| WHY DO BLACK MEN DATE UGLY WHITE CHICKS?; Dating | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 23 2010, 02:03 PM (8,843 Views) | |
| Mister J | Mar 26 2010, 03:52 PM Post #21 |
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Let me jump in here and [hopefully] expand the consciousness of the posters on this thread because the views I'm reading are way too limited, distorted, trifling or straight-up, dishonest. First of all, the poster, "Nirvana10", is THE most accurate, reasonable and articulate male commentator, currently on this board, in his views about the general, social/mental condition of Black American women with respect to their mind-set & behavior (overt & covert) towards Blk Amer men in their families and intimate relationships. "He" has already been noted and commended by a few regulars, here, for his courageous, & insightful posts and I, among others, hope he continues to contribute the "strong-man's" perspective. Heaven knows the public discourse need it. I'm also pleased that he, apparently, knows when to end a "discussion" with argumentative, unreasonable and rebellious people such as appear on this thread. I take issue with ANYONE (especially women) labeling the valid concerns, complaints, observations and opinions of Blk men about male/female relationship matters as "bitchin". 'Seems to me that it would actually take a "bitch" to say something like that. There are many, many more media venues and public forums for Blk women to air their views and "issues" about Blk men. And some of them have had devastating effect ("Waiting to Exhale, Color Purple, Women of Brewsters Place", ect.)... But when AA men found an uncensored venue (the 'net) to finally give HIS side of the story... the women (and a few "men") cry foul, say it's only his INDIVIDUAL problem, not a GENERAL problem, say he's unjustly bashing B/W or try to insult him into silence by indirectly calling him a "bitch". This is an example (among many) of the self-righteous, arrogant and rebellious mind-set of American Blk women (generally speaking) and the feminized "men" they've produced. This very board is obviously run by one or more males who decided to take his "issues" with AA women public, in a forum he could control so as not to be shunned, ignored, shouted-down, censored or deleted. And even though it is obvious that multiple screen-names are used by one person, that fact still does not invalidate or dismiss the subject and substance of his complaints. Perhaps I'll start a thread to further break the matter down in more vivid detail. Look for it. |
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| reddgirl64 | Mar 26 2010, 04:33 PM Post #22 |
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Stop Bitching, give solutions, suggestions, then we will listen!!!!! Until then, stop bitching! Worse than a woman on the rag! |
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| Mister J | Mar 26 2010, 05:03 PM Post #23 |
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Now, to address the topic of this thread... Some Blk men actually DO date ( i.e., screw) 'ugly', messed-up looking 'white' women and the cause of that is quite baffling to me because one would think that it is enough to over-come social/racial diifferences then to deal with unattractiveness, as well. So I have to conclude that the type, behavior or appearance of a man's woman has much to do with the man himself. In other words, he can't be far away from the same league. Or as one poster said, raggedy, "trailer-park Becky hooks-up w/ ghetto Tyronne." On the flip side, I also see some busted-looking Blk men w/ "fine & sexy" white females and, judging from his appearance, it aint because he's "handling paper". So go figure. Each of the few (about five) white women I've taken to bed have been attractive enough for me to be unintentionally seen with and not be embarrassed about her looks or behavior. Then again, I plain-n-simply try to avoid sexing a woman of ANY 'flavor' unless she really turn me on or there is a substantial monetary/material incentive involved. I'll just flirt, tease or B.S. around, but not actually try to stick my 'thang' in her. And I'm pretty satisfied w/ my ablity to get one of the two factors I seek (i.e., business or pleasure). Another way to frame the question is to ask "what is it about an 'ugly', fat white chick that takes the time, attention or resources [of a Blk man] away from an 'ugly', fat Blk chick?". I mean, think about it... shouldn't the 'ugly', fat Blk chick have the home-field advantage? Edited by Mister J, Mar 26 2010, 05:22 PM.
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| reddgirl64 | Mar 26 2010, 05:41 PM Post #24 |
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Lets do this woman to man, no beating around the bush. I'm a open minded woman, if you want to bring some knowledge or solutions to the board, then lets hear it. However, to you, and you only, 1) I take issue with ANYONE (especially women) labeling the valid concerns, complaints, observations and opinions of Blk men about male/female relationship matters as "bitchin". 'Seems to me that it would actually take a "bitch" to say something like that Why don't you kindly point out his VALID opines, telling me I should think because Lynch said something, its true? You can't possibly be serious. I don't want to hear about what some women have done, everyone has gone through strife in their lives, its how you deal with it that makes you stronger and wiser. As AA's, we could be victims all day long, however, at some point, you have to stop complaining, and find solutions. Sick and tired of hearing about why this woman wants my money, how much it costs to take someone out, give me break! My brother says, "its the costs of doing business". If this brother needs you to "get his back", then then I would say, go help him find that creed for me! 2) There are many, many more media venues and public forums for Blk women to air their views and "issues" about Blk men. And some of them have had devastating effect ("Waiting to Exhale, Color Purple, Women of Brewsters Place", ect.)