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Do Not Use Snaplink!; DC rule change
Topic Started: November 28, 2008, 11:21 pm (5,957 Views)
Firstborn Dragon November 28, 2008, 11:21 pm Post #1
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 TJ is asking users to NOT use Snaplinks. The post was posted on the DC forums this morning. So I am asking all players to please cease using Snaplinks in the hatchery.

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Addons that allow you to mass-click several links at once have proliferated throughout the site. They seem to have two primary uses, both of which cause problems:

Clicking lots of eggs at once
Sure, with Snap Links you can click nearly every single egg in the DC fansite at once. But have you stopped to think of what that does to the server? You're sending dozens of requests simultaneously and your browser expects the server to respond to them ASAP. The server is only capable of handling finite amounts of simultaneous requests, and if you have tons active tags, you're only contributing to server lag.

On the abandoned page or at an egg drop
Snap Links also helps you get eggs. Just visit the abandoned egg page, snap-link all of the eggs, and you're practically guaranteed to get at least one egg (or two or four). Now, not only does this create the same problem as stated above, but it also is unfair to others. Many if not most people are stuck with clicking eggs one at a time and hoping that they get one, while with snap-clicks you can get multiple eggs in one go. It's practically cheating.

I am entirely prepared to implement restrictions that will prevent the use of mass-clickers (The code is ready and tested), but I'd rather try asking nicely first.

So: Please do not use mass clickers such as snap links in order to click many dragons at once or in order to make it easier to get eggs.


The full link can be found here: Snaplinks and other Mass Click Addons
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ExplorerBabe November 29, 2008, 12:39 pm Post #2
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 I personally think it's bull. I can see not using it to get eggs as it is kinda cheating, and I can never get the eggs I want because of severe lag, but when egg clicking sharing sites start instituting the same thing it's stupid, especially when you are required to click a certain amount of eggs a week. I have better things to do with my limited internet time then endlessly clicking enough eggs to reach some site's quota, it is starting to make this game not fun anymore. While I do promise I will not use them on the DC site, anywhere else is fair game

And I do mean that last quote as I think the new rule about the click minimum is ridiculous, I only come here when I have eggs to drop, and I'll click then. I do have a life and spending every day here clicking eggs is not going to happen, so if using a snaplink helps me reach my quota, so be it.

I wish I could have posted this on the DC forum before the topic was closed :(

Edited by ExplorerBabe, November 29, 2008, 12:57 pm.
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Arwen17 November 29, 2008, 1:37 pm Post #3
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 I managed to post my opinion before the thing was closed. TJ modified his first post though. The first post in the thread originally had what Firstborn Dragon quoted up there, but now it just says "lol" ??? sooo...is he reconsidering or what?
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mamaursula November 29, 2008, 1:54 pm Post #4

So, I'm a little (lot) naive about this stuff. Does this mean that this site will be closing down then? I am assuming that the big page posts are considered Snap Links? If that is incorrect, what does it mean for us in general?
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Arwen17 November 29, 2008, 2:12 pm Post #5
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 i think if the way the site works is changed then it can still remain, but its no longer allowed to post all dragons on one page. daily dragon fix still works.
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sprootles November 29, 2008, 2:16 pm Post #6
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 So...we not only have a quote of clicks each week that is very time consuming when done one by one, but we're not allowed to use Snap Links to make it easier and still contribute? I find this very frustrating.

I can totally understand not using Snaplinks to grab eggs, but I think this entire banning of the use of Snaplinks to click in the hatchery is asking a bit much. I have a life that doesn't center around clicking dragon eggs, even if I do find it fun.

I really don't understand this.
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flyswatter November 29, 2008, 2:25 pm Post #7

so I can't use a snaplink to click on hundreds of eggs in the hatchery? That blows, if it's true.

I don't use the snaplink add-on on the Dragon Cave site at all - I don't want all the eggs! Can TJ track when we click on multiple eggs in hatcheries using snaplink?
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Deleted User November 29, 2008, 2:44 pm Post #8
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 I do not use SnapLink, nor do I even know what it is. I come here off and on each day to click eggs/hatchlings, even it if was just 25 at a time.

