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| Tweet Topic Started: January 19, 2013, 12:01 pm (1,640 Views) | |
| Arcvalons | January 23, 2013, 7:55 pm Post #26 |
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Lord of the Octoroks, all hail!
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I not sure about them spawning weapons, probably not, but they can have appendages that are weapons, like a tail-axe. The technology without them is comparable to our world's enlightment, in which there are enough advances in the fields of mathematics and engineering for some advanced designs, there is basic understanding of physics, etc. and social and political thought has developed to include concepts such as national sovereignity and self-determination, legal equality between states, non-intervention, nationalism, rational thought, universal rights of men, freedom and liberty, etc. It's unlikely a normal human could defeat a fully-transformed or separate Crimson Heart, but it's not impossible. Weapons work fine against them, though it really depends on the kind if creature, so one with thicker skin is harder to damage... They can only communicate telepathically with their masters. And sure, the master could access the creature's senses (like Pain's summons in Naruto) but probably would be through a specialization of some sort. |
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| Onime No Ryu | January 23, 2013, 8:01 pm Post #27 |
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Do Crimson Hearts need to eat or sleep? Are they all monstrous in appearance or are some of them humanoid? You said they start off at full power from the beginning and don't grow or evolve over time. That seems like a bad limit to me. What's your justification for it? What are the power levels going to be like? |
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| Winters | January 23, 2013, 8:08 pm Post #28 |
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Would it be possible for someone to bind other Crimson Hearts to them? |
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| Arcvalons | January 23, 2013, 8:36 pm Post #29 |
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They don't need nourishment, since when they are not summoned, they like inside your characters. And they can look however you want, since its your characters' emotions and willpower what gives them shape and form. Them staying at full-power is just because it seems simpler, not sure what system I could use for them growing up from small weak things to large powerful things. But as your character experiences things, the Crimson Heart can learn new abilities, since it's like a projection of their growing character. In that sense they can get stronger, but they already start 'developed' or 'complete' anyway. Binding other Crimson Hearts sounds like a good villainous plot, but I feel it would be putting much more focus on them, and in any case they would be incompatible with new masters. So I don't think it should be possible. |
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| Onime No Ryu | January 24, 2013, 8:04 am Post #30 |
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Could one tame wild Crimson Hearts in the same way you'd tame an animal? Since they're mindless beasts, shouldn't they understand the same things animals do? If you had a Crimson Heart of your own to match their power, couldn't you just beat them into submission or keep them under the whip or something in order to control them? |
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| Arcvalons | January 24, 2013, 8:10 am Post #31 |
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I suppose you could, but you wouldn't share the same connection you share with your own Crimson Heart. It would be much more difficult to control. |
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| Onime No Ryu | January 24, 2013, 8:34 am Post #32 |
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Couldn't a villain do that to give themselves an army of monsters, then? Especially if they used, say, shock collars of some sort? Maybe their own Crimson Heart is a binding-type or something that specializes in creating bonds to tie down enemies, and thus they can use that to restrain wild Crimson Hearts and force them to do their bidding. Is there any sort of typing to the Crimson Hearts? Have they been scientifically categorized into different species, or even into something as simple as "Attack type, Defense type, etc?" Is there a system for rating the strength of a Crimson Heart? Since they're involved in the military, I would think ranking things like this would be important. Maybe as far as progressing powers or evolutions go, you could put a limit on how many are possible. Like maybe a Crimson Heart only evolves once or twice in its lifetime, and only at significant moments in the user's life. It might lead to a few asspulls, but could ostensibly lead to some awesome moments as well. |
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| Arcvalons | January 24, 2013, 9:23 am Post #33 |
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They could, but they are still not going to be at their strongest if they are not natural , nor would they be able to get stronger. The method that Balgrantos uses is more effective. They have affinities, which depend on the character's personality. For example, it would make sense for a wrathful or passionate character to have a fire creature. Types such as Offensive, Defensive, Support can easily be worked. Also thinking about them being either Inner for reserved and introverted characters, and Outer for outgoing and extroverted characters. I don't know about limits, first have to figure the starting abilities. Probably there will be various slots for physical abilities, special abilities, reaction abilities, and passive abilities - transformations/evolutions could open new slots depending on the exact creature. |
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| NTNP | January 24, 2013, 1:50 pm Post #34 |
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Why am I having this horrible flashback to Digimon Adventures and the Digi-Emperor? |
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| Arcvalons | January 24, 2013, 1:56 pm Post #35 |
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Lord of the Octoroks, all hail!
