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olmec1
Jan 23 2010, 04:38 PM
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Jan 23 2010, 04:32 PM
You all never praise Obama's white mother, if his mother was black you all would
praise her and talk about how great she is.
I mean no disrespect to you at all. I am still trying to communicate with you.
However, I really question who you really are. Most of my White friends are very analytical, they would research my statements and post their findings. Why are you dodging the questions by changing the topic.

Please tell me what white women have produced equivalent to the privilege treatment they have received over the last 50 years? Which white women have personally changed the lives of all Americans and people around the world in the last 50 years? Please name any scientist, engineers, politicians or leaders that have touched all Americans and changed our lives.


White women have had the edge in health care, protection, education, media brand, politics and more.

1.White women have had the best health care in the world over the last 50 years. She had access to the best doctors when other women where using home remedies and back rooms. She had health insurance before most Americans knew what it was.
2.My sisters have had access to the best schools, colleges and universities over the last 50 years. 50% of all Law students are women, most of whom are white women. Where is the white woman equivalent to Johnny Cochran or Alan Dershowitz?
3.She has been the most protected American, no major complaints from her about police brutality, prisons or being stopped while being a white woman. She has had private armies patrol her neighborhoods. She enjoyed burglar alarms before most minority women were even allowed to get bank loans to buy homes in crime ridden areas.
4.She has been advertised more than any other female or group in the world. World wide her brand is promoted via TV, magazines, newspapers, movies and the Internet. Billions are spent to project her image as beautiful, petite (105 pounds), blonde, polite, loving, sexy, wild, and intelligent; every thing any man could possibly want. Usually she is the damsel in distress in any worth while movie; she is associated with big beautiful houses, condos, luxury cars and Yachts. She can have five kids and be as slim as the youngest daughter. Billions of dollars are spent a year to project the white woman’s brand. No other women come close to the ad budgets that white blonde women get for free, even though only 5% of Americas blondes are real blondes. 15 billion dollars a year is spent by brunettes to make sure they cash in on the non stop media blitz. Is there any wonder why many men that have been bombarded by this marketing non stop media blitz, since they were five years old, would think that having a blonde will make them complete?
5.In the business world white women have risen to become CEO’s of fortune 100 companies. Carly Fiorina was the CEO of HP; she may have allowed an alpha white male to cause her to resign. Now she wants to get a cushy job replacing Barber Boxer or Feinstein as a senator. Can you imagine any one of these three women going up against the alpha males of the Republican Party? Then there is Meg Whitman, who runs around acting like she was the founder of EBay when we all know that an Iranian was the founder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Omidyar Meg is also doing the powerful white business woman move, which is to run from the alpha males in the high powered business world and get a political office.
6.In politics white women have a few stars. Hillary Clinton our secretary of state has not accomplished anything but showing us that she can play a good game of waiting out Obama and be ready to run for the presidency if necessary. Thus she takes no risk while the press plays the game with her by not scrutinizing her record. You have Claire McCaskill a brilliant politician that helped Obama win and she generally holds her own against the alpha Republican males. The only problem with her is that she could not even pull her own state for Obama.

After 50 years of access to real money, power and contacts in the political world what has the white woman really produced? She has even had the luxury of being married to presidents, generals and CEO’s of fortune 500 companies.

In every other field of endeavor what have they done with this massive investment, exposure and non stop media blitz? No other woman or person comes close to the funding and privilege treatment that she has had. Should we not expect more from the Americans that received more from the system, free in many cases?

I just want to know facts about what my white sisters have done with their blessings. Forget the comparisons there aren't any.


Health care
http://www.kff.org/minorityhealth/upload/7886ES.pdf
http://www.kff.org/minorityhealth/7886.cfm

Education
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d01/tables/PDF/table384.pdf
Women accounted for 57 percent of the bachelor's degrees and 62 percent of all associate's degrees awarded in the 2006-07 academic year.


guess you're not going to get a fact based argument from him anytime soon.
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bastonecannella
Jan 23 2010, 05:07 PM
olmec1
Jan 23 2010, 04:38 PM
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Jan 23 2010, 04:32 PM
You all never praise Obama's white mother, if his mother was black you all would
praise her and talk about how great she is.
I mean no disrespect to you at all. I am still trying to communicate with you.
However, I really question who you really are. Most of my White friends are very analytical, they would research my statements and post their findings. Why are you dodging the questions by changing the topic.

