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How to save young black men: Authority figures must teach the difference between right and wrong; Ladies you asked for leadership
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Geechie
Dec 29 2009, 10:03 PM
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Dec 29 2009, 09:49 PM
When I was growing up my parents took me to church every Sunday.
How many of these kids can say the same today?
Is there a point here?
In church and sunday school, right and wrong were taught to me. It was not like my mother and father did not teach me, but I kept hearing it from other sources. I learned that I shall not steal, kill, and not desire what others have been blessed with. But most of all, I learned to love others as i love myself.
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Thank you Last Black Man
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bastonecannella
Dec 29 2009, 10:37 PM
If you're going to lead, then do it. Otherwise, don't speak about it. Why are you asking for permission? Seriously? Prove that you can lead first and then do it. But I know if you're asking me to "let" you lead, I'm going to laugh in your face. Want to lead? Take the reigns and show what you've got.

It's like a dance. If a man asked me if he could lead me on the dance floor, I'd probably leave the dance floor in a fit of hysterical laughter because he's asking me to do what he should already be doing.
Here we go again. It is ironic that I was have a similar discussion with one of my co-workers. he was telling me about how these kids are growing up today and it takes a Village to raise a child.

It use to be that if anyone saw you doing wrong they would say something, tell your folks, or give you a whipping. But today, you can not correct a child for acting up. For example, my co-worker stated he was getting a hair cut and a lady with a child came in. The child was running around and jumping in chairs and doing what he wanted to do. So he told the child, you know you need to sit down and act like you git some home training. The child mother told him to shut up and not talk to her child that way.

Another case in point, I know a man that had a teenaged son and he was trying his best to keep him on the straight and narrow. his wife did not like the way he was handling the son. She called the law and had the father removed. he told her within a month after he was going that their child would be in jail. His kid was arrested for snatching pocketbooks. It got worse because the driver of the car had a gun. Although the gun was actually used to rob anyone, they got charged with arm robbery. the boy is in jail now and his mother is crying.

I rest my case.
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Dec 29 2009, 11:28 PM
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Dec 29 2009, 10:37 PM
If you're going to lead, then do it. Otherwise, don't speak about it. Why are you asking for permission? Seriously? Prove that you can lead first and then do it. But I know if you're asking me to "let" you lead, I'm going to laugh in your face. Want to lead? Take the reigns and show what you've got.

It's like a dance. If a man asked me if he could lead me on the dance floor, I'd probably leave the dance floor in a fit of hysterical laughter because he's asking me to do what he should already be doing.
Here we go again. It is ironic that I was have a similar discussion with one of my co-workers. he was telling me about how these kids are growing up today and it takes a Village to raise a child.

It use to be that if anyone saw you doing wrong they would say something, tell your folks, or give you a whipping. But today, you can not correct a child for acting up. For example, my co-worker stated he was getting a hair cut and a lady with a child came in. The child was running around and jumping in chairs and doing what he wanted to do. So he told the child, you know you need to sit down and act like you git some home training. The child mother told him to shut up and not talk to her child that way.

Another case in point, I know a man that had a teenaged son and he was trying his best to keep him on the straight and narrow. his wife did not like the way he was handling the son. She called the law and had the father removed. he told her within a month after he was going that their child would be in jail. His kid was arrested for snatching pocketbooks. It got worse because the driver of the car had a gun. Although the gun was actually used to rob anyone, they got charged with arm robbery. the boy is in jail now and his mother is crying.

I rest my case.
Maybe that's your complete reality but it's not mine. Are there folks who will cause you problem if you discipline your child or their child? No doubt. But if you want to lead then you've got to take that risk. You need to show that you're willing to put yourself on the line if others are going follow you. If not, then you can cry about not being allowed to lead but all I'm going to do is laugh in your face and ask you why you expected anything different.
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Dec 29 2009, 11:49 PM
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Dec 29 2009, 10:37 PM
If you're going to lead, then do it. Otherwise, don't speak about it. Why are you asking for permission? Seriously? Prove that you can lead first and then do it. But I know if you're asking me to "let" you lead, I'm going to laugh in your face. Want to lead? Take the reigns and show what you've got.

It's like a dance. If a man asked me if he could lead me on the dance floor, I'd probably leave the dance floor in a fit of hysterical laughter because he's asking me to do what he should already be doing.
Here we go again. It is ironic that I was have a similar discussion with one of my co-workers. he was telling me about how these kids are growing up today and it takes a Village to raise a child.