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I had a Pokemon RP planned in which the bad guy was like the Digimon Emperor |
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| Onime No Ryu | January 25, 2013, 11:44 am Post #36 |
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Horrible? That arc was the best thing about Adventure 02. ANYWAY, MORE QUESTIONS! Are the Crimson Hearts sorted into a limited number of elements like most magic in RPs usually is, or could they be any kind of "element," for instance a Poison one or a Clay one or whatever? Can a Crimson Heart be killed at all? What effect does this have on the Master? Can a Master destroy their own Crimson Heart, and then build themselves a new one since the Crimson Heart is created from their will and emotion? What other countries exist besides Balgrantos? What is Balgrantos government structure like? Its society? Is it based on any country from the real world? Is it similar to any country in the real world? What is it like geographically? How prosperous is it? What are its biggest exports and imports? What's the economy like? How many people live there? How easy/hard is life for the common citizen there? |
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| Arcvalons | January 25, 2013, 12:34 pm Post #37 |
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They are sorted into a limited number of elements, but there should be enough for everyone.
Hmm. For Inner-types, the Crimson Heart's death signifies the Alchemist's death, since they share one body. Not sure how it could work for Outer-types, but since there is still a very deep spiritual connection between the two, it would probably be the same.
There used to be many other countries, but now Balgrantos controls between one-half or two-thirds of the whole map either directly or through client states. It's not really based in a specific country. It has a very powerful economy, and is very prosperous in its core provinces. The citizens there have a very metropolitan outlook, and are rather detached from the problems of the world at large. The protectorates and vassals under its control (like Remenellia) face constant rebellion and often become the battlefield of large battles in the continued wars, and so are much less stable. In theory, the peoples there have the same rights as those in the 'homeland', but poverty is high due the resources of their countries being drained for the continued wars, and the rampant corruption of officers who find it convenient to exploit the peoples of the foreign nations under the empire's dominance ("we conquered them, so we have the right."). It is expected that in the future they be absorbed completely into Balgrantos proper, and their current submissive pro-Balgrantos rulers be rewarded with landed titles for their role in 'pacifying' the countries. Balgrantos itself is a strange experiment of sorts. Nobody thought it would amount to much when it was founded through a revolution some decades prior. While it posess a very strong and stable landed aristocracy, the common citizens have basic rights and liberties for themselves and it is very viable for them to ascend through the ranks through hard-work and determination (mosly in war). The estimated population is about 30 Million. There is the Balgrantos Senate, in which the aristocracy, the true rulers of the realm, are represented. They do all the usual stuff that a legislature usually does, and thus have the power to make and unmake laws for the good of the realm as a whole. It's not perfect, as there are usually factions vying for power within, and that in turn lends itself to corruption. The Balgrantos Emperor is appointed by them through a majority vote, usually from amongst them, and is the sole authority and responsibility for the daily administration of the state. Often he is but a puppet, but ocasionally a strong and determined man is chosen. Their stated goal is world domination, following the premise that when the world is united under a single flag, world peace would finally be achieved. And whose flag would that be, but that of the civilized and enlightned nation that Balgrantos is? Note that the protectorates and ther vassal states, like Remenellia, are nominally independent countries, but are submitted to the interests of Balgrantos in all senses of the word. It is expected that in the future they be absorbed completely, and their current submissive native rulers be rewarded with landed titles for their role in 'pacifying' the country. |
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| Onime No Ryu | January 25, 2013, 12:51 pm Post #38 |
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So basically it's what America would be if we still had an expansionist policy. We're not very concerned with the world outside our own bubble--hence why our people are so easy to lead like a herd of sheep because they don't know any better. They're perfectly content to sit in front of their tvs, grow fat on fast food, and not worry about or question anything at all. They live happy lives, but they are also ignorant. Is this close to what Balgrantos's people are like? Elaborate more on the difference between Inner and Outer Crimson Hearts, please. I get that Outer power is some kind of physical manifestation, but is it actually attached to the user's body or used like some form of weapon? Does the Crimson Heart attack on its own? Are Inner powers more like passive abilities? What's the real difference between the two? Do the summoners have their own division of the military like in FMA, or are they commanded and put into the same divisions by and with normal soldiers? |
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| Arcvalons | January 26, 2013, 10:42 am Post #39 |
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I suppose, but there are no such thing as television or fast food. Outer- types is when the Crimson Heart is an external being, like a Pokemon. It's what we have been talking about mostly. Inner- types is when the Crimson Heart is within tha alchemist, like a tailed beast inside a host. Alchemists do have their pensar divisions |
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| Onime No Ryu | January 26, 2013, 10:44 am Post #40 |
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So what differs in how the two types fight? |
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| Arcvalons | January 26, 2013, 1:42 pm Post #41 |
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Lord of the Octoroks, all hail!