Please tell me what white women have produced equivalent to the privilege treatment they have received over the last 50 years? Which white women have personally changed the lives of all Americans and people around the world in the last 50 years? Please name any scientist, engineers, politicians or leaders that have touched all Americans and changed our lives.


White women have had the edge in health care, protection, education, media brand, politics and more.

1.White women have had the best health care in the world over the last 50 years. She had access to the best doctors when other women where using home remedies and back rooms. She had health insurance before most Americans knew what it was.
2.My sisters have had access to the best schools, colleges and universities over the last 50 years. 50% of all Law students are women, most of whom are white women. Where is the white woman equivalent to Johnny Cochran or Alan Dershowitz?
3.She has been the most protected American, no major complaints from her about police brutality, prisons or being stopped while being a white woman. She has had private armies patrol her neighborhoods. She enjoyed burglar alarms before most minority women were even allowed to get bank loans to buy homes in crime ridden areas.
4.She has been advertised more than any other female or group in the world. World wide her brand is promoted via TV, magazines, newspapers, movies and the Internet. Billions are spent to project her image as beautiful, petite (105 pounds), blonde, polite, loving, sexy, wild, and intelligent; every thing any man could possibly want. Usually she is the damsel in distress in any worth while movie; she is associated with big beautiful houses, condos, luxury cars and Yachts. She can have five kids and be as slim as the youngest daughter. Billions of dollars are spent a year to project the white woman’s brand. No other women come close to the ad budgets that white blonde women get for free, even though only 5% of Americas blondes are real blondes. 15 billion dollars a year is spent by brunettes to make sure they cash in on the non stop media blitz. Is there any wonder why many men that have been bombarded by this marketing non stop media blitz, since they were five years old, would think that having a blonde will make them complete?
5.In the business world white women have risen to become CEO’s of fortune 100 companies. Carly Fiorina was the CEO of HP; she may have allowed an alpha white male to cause her to resign. Now she wants to get a cushy job replacing Barber Boxer or Feinstein as a senator. Can you imagine any one of these three women going up against the alpha males of the Republican Party? Then there is Meg Whitman, who runs around acting like she was the founder of EBay when we all know that an Iranian was the founder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Omidyar Meg is also doing the powerful white business woman move, which is to run from the alpha males in the high powered business world and get a political office.
6.In politics white women have a few stars. Hillary Clinton our secretary of state has not accomplished anything but showing us that she can play a good game of waiting out Obama and be ready to run for the presidency if necessary. Thus she takes no risk while the press plays the game with her by not scrutinizing her record. You have Claire McCaskill a brilliant politician that helped Obama win and she generally holds her own against the alpha Republican males. The only problem with her is that she could not even pull her own state for Obama.

After 50 years of access to real money, power and contacts in the political world what has the white woman really produced? She has even had the luxury of being married to presidents, generals and CEO’s of fortune 500 companies.

In every other field of endeavor what have they done with this massive investment, exposure and non stop media blitz? No other woman or person comes close to the funding and privilege treatment that she has had. Should we not expect more from the Americans that received more from the system, free in many cases?

I just want to know facts about what my white sisters have done with their blessings. Forget the comparisons there aren't any.


Health care
http://www.kff.org/minorityhealth/upload/7886ES.pdf
http://www.kff.org/minorityhealth/7886.cfm

Education
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d01/tables/PDF/table384.pdf
Women accounted for 57 percent of the bachelor's degrees and 62 percent of all associate's degrees awarded in the 2006-07 academic year.


guess you're not going to get a fact based argument from him anytime soon.
I expect to get the same input as this post.

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In a previous post, I stated the following:

"I would argue that this is because all they've had to do is exist. Think about it. White men had to earn their hand in marriage and so had to make sure they had amassed some wealth in order to be considered worthy. Black men and women were slaves whose families were torn apart and sold. Black men used to hung because white men were "defending" their women. Meanwhile black women were raped repeatedly and no one could defend them. Black women have had to work to provide for the household as well as their men did if they were around and in addition black women had to cook, clean and sew. So all other segments of the population had to adapt to rough conditions and change, except for white women. So now as a result, u have a segment of the population that is so used to being provided for that now. But now times have changed and they've got some serious catching up to do."