It use to be that if anyone saw you doing wrong they would say something, tell your folks, or give you a whipping. But today, you can not correct a child for acting up. For example, my co-worker stated he was getting a hair cut and a lady with a child came in. The child was running around and jumping in chairs and doing what he wanted to do. So he told the child, you know you need to sit down and act like you git some home training. The child mother told him to shut up and not talk to her child that way.

Another case in point, I know a man that had a teenaged son and he was trying his best to keep him on the straight and narrow. his wife did not like the way he was handling the son. She called the law and had the father removed. he told her within a month after he was going that their child would be in jail. His kid was arrested for snatching pocketbooks. It got worse because the driver of the car had a gun. Although the gun was actually used to rob anyone, they got charged with arm robbery. the boy is in jail now and his mother is crying.

I rest my case.
Maybe that's your complete reality but it's not mine. Are there folks who will cause you problem if you discipline your child or their child? No doubt. But if you want to lead then you've got to take that risk. You need to show that you're willing to put yourself on the line if others are going follow you. If not, then you can cry about not being allowed to lead but all I'm going to do is laugh in your face and ask you why you expected anything different.
It takes a Village to raise a child and we have some that ub=nermined oir efforts. I will just say your ladies are not ready for the truth about our situation and why our kids are out of control. :'(

The Truth! You can't handle the truth!
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If you're going to lead, then do it. Otherwise, don't speak about it. Why are you asking for permission? Seriously? Prove that you can lead first and then do it. But I know if you're asking me to "let" you lead, I'm going to laugh in your face. Want to lead? Take the reigns and show what you've got.

It's like a dance. If a man asked me if he could lead me on the dance floor, I'd probably leave the dance floor in a fit of hysterical laughter because he's asking me to do what he should already be doing.
Here we go again. It is ironic that I was have a similar discussion with one of my co-workers. he was telling me about how these kids are growing up today and it takes a Village to raise a child.

It use to be that if anyone saw you doing wrong they would say something, tell your folks, or give you a whipping. But today, you can not correct a child for acting up. For example, my co-worker stated he was getting a hair cut and a lady with a child came in. The child was running around and jumping in chairs and doing what he wanted to do. So he told the child, you know you need to sit down and act like you git some home training. The child mother told him to shut up and not talk to her child that way.

Another case in point, I know a man that had a teenaged son and he was trying his best to keep him on the straight and narrow. his wife did not like the way he was handling the son. She called the law and had the father removed. he told her within a month after he was going that their child would be in jail. His kid was arrested for snatching pocketbooks. It got worse because the driver of the car had a gun. Although the gun was actually used to rob anyone, they got charged with arm robbery. the boy is in jail now and his mother is crying.

I rest my case.
Maybe that's your complete reality but it's not mine. Are there folks who will cause you problem if you discipline your child or their child? No doubt. But if you want to lead then you've got to take that risk. You need to show that you're willing to put yourself on the line if others are going follow you. If not, then you can cry about not being allowed to lead but all I'm going to do is laugh in your face and ask you why you expected anything different.
It takes a Village to raise a child and we have some that ub=nermined oir efforts. I will just say your ladies are not ready for the truth about our situation and why our kids are out of control. :'(

The Truth! You can't handle the truth!
It does take a village. And black men should be leading our village, not following our cues, asking to be allowed to lead.

Laughing in your face! Ha ha, ha ha ha ha!!!
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Dec 30 2009, 12:13 AM
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bastonecannella
Dec 29 2009, 10:37 PM
If you're going to lead, then do it. Otherwise, don't speak about it. Why are you asking for permission? Seriously? Prove that you can lead first and then do it. But I know if you're asking me to "let" you lead, I'm going to laugh in your face. Want to lead? Take the reigns and show what you've got.

It's like a dance. If a man asked me if he could lead me on the dance floor, I'd probably leave the dance floor in a fit of hysterical laughter because he's asking me to do what he should already be doing.
Here we go again. It is ironic that I was have a similar discussion with one of my co-workers. he was telling me about how these kids are growing up today and it takes a Village to raise a child.

It use to be that if anyone saw you doing wrong they would say something, tell your folks, or give you a whipping. But today, you can not correct a child for acting up. For example, my co-worker stated he was getting a hair cut and a lady with a child came in. The child was running around and jumping in chairs and doing what he wanted to do. So he told the child, you know you need to sit down and act like you git some home training. The child mother told him to shut up and not talk to her child that way.

Another case in point, I know a man that had a teenaged son and he was trying his best to keep him on the straight and narrow. his wife did not like the way he was handling the son. She called the law and had the father removed. he told her within a month after he was going that their child would be in jail. His kid was arrested for snatching pocketbooks. It got worse because the driver of the car had a gun. Although the gun was actually used to rob anyone, they got charged with arm robbery. the boy is in jail now and his mother is crying.

