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Star Wars Mafia: Day 7
Topic Started: Friday 20-08-2010, 03:05 (11,722 Views)
Curtis
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BoctorBoda
Monday 23-08-2010, 05:16
I hope someone got some intel last night, because I still don't know who to shoot. I'm not sold against Paul really. He's always been scatterbrained as Town. I'm more suspicious of DocAwe and Budd tbh.

And while Aspen/robman's inactivity is annoying and isn't helping matters, our numbers are getting too thin for us to lynch just on that. We need to hit scum today.
Boc you've been telling me on AIM all weekend that you're not suspicious of DocAwe and you think the reasoning for lynching him is stupid!

Why the change of heart?
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Curtis
Monday 23-08-2010, 05:22
BoctorBoda
Monday 23-08-2010, 05:16
I hope someone got some intel last night, because I still don't know who to shoot. I'm not sold against Paul really. He's always been scatterbrained as Town. I'm more suspicious of DocAwe and Budd tbh.

And while Aspen/robman's inactivity is annoying and isn't helping matters, our numbers are getting too thin for us to lynch just on that. We need to hit scum today.
Boc you've been telling me on AIM all weekend that you're not suspicious of DocAwe and you think the reasoning for lynching him is stupid!

Why the change of heart?
After rereading his posts his defense seems kind of wonky! I thought the reasons for LYNCHING him were, silly, yes (especially over TLG who was acting WAY more fishy), but I basically have a finger of suspicion pointed at him. I don't have any evidence to actually shoot at him for. I'd just like to hear more from him
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Monday 23-08-2010, 05:16
ASPEN YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD. You post ONE, ONE fucking time in this mafia, and NOW you just burst in saying lynch paul? YOU ARE FUCKING SCUM
##Shoot Aspen.
Did BSRJ just call me a retard? Did I read that right?
I wish you wouldn't look at me like that Napoleon.
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Budd
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Right now I'm between DocAwe and Paul. Paul's behavior has been off, and there was the whole thing of holes being poked in his reasoning, etc. etc. but at the same time, I do feel like if Curtis was right, then there's a good chance that he would have been night killed last night, sacrificing the one scum to keep him from being able to stick around and oust the others. As he was not night killed, there's a chance that he was kept alive so that he could keep pointing fingers at innocents. Obviously this is all assuming he's actually town, as there's still the possibility of him being mafia out there as well.

DocAwe on the other hand like I said in the previous day's discussion possibly just a little bit too late gave a bullshit sounding excuse, and his whole post on being called out for lurking was :| at best, and he pushed for lynching inactives in a game where sporadic voters really do more harm than inactives.

Not casting a vote either way yet though. I don't want to skew odds by not following an agreed upon train and lynching someone who might be innocent like tlg did with ff. Also don't want to push someone somewhat close to getting a majority of the votes before they even get a chance to speak up for themselves. Not to mention seeing as all the players who have posted didn't really mention anything about what happened at night, I'll assume that those who have spoken don't have any intel yet, and as boc said, it would be nice to get some of that.
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Another thing to consider, since we don't have any reveals on the night kills is who's dead so far.

We've got simplton, who after quitting and having his role reassigned can be regarded as a regular storm trooper since that role is still (possibly) in the game.

Henry was third party, and it's good to have him out of the picture.

VB is gone and we're pretty sure she was a regular stormtrooper, though maybe she was able to pull off some manner of lie.

Helios was Darth Vader. Only town power that we know is dead.

FF and TLG both died yesterday, regular troopers.

Citizen died last night, role unknown.

Now on this entire list, we've got zero dead scum. In the best case scenario for town losses, the two night kills were nilla troopers. Which means we've still got three left and we're down only one power role, the night kill. Worst case scenario obviously is that both unknown deaths were power roles and we're down our vig as well as two other useful roles (even if they were in the hands of people who wouldn't use them properly.)

Worst case scenario, luke has found leia and we are dealing with five mafia still. What's more, if any of the remaining town power roles fucks up with who they target, she will kill them. Not incredibly sure how to deal with this, cause as long as one of our two is still alive, we should, you know, be scanning to find mafias.