I'd like to add to that. Black women have had to also be physically strong. Now I think of it, maybe that's why we're always described as strong as well as other reasons. Even until today. How many black women have to strap their children to their chests to get back and forth/do work and fold, unfold and lift strollers all the time. Additionally, a lot of our mothers had to do physically demanding jobs and grandmothers backbreaking housework in and out of the household as well as taking in laundry. This is while white women have had housekeepers, nannies/au pairs and cooks to do the heavy lifting for them.
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bastonecannella
Jan 23 2010, 05:57 PM
In a previous post, I stated the following:

"I would argue that this is because all they've had to do is exist. Think about it. White men had to earn their hand in marriage and so had to make sure they had amassed some wealth in order to be considered worthy. Black men and women were slaves whose families were torn apart and sold. Black men used to hung because white men were "defending" their women. Meanwhile black women were raped repeatedly and no one could defend them. Black women have had to work to provide for the household as well as their men did if they were around and in addition black women had to cook, clean and sew. So all other segments of the population had to adapt to rough conditions and change, except for white women. So now as a result, u have a segment of the population that is so used to being provided for that now. But now times have changed and they've got some serious catching up to do."

I'd like to add to that. Black women have had to also be physically strong. Now I think of it, maybe that's why we're always described as strong as well as other reasons. Even until today. How many black women have to strap their children to their chests to get back and forth/do work and fold, unfold and lift strollers all the time. Additionally, a lot of our mothers had to do physically demanding jobs and grandmothers backbreaking housework in and out of the household as well as taking in laundry. This is while white women have had housekeepers, nannies/au pairs and cooks to do the heavy lifting for them.
Very interesting.

Do you find people are reluctant to talk about white women in any critical way?
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"Please name any scientist, engineers, politicians or leaders that have touched all Americans and changed our lives."


Sandra Day O'Connor- first woman justice of the US Supreme Court
Joyce Myer- Christian author/speaker/television & radio personality
Mary Kay Ash- businesses woman, founded Mary Kay cosmetics
Joyce Brothers- psychologist and advice collumnist
Grace Murray Hopper- US military leader, mathematician, educator
Amelia Earhart- aviation pioneer
Pat Head Summitt- winningest coach in NCAA basketball history (men or women)
Sally Ride- first American woman in space
Dian Fossey- zoologist, wrote book "Gorillas in the Mist"
Barbara McClintock- One of the world's most distinguished Cytogeneticists
Janet Reno- U.S. Attorney General
Madeleine Albright- U.S. Secretary of State
Eileen Collins- first woman to command a space shuttle mission
Nancy Pelosi- first woman speaker of House of Representatives
Drew Gilpin Faust- Harvard University President
Sarah Palin- first woman to run as Vice President on Republican ticket
Bella Abzug- member of US House of Rep., lawyer, writer
Shelly Lazarus- Chairman of one of biggest ad agencies in the world
Anne Mulcahy- Chairman & former CEO of Xerox
Meg Whitman- CEO & president of ebay
Irene Rosenfeld- CEO of Kraft Foods
Brenda Barnes- CEO & Chairman of Sara Lee
Judy McGrath- CEO of Viacom
Anne Sweeney- President of Disney-ABC Television group
Ann More- Chairman & Ceo of Time, Inc
Susan Decker- CFO of Yahoo
Susan Desmond-Hellman- President of Genetech
Kay Krill- President & CEO of Ann Taylor
Shona Brown- SVP, Business Operations of Google
Beth Comstock- President NBC Universal Digital Media & Market Dvlpmt General Electric
Carol Bartz- Chairman, CEO, President of Autodesk
Kathy Cassidy- Treasurer of General Electric
Senator Barbara Boxer
Senator Olympia Snowe
Senator Lisa Murkowski
Senator Blanche Lincoln
Senator Dianne Feinstein
Senator Mary Landrieu
Senator Susan Collins
Senator Barbara Mikulski
Senator Debbie Stabenow
Senator Amy Klobuchar
Senator Claire McCaskill
Senator Jeanne Shaheen
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
Senator Kay Hagan
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
Senator Patty Murray
Senator Maria Cantwell
Governor Linda Lingle
Governor Jennifer Granholm
Governor Jodi Rell
Governor Bev Perdue
Governor Jan Brewer
etc. etc. etc.
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Elle
Jan 23 2010, 07:25 PM
"Please name any scientist, engineers, politicians or leaders that have touched all Americans and changed our lives."