... But when AA men found an uncensored venue (the 'net) to finally give HIS side of the story... the women (and a few "men") cry foul, say it's only his INDIVIDUAL problem, not a GENERAL problem, say he's unjustly bashing B/W or try to insult him into silence by indirectly calling him a "bitch". This is an example (among many) of the self-righteous, arrogant and rebellious mind-set of American Blk women (generally speaking) and the feminized "men" they've produced. Go ahead, let's hear your side. To me, this is why there's a gulf between us. Movies are just that, movies. Deal with life, what life gives you, the lessons you learn from it. I don't give a rats ass about movies, I can give you the ending to most movies made. Good guy, bad guy, good guy wins and gets the girl in the end, see simple. Anyone who lives their life thru a movie, wants to quote a song, think that any artist is speaking for him/her, is hidding from reality. I don't like the "victim mentally", its makes you weak, feabile, and easy to be "feminized". How can a woman stop your voice from being heard, how can a woman censor you, how can a woman take your manhood, that is, unless you give it to her. Now, give me your solutions to these issues: drugs in the neighborhood, mentoring young AA boys, black males dropping out of school, crime (rape,domestic violence, robberies), proper nutrition and diet, our legal system, jobs, and any more you want to address. You see, if you read any of my posts, I don't like to engage in bickering with my brothers and sisters, (Elle, is another story), this is a forum for discussing and solving our differences, but it seems that you want to engage in bitch sessions, then go ahead, do it with Nirvana, I would rather discuss more serious matters. I really don't want to hear about who you date, or why you date them, how they treated you afterwards, you picked them, you deal with them! Now if your want to be the guy who wants to "educate" us, we'll give you a shot also, come with common sense, tho, remember, no bitching! BTW - Why are you coming to the defense of a man? |
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| Nirvana10 | Mar 26 2010, 07:02 PM Post #25 |
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Thanks Mr. J. I respect your comments as well. Especially when you gave guidance on the fact that strong black men don't bitch. I mean, what an oxymoron. Many of these sisters have not been with educated, strong black men and wouldn't understand how to fall under the leadership of one if they wanted to. Unfortunately, many of these sisters respect the word of a 'Thug' or 'R&B' singer more than that of an "Aware-Educated Blue or White Collared Brother". The majority of black women quote the demeaning words of these brothers and see strenght in someone who probably didn't finish High School. Real black men speak up and we have something enlightening to bring to the table. You should create a post.................. |
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| Nirvana10 | Mar 26 2010, 07:18 PM Post #26 |
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We want solutions; right Redd? The topic seems to be Jungle Fever. Ok - Tell all AA females that you know, "when you see a brother with a white girl (ugly or not), do not roll your eyes, suck your teeth, make loud negative remarks or hold silent disdain for the brother. Nine times out of ten he's not even thinking about you." That would greatly ease tension between the black sexes; when a brother is out on the town with his female Anglo partner. Conversely, do you have a solution from the AA female perspective that should be relayed to brothers who publicly date white women? Edited by Nirvana10, Mar 26 2010, 07:20 PM.
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| reddgirl64 | Mar 26 2010, 07:52 PM Post #27 |
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You don't seem to get the point, can you point out where I've stated that dating whites, latinos or any other race is wrong? I have a white bro in law, read some of my responses, please. One more time, you can date whomever you want, just stop trying to blame the "other woman" for why you are doing it. Putting down another, just to make it right, is for all the wrong reasons. You can date a tree, but don't blame the flowers, because you want to date trees! All you are talking about is, "I date these woman because of those women". Jungle fever is for those who allow themselves to get infected. I'm a grown woman, I make the best choices for me, by me! I have five brothers, four married to sisters, the other, well let's just say, he enjoys himself. I have four sisters, two are married to white men, the other two to AA men. My two sisters that are married to white men are more comfortable with white men, to them, not as violent as black men, take care of their familes better than black men, more gentle than black men, more caring than black men, now, should I adopt that as the gospel regarding black men, or is it just my sisters comfort zone? Question for you, why the need to degrade? What do you gain, because you get something from doing it, other than that, you wouldn't do it! Sir, let me point out to you, the trend is more AA women dating white and latino males. |
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| Mister J | Mar 26 2010, 07:53 PM Post #28 |
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@ "reddgirl64": Look, whoever you are, the first thing you should know and accept is that the man who type these words is cut from a 'different cloth" than the list of stereotypical AA men that comes to mind for Amer Blk women. MY "creed" (to borrow your word) has been shaped way 'outside the box' of your stated sentiments. So much so that I am not given to justifying my position(s) to you, personally. I try to establish in my posts a credible argument for a REASONABLE person to consider. And that's "reasonble" in the two broadest sense of the word. {i.e., a person who has both the CAPACITY to reason and who also tries to be FAIR-MINDED} Get it? - "reasonable". Therefore, I can't indulge your CIRCULAR "arguments" because in doing so, I actually would be guilty of "bitchin'". Just as you are doing. Let it suffice it to say that, apparently, you & I are on opposite frequencies much like the 'right-wing', (read: white supremacist) 'conservatives' vs. those who support our President. No matter how much debate and dialogue takes place, they (the white, 'right-wing') wil still oppose him. Why? Because he is, plain-n-simply, not the guy they prefer. That analogy applies to a vast segment of Amer Blk women in their internalized sentiment towards AA men, especially those who asserts personal authority and don't stand for female nonsense and defiance. And your question, "why are you coming to the defense of a man?" is meant, by implication, to call my sexual-orientation into question. However, it really shows that, despite your knack for cackling in all directions, you are not emotionally ready to enhance the discussion of this topic, or any of the other laundry-list of "issues" you mentioned. So I recommend you just reflect well on my posts and try to hold your loose tongue-tantrums until you learn to be "reasonable". |
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| reddgirl64 | Mar 26 2010, 08:14 PM Post #29 |
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Does that mean you don't have solutions? I would suggest you try me. I'm still waiting. |
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| Glenn D. | Mar 28 2010, 12:04 PM Post #30 |
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Why do Black men date ugly white chicks?... Probably for the same reason they date ugly black chicks... or ugly chicks of any persuasion. Who are any of us to judge what another man likes. As long as a man is happy with his choice... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people seem to be confused. Refer to some women as ugly, and then complain when so-called beautifull women show themselves off. Grow up, get laid, get a life... |
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