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Can you honestly say Obama is different from Bush?; And deserves re-election?
Topic Started: Feb 18 2010, 06:57 PM (969 Views)
Kingzkwan



I'm in full disagreement with the majority of the Black American community especially when it comes to Barrack Obama. I'm not an Uncle Tom and I'm probably more radical than most of Nation of Islam followers. My view about Obama is that he's not of the same ethnicity as African Americans whom descend from American Slavery. And because of the one drop rule this man with a white mother is considered Black America without even a day spent walking in the shoes of Black Americans. I think he's just a politician and a very crafty person whom used a Black mega church to get elected state senator then U.S senator and his false sense of Blackness to become president. Obama has become dangerous symbolism that whites have changed their harsh unjust views of Black Americans. He has also symbolized the so-called modern Black politician whom is more an American than a member of the Black community meaning that if it's in America's interests then he will side with America spiting Black American interests.

Well enough of that let's get to the results of Barrack's so-called, "CHANGE".

1. Obama said the war was wrongly waged and it was all a lie. He said he was pull troops from Iraq but he was pressured into taking a position that as president he would find out ground conditions first. Well as President Barrack Obama not only didn't withdraw troops but solidified War Mongering argument by continuing Gates as the Defense Secretary and adding more troops to Afghanistan so now we have two full wars going!

2. Obama spoke of the dwindling middle class and how he was going to tax the rich. Well Bush only gave two stimulus packages while Obama gave three and Obama knew the bonuses would be paid and lied and said he didn't know. Lol. But it's not funny when a man outright lies.

3. All the talk Obama did to make Rev. Wright seem like a sore from the past yet Obama avoided the International Race Conference. That to me speaks volumes about this man's stance on race which is a huge problem worldwide. If Obama was so good on race and so ahead of everyone else why didn't he show up to make his views known so the world could advance. But he did what all the other previous presidents did which was boycott and hide from responsibility to the world.

4. The economy has gotten worse under Obama because he's still viewed as a Black president. And no matter what Obama says about Americans being decent people we know that Americans are selfish deep down and very little of them want to help their fellow man who is out of work. And just like when Black mayors have taken over major cities for the first time they had their administrations underminded by huge white businesses whom pulled away their business and caused jobs to vanish and thus make the mayor look incompetent. This is no different with Barrack Obama whom many known crazies like Rush Limbaugh have revealed the secret plan to see Obama fail even if it hurts the country. I knew this would happen as the same thing happened in South Africa with President Nelson Mandela this one thriving economy suffered under his rule due to this spoiler thinking amongst White businessmen.

5. Barrack Obama is terrible with handling race relations and has on more the one occasion put his foot in his mouth. One time with scholar Gates his long time friend whom President Obama foolishly spoke on this thinking it would be off record. Then Obama spoke onesided because not only did the police foil this but also Gates was simply foolish for not cooperating with the police even though no one would think an old man with a cane a limp would be breaking in a home and then wait for the cops to show up to give them a cock story. Obama caused alot of problems with is onesided statement that to me shows his inexperience even when dealing with race relations.

I can go on and on but if we have another 4 years of this man in office I'm afraid this country will fall into civil war. The main reason is that White America hasn't truly changed it's harsh unjust views of Blacks. The belief we are all incompetent and immoral is the prime reason Obama will get the blame for Bush's mess. Yet how can we clear Obama when Obama has made even more of the mess Bush made. It's not like Obama came in and did an 360 which is what should have been done on almost everything including the war and the economy. Instead Obama has almost walked in locked step with everything Bush did and isn't that what Obama accused MCcain of? A John Mccain term equals 4 more years of Bush! Now an Obama term is now 4 more years of Bush!
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All presidents are puppets, there is a hidden hands behind the scene that's calling the shots. The American people don't even know about this

The Rothschild Family, The Bilderberg Group, and other powerful Jewish families control the president of the united states

1. Obama was unkown, and in 4 years he became the president

2. Somebody behind the scene has some big plans for him

3. It would be hard for an unknown White man to become the president in 4 years


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Kingzkwan
Feb 18 2010, 06:57 PM

