occasions when they were talking about a particular issue with women. I dont think a man needs to claim "but men do it too" when he is talking about women issues. I find that to be a weak characteristic. I dont know why a lot of men are like that. If they are discussing women issues amongst each other, many men dont have a problem saying whatever is on their minds. But as soon as they have women in front of them, they try to adjust what they say as if they are afraid of getting a negative reaction.

I think this is a problem in enough men. Many men dont stand up to their women when there is reason to address some foolishness. It's also why many male judges administer rulings and laws to be lopsided against men. It's also why a black president will have no problem addressing men about accountability on Fathers Day, but would probably never talk to women about their accountability on Mother's Day. In this society many men are conditioned to fear women. Conditioned to avoid being honest with women.

It's easy to get to the point when you write a book. You dont have anybody ready to pounce on you the minute you say something they dont like. It's another thing to be strong enough to hold the same position and intensity of your message within a public forum. I have a feeling, Jimi's book probably has a lot great points in it. But in an open forum? He may need to work on his presentation much better in the future.

Thats what I liked about Shahrazad Ali who wrote the Blackman & Blackwomans Guide. She addressed men and women issues in public forums the same way she expressed her POV in her books. She didnt deviate or water down her message because she was afraid to offend a gender, panelists or the audience.
Edited by Mrsincere, Jul 13 2010, 10:55 PM.
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