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Elijah Muhammad is a good man; A very good man
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Topic Started: Dec 5 2009, 04:35 PM (2,784 Views)
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Dec 5 2009, 08:34 PM
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I beleive i stated before that EM was pro-black. I am not saying he didn't change what X considered "the slave mind". BUT you can not advocate black intelligence, and play part of an assassination because of true teachings. everyone is leaving the NoI.....you probably didn't even know that Farrakhan himself left the NoI because his disagreements Warith Muhammad
again.. X states that "Elijah Muhammad could stop the whole thing by raising his hand, but he won't." WHAT PEACEFUL MAN WONT FUCKING RAISE HIS HAND TO STOP VIOLENCE IF IT'S THAT EASY???????????
all i have to say, is im glad he was just an apostle, because him as a god.....psh Malcolm X said that this was a lot bigger than the Nation of Islam Malcolm X was food poisoned when he was in Egypt. That's when he knew that the U.S. Government wanted him killed.
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Dec 5 2009, 08:36 PM
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- Dec 5 2009, 05:19 PM
EM doesnt know what do with the name theory. One minute he gives you Muhammad Bubonic Plutonic . Then he tells you just to put an X as your last name, so there were many Muslims with the last name X or a #X. and he is no better than the slave masters.....Now people are taking their last name from a hypocrite and a crook. sounds like a slavemaster to me. Elijah Muhammad gave everybody and X, before he gave them a Muslim name. I think it was in 1957 that he gave Malcolm his new name Malik Shabazz
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Dec 5 2009, 08:39 PM
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I will end at this..... I am not trying to change your views about Elijah Muhammad, rather than inform you with truths about his personal character. The way you view someone may or will be different from how a view someone.
I hope you learned something from this debate....i know i did.
I wish you the best.
I'm not in the Nation of Islam, but I know about his good works. Nobody is perfect, everybody has faults
But Elijah Muhammad good works out weighed any short comming that he might have had.
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Dec 5 2009, 11:02 PM
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O O O...and X also commented on the many Muslims of NoI that did not set their required pilgrimage. EVERY Muslim is supposed set to Mecca at least once in their lifetime. psshhh People have to save up money, in order to make the trip to Mecca. It can cost you over 1500 dollars to go over there for Mecca. Some people haven't been for financial reasons
Elijah Muhammad, Farrakhan, Malcolm X, WD Muhammad they've all been to Mecca several times.
How many Christians have been to the Holy Land, and visited the area where Jesus lived and did his work?
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Dec 6 2009, 12:32 AM
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What the fuck does a new name have anything to do with the forgiveness of the negative deeds of a person??? when has X used that name????? Even in Mecca he used Malcolm.
Names mean a lot in Africa they don't just give their kids names, every name has a meaning in Africa So you're saying that Black Americans should be proud of their White slave names? Are you saying that Elijah Muhammad shouldn't have taken away Black people slave names? I am very proud of my name which mean crowned one. As I see it, God must wanted me to have my name because it fits his plans. The ironic thing is my last name is Jewish.
I have a problem with this slave name thing because many black people have some white roots. It has been said that Ali has white roots (Irish), therefore his name may have been correct.
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Dec 6 2009, 01:30 AM
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What the fuck does a new name have anything to do with the forgiveness of the negative deeds of a person??? when has X used that name????? Even in Mecca he used Malcolm.
Names mean a lot in Africa they don't just give their kids names, every name has a meaning in Africa So you're saying that Black Americans should be proud of their White slave names? Are you saying that Elijah Muhammad shouldn't have taken away Black people slave names?
I am very proud of my name which mean crowned one. As I see it, God must wanted me to have my name because it fits his plans. The ironic thing is my last name is Jewish. I have a problem with this slave name thing because many black people have some white roots. It has been said that Ali has white roots (Irish), therefore his name may have been correct. Do any White people have slave names?
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Dec 6 2009, 03:15 AM
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The Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Nation Of Islam has a great prison reform ministry. The go into prisons and reform criminals.
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Dec 6 2009, 10:36 AM
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O O O...and X also commented on the many Muslims of NoI that did not set their required pilgrimage. EVERY Muslim is supposed set to Mecca at least once in their lifetime. psshhh
People have to save up money, in order to make the trip to Mecca. It can cost you over 1500 dollars to go over there for Mecca. Some people haven't been for financial reasons Elijah Muhammad, Farrakhan, Malcolm X, WD Muhammad they've all been to Mecca several times. How many Christians have been to the Holy Land, and visited the area where Jesus lived and did his work? Exactly...over 1500 dollars. But in the X biograpy he states that the brothers were spending a lot of their money on materialistic things. So much so, that even Betty (X's wife) complained about them not having the better things (house and furniture) that the other brothers did. Is it required for Christians to visit the holy land? because its required for muslims to
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Dec 6 2009, 10:57 AM
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Malcolm X said that this was a lot bigger than the Nation of Islam Malcolm X was food poisoned when he was in Egypt. That's when he knew that the U.S. Government wanted him killed. X did state that there were government officials watching his every move on his trip to Mecca. But it wasnt the gov making thousand of threatening phone calls to X and his family, It wasnt the gov throwing cocktails through his window (even his childrens room) trying to catch his house on fire, And also it wasnt the gov that assassinated him....it was all the NoI. And it all could have been prevented if EM wanted it to. BUT instead, he'd rather see X assassinated, 3 NoI Muslims go to jail, and over 100 NoI followers change to a different denomination of Islam. Doesn't sound like he wanted peace to me.
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Dec 7 2009, 04:43 AM
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O O O...and X also commented on the many Muslims of NoI that did not set their required pilgrimage. EVERY Muslim is supposed set to Mecca at least once in their lifetime. psshhh
People have to save up money, in order to make the trip to Mecca. It can cost you over 1500 dollars to go over there for Mecca. Some people haven't been for financial reasons Elijah Muhammad, Farrakhan, Malcolm X, WD Muhammad they've all been to Mecca several times. How many Christians have been to the Holy Land, and visited the area where Jesus lived and did his work?
Exactly...over 1500 dollars. But in the X biograpy he states that the brothers were spending a lot of their money on materialistic things. So much so, that even Betty (X's wife) complained about them not having the better things (house and furniture) that the other brothers did. Is it required for Christians to visit the holy land? because its required for muslims to Dr. King experienced the samething, he wasn't trying to get money. It was other people in the movement that was trying to get money. Dr. King pretty much died broke.
Malcolm X daughter said that when he died, he had 600 dollars to his name. Brother Malcolm wasn't out for money.
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