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| Topic Started: Dec 9 2009, 03:47 AM (1,400 Views) | |
| Elle | Dec 9 2009, 03:47 AM Post #1 |
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On the websites homepage, their is a link for quotes by "some of our greatest leaders" (I'm assuming this means the black communities greatest leaders). There are many quotes by Malcolm X and Louis Farrakahan. The last thing I would call these two men are "leaders". Malcolm X hurt the civil rights movement more than helped. He called Martin Luther King a "chump" and was an avid racist. Farrakahan is antisemitic and preaches lies. If these are the black communities "greatest leaders", then the black community has a LONG way to go. |
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| Muhammad | Dec 9 2009, 04:12 AM Post #2 |
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Tell us about your leadership, we would love to hear about it. We would love to hear what kind of contribution you are making to the Black community. Do you have programs that's cleaning up drug users and drug dealers, are you reforming Black people from a life of crime. Would you be so kind as to tell us about your contribution? |
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| Elle | Dec 9 2009, 04:19 AM Post #3 |
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I'm doing well for myself just to make it through another semester of college. LOL! However, I'm currently studying Criminal Justice and I hope to one day mentor troubled juveniles. Until then, I'm working to help start a nonprofit organization that offers affordable housing to low income families. So far, we've placed a black mother in a home with her four children. Thanks for asking. Now, back to the topic... |
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| Muhammad | Dec 9 2009, 01:06 PM Post #4 |
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I didn't ask you what you're doing for yourself, tell us what you're doing for the Black community. Tell us about yourself as a leader? God used Malcolm X and Farrakhan to wake up Black people from their ignorance. God used them to clean up a lot of Black people from drug use and a lot of other social ills. So if you're going to criticize those brothers, at least tell us what your doing. |
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| BuffaloSoldier | Dec 9 2009, 02:52 PM Post #5 |
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Man, I never thought that I would hear a person saying that Macolm hurt the civil right's movement. From what you said that your doing, every little thing counts. But you havent done a fraction of what this man has done for our people. He believed in us coming together as a people and stood up for our right's when other were afraid. How would you function in that era. Come on Elle, the reason that you can go to school is because of people like him. If these are poor leaders, who do you feel was most instrumenatal in our progress, FBI Hoover? Give me some names of leaders that you feel helped the movement?
Edited by BuffaloSoldier, Dec 9 2009, 02:54 PM.
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| Elle | Dec 9 2009, 05:11 PM Post #6 |
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I think I pretty much covered what I say I've done for people. However, that is not even relevant to this conversation. Besides, why does black community constantly need to be helped? Maybe you meant to say the poor community? Obviously the two aren't synonomous with eachother. Anyways, I think it's odd that you seem to think that you know God's intentions. It's also hard for me to believe that God would use anyone who spews such hatred (as these men did/do) for his good will. |
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| Elle | Dec 9 2009, 05:23 PM Post #7 |
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Actually, I'm white. Anyways, Malcolm X publicly criticized and chastised Martin Luther King. Malcolm X was a hateful man, and hated others who were different than him. He was no different than any white man who hated blacks just because of their skin color. I'm all for black people standing up for themselves, celebrating their culture, and uplifting those in their community. However, Malcolm X didn't do any of these. He didn't want blacks and whites to live harmoniously. What is the difference between what Malcolm X preached and the Brown v. Board of Education "seperate but equal" case? They are the same. Also, isn't it oddly ironic that Malcolm X lived his entire life seemingly hating whites, but in the in was killed by one of his own (a black Muslim). |
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| BuffaloSoldier | Dec 9 2009, 05:32 PM Post #8 |
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Elle, did you read literature on Malcolm towards the end of his life. About his pilgramigeto Mecca. He did not share those same views once he returned. He asked for forgiveness for his previous ways. Who are we not to forgive him. Another thing; tell me what other ethnic group is in the shape that we are in now. Its hard to jump and help someone else when people that look like you are in such trouble. I dont believe that we should want hand outs and that we should work for what we get out of life. But less fortunate people may need a little help to get on the right track. Once again I ask you Elle, who are some leaders that you admire since Malcolm gets no credit from you? |
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| BuffaloSoldier | Dec 9 2009, 05:36 PM Post #9 |
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elle I didnt read you response before my last post, Stand by for another response..
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| BuffaloSoldier | Dec 9 2009, 06:20 PM Post #10 |
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Ok Elle, that explains a lot. You have to remember what era Malcolm lived in. Im sure that there were a lot of frustrations felt by black people at that time. He was an intelligent man and I highly doubt that he would feel the same today because conditions arent the same. You cant judge a person on their actions from an era where blacks were treated like second class citizens. I believe in helping all poor people but I cannot ignore the fact that 9 of the 10 people that are going to need it will likely be black in the inner city. Believe me Elle Im a proud person and I think that all blacks should be self sufficient. We all dont want hand outs. Another thing, if Malcolm were alive today I think that he would forgive the man who shot him because he was that dedicated to the upliftment of his people in those desperate times. I think that Malcolm is as vital a part of Civil Right's as some of the racist past Presidents are to American history. Just because you are white doesnt mean that you cant tell me who you think were suitable Civil Right's leaders from that era?? |
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