I'm in full disagreement with the majority of the Black American community especially when it comes to Barrack Obama. I'm not an Uncle Tom and I'm probably more radical than most of Nation of Islam followers. My view about Obama is that he's not of the same ethnicity as African Americans whom descend from American Slavery. And because of the one drop rule this man with a white mother is considered Black America without even a day spent walking in the shoes of Black Americans. I think he's just a politician and a very crafty person whom used a Black mega church to get elected state senator then U.S senator and his false sense of Blackness to become president. Obama has become dangerous symbolism that whites have changed their harsh unjust views of Black Americans. He has also symbolized the so-called modern Black politician whom is more an American than a member of the Black community meaning that if it's in America's interests then he will side with America spiting Black American interests.

Well enough of that let's get to the results of Barrack's so-called, "CHANGE".

1. Obama said the war was wrongly waged and it was all a lie. He said he was pull troops from Iraq but he was pressured into taking a position that as president he would find out ground conditions first. Well as President Barrack Obama not only didn't withdraw troops but solidified War Mongering argument by continuing Gates as the Defense Secretary and adding more troops to Afghanistan so now we have two full wars going!

2. Obama spoke of the dwindling middle class and how he was going to tax the rich. Well Bush only gave two stimulus packages while Obama gave three and Obama knew the bonuses would be paid and lied and said he didn't know. Lol. But it's not funny when a man outright lies.

3. All the talk Obama did to make Rev. Wright seem like a sore from the past yet Obama avoided the International Race Conference. That to me speaks volumes about this man's stance on race which is a huge problem worldwide. If Obama was so good on race and so ahead of everyone else why didn't he show up to make his views known so the world could advance. But he did what all the other previous presidents did which was boycott and hide from responsibility to the world.

4. The economy has gotten worse under Obama because he's still viewed as a Black president. And no matter what Obama says about Americans being decent people we know that Americans are selfish deep down and very little of them want to help their fellow man who is out of work. And just like when Black mayors have taken over major cities for the first time they had their administrations underminded by huge white businesses whom pulled away their business and caused jobs to vanish and thus make the mayor look incompetent. This is no different with Barrack Obama whom many known crazies like Rush Limbaugh have revealed the secret plan to see Obama fail even if it hurts the country. I knew this would happen as the same thing happened in South Africa with President Nelson Mandela this one thriving economy suffered under his rule due to this spoiler thinking amongst White businessmen.

5. Barrack Obama is terrible with handling race relations and has on more the one occasion put his foot in his mouth. One time with scholar Gates his long time friend whom President Obama foolishly spoke on this thinking it would be off record. Then Obama spoke onesided because not only did the police foil this but also Gates was simply foolish for not cooperating with the police even though no one would think an old man with a cane a limp would be breaking in a home and then wait for the cops to show up to give them a cock story. Obama caused alot of problems with is onesided statement that to me shows his inexperience even when dealing with race relations.