I amso noticed that DC dragon images are now banned from here. Will this ever be reversed?
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Laughingvampire November 29, 2008, 3:29 pm Post #9
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 I guess all clicks will not be recorded now since where are not able to click dragons anymore, since the pictures/dragons are banned from the automated hatchery....
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elixabeth November 29, 2008, 4:40 pm Post #10

maybe if it's not all on one page he would unban the images? or it might just be a glitch, i've seen it before. :/

but i agree with what is quoted, because if someone uses snaplinks in the hatchery, then it's slowing dragcave down ALOT more then if they go and click them one at a time.
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Gabey8 November 29, 2008, 4:44 pm Post #11

TJ doesn't want people using Snap Links on the DC site itself, which is understandable. People can use it to cheat their way into getting eggs that way,

But as for the hatcheries, I find it to be a godsend. I don't mind reducing the number of clicks per attempt, say using it for only one or two lines at a time, but I would hate to give up on using it altogether when I'm trying to click in the hatchery,
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Deleted User November 29, 2008, 5:35 pm Post #12
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 Until we are able to use the Hatchery again, will this effect our required "100 clicks per week"? How will this effect our membership here?

I, personally, love this site and do not want to be dropped as a member due to not being able to click on eggs/hatchlings while this issue is getting fixed.

NOTE: I ONLY clicked one at a time when I was able to.
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wee.zee November 29, 2008, 7:40 pm Post #13
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Snaplinks aren't allowed here anymore, but that doesn't really matter right now as the hatchery is BANNED for some reason. We're trying to get it worked out, and if it has to do with SnapLinks AFTER I banned SL TJ said SnapLinks were not to be used, I will NOT be a happy camper.
Edited by wee.zee, November 30, 2008, 2:31 am.
Please, read the Board Rules, ICU Rules, Chat Rules, & the FAQ before you do anything.

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Buri288 November 29, 2008, 8:41 pm Post #14

I consider snaplinks really useful, especially with that new 100 click rule for the Auto Hatchery.
Obviously using it to get eggs for yourself is bad, and unfair, but as far as the AH goes it's much less time consuming to use it then going through each individual one. :/
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Deleted User November 29, 2008, 8:47 pm Post #15
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 I have never used snaplinks. I think it works nicely just to use right-mouse click and open in new tab. If you use an extra browser window, you can then close the window with the tabs after several dozen clicks, too.

By the way, you might distribute the eggs/hatchies over several pages as then loding the page doesn't put as much strain on TJ's server. If you rotate, say 100-250 eggs each, they still should get views, but the stress in TJ's server should diminuish. Maybe suggest him something like that.
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ExplorerBabe November 29, 2008, 10:35 pm Post #16
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November 29, 2008, 7:40 pm
Snaplinks aren't allowed here anymore, but that doesn't really matter right now as the hatchery is BANNED. We're trying to get it worked out, and if it has to do with SnapLinks AFTER I banned SL I will NOT be a happy camper.
Then you are going to have a lot of unhappy people if you ban snaplinks, why the hell should any of us spend endless days clicking eggs to meet the quota you decided on

If you are having so much problems than someone here may not know what they are doing. I have experience with websites and run two of my own.

The fact of the matter is that the problem with the new hatchery is either you don't have enough bandwidth to cover the thousands of hits this site gets or you need a better server, both which cost money.

Boards like this are so easy anyone could make one. Try writing a site all in code and then come talk to me, I've done it
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Reedie November 29, 2008, 10:47 pm Post #17
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 If the hatchery is a click exchange site, then why is it such a problem if snaplinks slow down the server? The main reason for the hatchery is to spread clicks around, and that's what snaplinks do that efficiently.
Edited by Reedie, November 29, 2008, 10:58 pm.
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Firstborn Dragon November 29, 2008, 11:01 pm Post #18
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 People this is NOT about ERHQ, this is about the DC serves. The DC servers CANNOT deal with everyone using SL.