Sandra Day O'Connor- first woman justice of the US Supreme Court
Joyce Myer- Christian author/speaker/television & radio personality
Mary Kay Ash- businesses woman, founded Mary Kay cosmetics
Joyce Brothers- psychologist and advice collumnist
Grace Murray Hopper- US military leader, mathematician, educator
Amelia Earhart- aviation pioneer
Pat Head Summitt- winningest coach in NCAA basketball history (men or women)
Sally Ride- first American woman in space
Dian Fossey- zoologist, wrote book "Gorillas in the Mist"
Barbara McClintock- One of the world's most distinguished Cytogeneticists
Janet Reno- U.S. Attorney General
Madeleine Albright- U.S. Secretary of State
Eileen Collins- first woman to command a space shuttle mission
Nancy Pelosi- first woman speaker of House of Representatives
Drew Gilpin Faust- Harvard University President
Sarah Palin- first woman to run as Vice President on Republican ticket
Bella Abzug- member of US House of Rep., lawyer, writer
Shelly Lazarus- Chairman of one of biggest ad agencies in the world
Anne Mulcahy- Chairman & former CEO of Xerox
Meg Whitman- CEO & president of ebay
Irene Rosenfeld- CEO of Kraft Foods
Brenda Barnes- CEO & Chairman of Sara Lee
Judy McGrath- CEO of Viacom
Anne Sweeney- President of Disney-ABC Television group
Ann More- Chairman & Ceo of Time, Inc
Susan Decker- CFO of Yahoo
Susan Desmond-Hellman- President of Genetech
Kay Krill- President & CEO of Ann Taylor
Shona Brown- SVP, Business Operations of Google
Beth Comstock- President NBC Universal Digital Media & Market Dvlpmt General Electric
Carol Bartz- Chairman, CEO, President of Autodesk
Kathy Cassidy- Treasurer of General Electric
Senator Barbara Boxer
Senator Olympia Snowe
Senator Lisa Murkowski
Senator Blanche Lincoln
Senator Dianne Feinstein
Senator Mary Landrieu
Senator Susan Collins
Senator Barbara Mikulski
Senator Debbie Stabenow
Senator Amy Klobuchar
Senator Claire McCaskill
Senator Jeanne Shaheen
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
Senator Kay Hagan
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison
Senator Patty Murray
Senator Maria Cantwell
Governor Linda Lingle
Governor Jennifer Granholm
Governor Jodi Rell
Governor Bev Perdue
Governor Jan Brewer
etc. etc. etc.
Thank you but my question was the following:

Please tell me what white women have produced equivalent to the privilege treatment they have received over the last 50 years? Which white women have personally changed the lives of all Americans and people around the world in the last 50 years? Please name any scientist, engineers, politicians or leaders that have touched all Americans and changed our lives.


Which white women have personally changed the lives of all Americans and people around the world in the last 50 years?
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olmec1
Jan 23 2010, 06:45 PM
bastonecannella
Jan 23 2010, 05:57 PM
In a previous post, I stated the following:

"I would argue that this is because all they've had to do is exist. Think about it. White men had to earn their hand in marriage and so had to make sure they had amassed some wealth in order to be considered worthy. Black men and women were slaves whose families were torn apart and sold. Black men used to hung because white men were "defending" their women. Meanwhile black women were raped repeatedly and no one could defend them. Black women have had to work to provide for the household as well as their men did if they were around and in addition black women had to cook, clean and sew. So all other segments of the population had to adapt to rough conditions and change, except for white women. So now as a result, u have a segment of the population that is so used to being provided for that now. But now times have changed and they've got some serious catching up to do."

I'd like to add to that. Black women have had to also be physically strong. Now I think of it, maybe that's why we're always described as strong as well as other reasons. Even until today. How many black women have to strap their children to their chests to get back and forth/do work and fold, unfold and lift strollers all the time. Additionally, a lot of our mothers had to do physically demanding jobs and grandmothers backbreaking housework in and out of the household as well as taking in laundry. This is while white women have had housekeepers, nannies/au pairs and cooks to do the heavy lifting for them.
Very interesting.

Do you find people are reluctant to talk about white women in any critical way?
I do indeed. I think it's because they're the protected ones. Always have been. With time I'm sure that will wear off but right now the status quo dictates that it's perfectly fine to speak in a derogatory tone about black women but not white.
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I answered this question with the names mentioned above:
"Please name any scientist, engineers, politicians or leaders that have touched all Americans and changed our lives."
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Jan 23 2010, 07:41 PM
I answered this question with the names mentioned above:
"Please name any scientist, engineers, politicians or leaders that have touched all Americans and changed our lives."
Yes, these are well establish professionals. However, I do not see the one that has changed the lives of all Americans not just White women or woman.

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Name one person period who has changed the lives of ALL Americans. I think that is nearly impossible.
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