Last REALLY important thing to consider with all this - there's only 12 players left alive right now. Assuming the worst case scenario is true and leia is active, then that means if we lynch town tonight, mafia will be able to pick one more person off tonight and it'll be five of each and the mafia will have won the game at that point unless of course the doctor is not only still alive but VERY lucky in who they chose to protect. For this reason, I do think that we should hold off on voting for paul at all anymore just in case the hammer gets thrown before there's ample time for discussion to either prove his innocence or to bring a much more solid lead to the table other than "paul's acting fishy." However, if nothing more comes to light, voting him might be the best bet we have when the clock starts to tick down.
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Id say Jeff is acting way more fishy then Paul, jeff hasnt said anything of value and has just bandwagoned. If im correct hes already tried to shoot at like 4-5 people already who were being accused of something

Jeff did this a lot in the last game when we both played mafia so the pattern fits

I do think Paul is town, i dont think he is playing any different then when he has played town so id say it would be a mistake to shoot him
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Budd
Monday 23-08-2010, 09:55
Right now I'm between DocAwe and Paul. Paul's behavior has been off, and there was the whole thing of holes being poked in his reasoning, etc. etc. but at the same time, I do feel like if Curtis was right, then there's a good chance that he would have been night killed last night, sacrificing the one scum to keep him from being able to stick around and oust the others. As he was not night killed, there's a chance that he was kept alive so that he could keep pointing fingers at innocents. Obviously this is all assuming he's actually town, as there's still the possibility of him being mafia out there as well.
Yes, this is exactly what I told you on AIM last night!

Whenever someones being very vocal and accusing another big player, I always keep them both alive. So mafia could very well be keeping me alive because I'm doing wrong finger pointing for them and they're all laughing at me

However! Like I've said a bunch of times, there was no reason for them to kill me last night. The power would go to Boc like I said and even if he's mafia he'd have to use it how the rest of us wanted or else he'd be lynched. I wasn't a bigger target last night than anyone else

Plus lets look at who the mafia has killed. Vanilla Bear and Citizen, with major lynch trains (probably mafia controlled) leading against Henry and TLG. I like this mafia. They're not killing off the more active players like me, Boc, Paul, Budd, etc. They may have had reasons for killing VB and Citizen, but I like to think they're just keeping the "bigger" players in the game because its a lot more fun, which it is
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Curtis
Monday 23-08-2010, 17:29
However! Like I've said a bunch of times, there was no reason for them to kill me last night. The power would go to Boc like I said and even if he's mafia he'd have to use it how the rest of us wanted or else he'd be lynched. I wasn't a bigger target last night than anyone else
Their biggest reason to kill you last night would have been if you were right about Paul. If leia got found, then it would be all the more important to keep you alive to point the finger at the wrong person because chances are, they'll have equal numbers after a night kill.

I'd almost say to look at the people who voted Paul - or in TLG's words:

CURTIS. JEFF. ASPEN. AT LEAST ONE OF THESE GUYS IS MAFIA.

Right now, I would lean more towards Jeff of Aspen, largely because the both of them kind of quickly put their votes in once curtis started the train, even though curtis's train on Paul was based on literally no new information other than nothing proving him wrong during the night phase. What's more, they kind of just voted for paul, nothing else.

Then again, since docawe is suspicious, he could just be LONG CONNING us anyways, though his post does make at least some manner of sense unlike his bad excuse for lurking.
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I really don't quite grasp what you're saying, Budd. Paul isn't mafia because Curtis is still alive? Generally, if someone is being vocal about their suspicions of someone, that person, right OR wrong, has a good chance of surviving to the next day.

If the person is wrong, the mafia keeps them around to laugh at and so the two can point fingers and push on each other back and forth to distract from the real scum in the game.

If the person is RIGHT about their suspicions, however, the mafia will generally not kill them because that kill is basically the CONFIRMATION the Town needs about the motives of the accuser. The person being killed basically confirms them as town (whether there was a role reveal upon death or not, mafia generally doesn't pick itself off), and it points an even LARGER finger at the person they were pointing out and the points they made.

That said, I'm still extremely suspicious of Paul. The arguments he's made have been erratic and :| and as far as I can see the biggest case is against him right now. Since he isn't hear right now and I would be putting him in the hot seat with 2 votes left to majority, I'll keep my vote to myself for now.
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SHIT FF fuck you dumb bitch

*dies*
A STRONG HATER OF THE DUCK AND DOG COMBO!!!!!!!

Michael- Ive Been hiding in the bushes watching everything. I see Boone get carried away.
Michael- I pop out of the bushes. Sun Sayid. Im I glad to see you. Whats going on things are crazy. I got an idea. Im gonna be a spy and try to get Boone back on our side. How does that sound. Its dangerous but Ill do it.

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This discussion is overwhelming!
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I still have no idea what to say.
"Uhhh...well guys instead of ousting the gays of our forum let's oust some scum!" - Curtis

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Malion
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8 hours remain.

Likelihood of death
Paul: 75%
Aspen: 25%
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Likelihood of successful counterattack if killed
Paul: 25%
Aspen: 50%
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Wait, shouldn't that say "Aspen", Mal?
"Uhhh...well guys instead of ousting the gays of our forum let's oust some scum!" - Curtis

"fuck spelling i'm high" ~Ribs

Sorceress #Grim had sex with Johnny Depp in the Dark Room. Such a Seductress!

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(: Actually yes.
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