I can go on and on but if we have another 4 years of this man in office I'm afraid this country will fall into civil war. The main reason is that White America hasn't truly changed it's harsh unjust views of Blacks. The belief we are all incompetent and immoral is the prime reason Obama will get the blame for Bush's mess. Yet how can we clear Obama when Obama has made even more of the mess Bush made. It's not like Obama came in and did an 360 which is what should have been done on almost everything including the war and the economy. Instead Obama has almost walked in locked step with everything Bush did and isn't that what Obama accused MCcain of? A John Mccain term equals 4 more years of Bush! Now an Obama term is now 4 more years of Bush!
Beautifully stated, Kingzkwan. I can't argue with your logic. But my thinking is that Obama's no different than any other black man or woman who's been taken for granted by the Democratic Party for so many years. We all know who he is, where he's from and that his mama's white. The question is should that bit of difference give cause to write off decades of struggle because the man lacks the full black experience? Does anyone really know how many African Americans are true descendants of slavery and should it really matter or serve as a badge of honor, a right of passage?
With all due respect, Kingzkwan, I'm certain such a detail matters little to the white man for he has only only one agenda. And that is to prove the black man unfit to lead the only country he's ever known, fought and died for. To derail and destroy our one and only means to build on the notion that not all blacks are bumbling fools, self haters, entertainers and athletes that run, play and kill their own but raise not a finger to defend a noble dream. Not even their own gawd damned President!
Some idiot on another site posted something titled ''Obama is failing Black People''. It should have been''Black America is failing ourselves and our President in buying into decades of self imposed ignorance, fear and defeat.
So we have another civil war. Is the mere mention of such suppose to make us run and cower as it happend when the KKK marched. I don't think so.
''They say they want their country back''. I say stand firm and make them fight for every inch of it! I know Obama's a weak motherfukker but as every President before him, he is as weak or as great as the people he leads and like it or not, he represents us and we represent him!
Edited by Jan, Feb 19 2010, 02:03 AM.
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When Obama leave office will the condition of Black people be any better, or is this just a feel good moment for Black people
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Nat Turner
Feb 18 2010, 10:55 PM
When Obama leave office will the condition of Black people be any better, or is this just a feel good moment for Black people
It's a feel good moment for Blacks and those in power set Obama up as a symbolic victory or accomplishment for Black America. One such deed that comes with no substance and just another ploy to manipulate Black America to take part in White Americas sins of world wide aggression.
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Kingzkwan
Feb 21 2010, 04:26 PM
Nat Turner
Feb 18 2010, 10:55 PM
When Obama leave office will the condition of Black people be any better, or is this just a feel good moment for Black people
It's a feel good moment for Blacks and those in power set Obama up as a symbolic victory or accomplishment for Black America. One such deed that comes with no substance and just another ploy to manipulate Black America to take part in White Americas sins of world wide aggression.
This might be the best trick that White people ever pulled on Black people. A lot of Black people
think that the struggle is over now that America has a Black person in the White house.
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Nat Turner
Feb 18 2010, 10:55 PM
When Obama leave office will the condition of Black people be any better, or is this just a feel good moment for Black people
It's not Obama's job to make a black person better. That's a individual responsibility. The President has a country to run, not act like the president of the NAACP. I guess most of you would be happier if we had a Clarence Thomas.
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Rick1
Feb 22 2010, 09:27 AM
Nat Turner
Feb 18 2010, 10:55 PM
When Obama leave office will the condition of Black people be any better, or is this just a feel good moment for Black people
It's not Obama's job to make a black person better. That's a individual responsibility. The President has a country to run, not act like the president of the NAACP. I guess most of you would be happier if we had a Clarence Thomas.
You said that it's not Obama's job to make Black people better, well it's not Black people job
to go out to the polls and vote for him.
Edited by Nat Turner, Feb 22 2010, 01:56 PM.
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Nat Turner
Feb 22 2010, 03:53 AM
Kingzkwan
Feb 21 2010, 04:26 PM
Nat Turner
Feb 18 2010, 10:55 PM
When Obama leave office will the condition of Black people be any better, or is this just a feel good moment for Black people
It's a feel good moment for Blacks and those in power set Obama up as a symbolic victory or accomplishment for Black America. One such deed that comes with no substance and just another ploy to manipulate Black America to take part in White Americas sins of world wide aggression.
This might be the best trick that White people ever pulled on Black people. A lot of Black people
think that the struggle is over now that America has a Black person in the White house.


We live in very selfish times my brother. Most Americans aren't decent they still back while their government wars worldwide for our comfortable lifestyes. We don't give nor do when speak to our neighbors anymore. Different communities fight with each other over issues about resources when at the root is just racism.

Obama won on the guise he was Black American but he's far from being a true honorable Black American. He sold himself as an American in the end and he sold out. But the Black masses are always in disarray and confusion and we are lead by pigmie brain leaders some of them who are so old they just have retired long ago. And when we do get young fresh new Black leadership they are handpicked by the old so there's never even any fresh air in Black politics or growing character.
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I'm not getting it. For the past 200 yrs all we have had was white men screwing up the country and you guys are ragging on the only black man that has ever had the job and that's only been for a yr. Obama won the job because he was the better politician. Quit expecting shit and get your ass out there and make some dough.
Edited by Rick1, Feb 22 2010, 03:18 PM.
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