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Inner-type Crimson Hearts reside permanently in your character's body, and your character uses the abilities of the Crimson Heart himself; he may also partially transform into the Crimson Heart, for example, momentarily growing claws for attack, or wings for mobility. A full transformation is also possible, but this is like an 'overdrive' of sorts, in which while your character grows much more powerful being able to use the Crimson Heart's full power, it is also much easier to lose control and release it (in this case losing yourself as it takes over your mind and body forever). Inner-types are naturally more powerful, but you can only partially access their power, the risks of unleashing their full potential being too great. At first, characters with them would be at a disadvantage against those that can use their full power at the start, but over time as they master their inner Crimson Heart they could gain the upper ground. Outer-type Crimson Hearts are 'projected' with their full form in the outside world. While technically separate from your character, there is a very intimate spiritual connection, so they don't need to be shouted orders as they always know exactly what you want them to be doing (they after all are shaped by your emotions and will). Outer-types are not as powerful, but their full power is accessible from the beginning (barring evolutions), and it carries little risk to use them. At first, characters with them would be at an advantage against those that can't use their full power, but over time they would be at a moderate disadvantage against those that have mastered their inner Crimson Heart. It's not that large of a difference, but it is somewhat important. If the maximum power level of the outer Crimson Heart is 50, then the maximum power level of the inner Crimson Heart would be 75-100. Also changing my mind about them not having a personality of their own, they do, it's just like a mirror of your character's strongest emotions and will. Inner-types obviously can only communicate with you telepathically, but Outer-types can probably talk normally and interact verbally with anyone. Edited by Arcvalons, January 26, 2013, 1:46 pm.
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| Onime No Ryu | January 26, 2013, 1:47 pm Post #42 |
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So Outer types are the types that are like Stands and Personas. But why are the Inner types stronger? What kind of abilities can the Crimson Hearts have? Are they limited to fighting with their bodies and using elemental powers, like fire breath and shooting ice shards, or could they have more "bizarre" abilities like using conditions or something? For instance, "anything I hit is weighed down by so much per hit," or "if you agree to play a game with me and lose, you will lose a body part as part of your "bid!" however, if I am defeated even after the game is over, your bid is returned to you." Is anything like that possible? |
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| Arcvalons | January 26, 2013, 1:56 pm Post #43 |
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Inner-types are stronger since they have a much more powerful and intimate bond with you, and the risks of unleashing their full potential is greater. Rarely Alchemists with those Crimson Hearts show their full power though, not all of the,m can and it's too dangerous, so do not worry. I was thinking that the creation of affinities will be left to the players, that way it won't be too limiting. There will be elemental affinities and those would be the basic ones, but there can also be things like illusion affinities, support affinities, etc. so in a sense they are like the 'classes' of fantasy roleplaying. That example you provided seems too specific though. And sounds weird. Edited by Arcvalons, January 26, 2013, 1:57 pm.
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| Onime No Ryu | January 26, 2013, 2:05 pm Post #44 |
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Well yeah but can they have powers that specific? Or I guess a better way of putting it is, can they have powers that aren't just "shoot my element at you," "punch you," or "cause a status effect/heal you/etc." |
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| Arcvalons | January 26, 2013, 2:09 pm Post #45 |
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I suppose. But you would have to explain how it works very well in your CC. |
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| Onime No Ryu | January 26, 2013, 5:53 pm Post #46 |
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So since no one else but me and NTNP apparently wants to post in Lost Kingdom and Kaze's zombie thing is dead, when are you launching this? |
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| Arcvalons | January 27, 2013, 9:30 am Post #47 |
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Ehhhhh. Well first NT must post his RP |
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| Onime No Ryu | January 27, 2013, 9:40 am Post #48 |
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Can we at least get a character sheet? |
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| NTNP | January 27, 2013, 12:28 pm Post #49 |
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@BO: Thank you for your consideration! |
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