I rest my case.
Maybe that's your complete reality but it's not mine. Are there folks who will cause you problem if you discipline your child or their child? No doubt. But if you want to lead then you've got to take that risk. You need to show that you're willing to put yourself on the line if others are going follow you. If not, then you can cry about not being allowed to lead but all I'm going to do is laugh in your face and ask you why you expected anything different.
It takes a Village to raise a child and we have some that ub=nermined oir efforts. I will just say your ladies are not ready for the truth about our situation and why our kids are out of control. :'(

The Truth! You can't handle the truth!
It does take a village. And black men should be leading our village, not following our cues, asking to be allowed to lead.

Laughing in your face! Ha ha, ha ha ha ha!!!
Bed time! I love you too!
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First of all, young black males are choosing to be uneducated, thugs, bangers, etc. If they are creative enough to rap, make it on the streets, make money or whatever they choose to be then they should be smart enough to understand that they are going nowhere in life without an education. When i was a baby, in elementary school and couldn't do for myself my mother was responsible for me. As a teenager i knew right from wrong and made good decisions. I had no father and that's no excuse. At 15-18 years old you're only job is to go to school, PERIOD. If you are a parent of a teenager whom hasn't brought home a report card in 3 years, your azzz should be put in jail. You have failed. The community can't do squat for someone whom doesn't want to be helped.
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Dec 30 2009, 10:28 AM
First of all, young black males are choosing to be uneducated, thugs, bangers, etc. If they are creative enough to rap, make it on the streets, make money or whatever they choose to be then they should be smart enough to understand that they are going nowhere in life without an education. When i was a baby, in elementary school and couldn't do for myself my mother was responsible for me. As a teenager i knew right from wrong and made good decisions. I had no father and that's no excuse. At 15-18 years old you're only job is to go to school, PERIOD. If you are a parent of a teenager whom hasn't brought home a report card in 3 years, your azzz should be put in jail. You have failed. The community can't do squat for someone whom doesn't want to be helped.
A lot of the young brothers in the streets are very smart, even if they
don't have a college degree. Jay Z dropped out of high school,
but he one of the smartest business men in the music industry.

As a high school drop out how did Jay Z learn those business skills?

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It is time for to take my belt off and issue some loving discipline up in here. After much thought, I think I have come up with the proper way to see what I need to see and may be it will open some eyes. I did not come here to point fingers, but try to offer some insight about the situation in the black community and why we will continue to have problems until we change our though process.

I will begin by saying, Ladies the old saying is true that behind every success man is great woman. I am going to put it to you like this men are very simple creatures and we respond best to what is taught and observed. Let step back about 50 – 60 years ago, when black males were going to college, trade school, and the military in hopes of a better life for himself and future family. Men were driven to be better because their parents instill in them a sense of proud and hard work, but the strongest driving force was the love of a beautiful back woman. If a man was not trying to work as a lawyer, doctor or a good manufacturing company, the women did not want anything to do with them. The women back them demand and expect that a man should try to better himself by going to work.

Let me relate a story about my father and mother. My dad say that the first time he saw my mother, he did not want any other woman and he tried to take to her; however, she did not want to have anything to do with him. Back then, he was a player and he was running the street, smoking, and drinking. In fact, he had a night club, where some of the best talent in Macon GA you to perform before they were famous. He had plenty of women and knew some famous people, but his heart was set on one woman who was not give him the time of day. One day, he say he got sloppy drunk and wake up in an alley and when he looked in the mirror the next day, it dawn on him, he saw what my mother saw and he stop drinking. My mother was never a club person, so the club had to go. He was finally able to get the woman he desired and was blessed with four sons that never been in trouble with the law, or on drugs. I share that story because it will reinforce my next few points.

The main point is, Ladies you can not change a man; you can only enhance a man. Too often get caught up in trying to change a man and make him do a 180 degree turn. It seem that men have learned a valuable lesson in this area. You will never see a man trying to make a housewife out of a ______. To many women today are trying to turn a thug into a loving husband. If the guy beat on you, steal your money, let you with children, you should not be surprise because this is what thugs do. In fact, women are indirectly responsible for this behavior because you encourage guys to be thugs because you reinforce that behavior by giving the thugs the cookies as my folks Steve Harvey will say. Guys are looking and acting thuggish because that is what attracts the women. Trust me, we can turn this whole situation around if women started dating guys that were going to school, wore slacks, and nice shirts. Guys will indirectly get the message that looking well dress will help get the woman. Right now the message that we receive is helping produce more thugs than theologians.
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