TJ made the rule, all members who play DC are expected to abide by it. In short, it dosen't matter how much you complain the rule on snap links WILL NOT and CAN NOT be revoked by anyone here, myself and WZ included.
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wee.zee November 29, 2008, 11:06 pm Post #19
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ExplorerBabe
November 29, 2008, 10:35 pm
wee.zee
November 29, 2008, 7:40 pm
Snaplinks aren't allowed here anymore, but that doesn't really matter right now as the hatchery is BANNED. We're trying to get it worked out, and if it has to do with SnapLinks AFTER I banned SL I will NOT be a happy camper.
Then you are going to have a lot of unhappy people if you ban snaplinks, why the hell should any of us spend endless days clicking eggs to meet the quota you decided on

If you are having so much problems than someone here may not know what they are doing. I have experience with websites and run two of my own.

The fact of the matter is that the problem with the new hatchery is either you don't have enough bandwidth to cover the thousands of hits this site gets or you need a better server, both which cost money.

Boards like this are so easy anyone could make one. Try writing a site all in code and then come talk to me, I've done it
It is NOT me who decided on this NO Snaplinks thing. It is TJ! So, don't gripe at me. As for the lag on the hatchery, again that is DC not US. The hatchery is full of images from DC, so just THINK about it. >.>
Please, read the Board Rules, ICU Rules, Chat Rules, & the FAQ before you do anything.

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ExplorerBabe November 29, 2008, 11:56 pm Post #20
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November 29, 2008, 11:06 pm
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It is NOT me who decided on this NO Snaplinks thing. It is TJ! So, don't gripe at me. As for the lag on the hatchery, again that is DC not US. The hatchery is full of images from DC, so just THINK about it. >.>
The funny thing is is there is no lag here while I get horrendous lag at DC and I have a cable connection. Oh well, I guess we all can't get pleased right? ^_^
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Heiroglyphica November 30, 2008, 12:39 am Post #21
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 I don't think there's even a version of snaplinks available for my version of FF, so I don't have it. There are times when I'd like to use it, but I can definitely see TJ's point. Considering the lag the site gets from things like all the abandoneds and the masses going for special event dragons like the autumns, having people spontaneously clicking dozens of eggs could be a pain.

I'll just stick to clicking a dozen or so in a row, closing out, then doing it again. ^.^;
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RyuArashi November 30, 2008, 1:18 am Post #22
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 Lol...so much for this having been a fun dragon site >.> I can understand banning it from clicking eggs in the actual site, but here? Comeon >.>
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wee.zee November 30, 2008, 1:24 am Post #23
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November 30, 2008, 1:18 am
Lol...so much for this having been a fun dragon site >.> I can understand banning it from clicking eggs in the actual site, but here? Comeon >.>
Do you not understand that it hurts the servers when 100's of tabs/windows are requesting info from the DC site at once? That is why it's banned no other reason.
Please, read the Board Rules, ICU Rules, Chat Rules, & the FAQ before you do anything.

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Deleted User November 30, 2008, 1:24 am Post #24
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 Well Snaplinks doesn't mean anything to me...I've NEVER even heard of it.

So I guess I'm not missing out on anything then.

Wish we knew whats goin on with the hatchery & when it'll be fixed.
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Firstborn Dragon November 30, 2008, 1:30 am Post #25
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November 30, 2008, 1:18 am
Lol...so much for this having been a fun dragon site >.> I can understand banning it from clicking eggs in the actual site, but here? Comeon >.>
Okay think for a moment. Every single dragon image out there is LINKED to a DC page.

When you use snaplinks you are hitting the DC server for 10s or 100s of requests for info at ONCE!

Now, given there are over 10K players, if even HALF of them use SLs, then that's over 500K requests AT ONCE!

It is NOT ERHQ that is BOTHERED by this, but the DRAGON CAVE SERVERS! SNAP LINKS REQUESTS ALL THESE LINKS SIMULTANEOUSLY!
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