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| aoberaz | September 6, 2010, 7:15 pm Post #101 |
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Am I the only one loathing the idea that this RP is going to end before it even gets a chance to start? Zeitmann might be the head honcho of his own mob, that but does not mean he has a private army at his disposal, unlimited funds, and an absolute iron wall of defense protecting him. He's willfully firing the first shot that -will- result in a mob war and pretty much destroy any chance of exploring our concepts in anything other than an RP where they have to fear constant violent deaths. Hell, mine is a character made for this kind of situation and I'm admitting that this one is in a bad way. Personally, I refuse to believe that a man clever and pragmatic enough to control a city-wide network of mobsters AND and an international business would intentionally put his daughter at risk when he's spent his entire life trying to shelter her from this exact kind of danger.
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| The Warlord | September 6, 2010, 8:16 pm Post #102 |
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I thought it was clear he wanted a mob war from the beginning.... *shrugs* The way you're phrasing it is that ZeitCo is the inferior mob and that they'll succomb to whatever Faust will throw at them, rather then two massive oppossing forces with equal manpower. I especially like how this is basically Zeitmann's worst nightmare, only the roles are reversed. Plus, people tend to snap. I'm very much enjoying this ride. |
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King of Wackatopia: "I'll guarantee your safety, give you meaning, give you knowledge and something to believe in for the low cost of your personal freedom." Fang: "Look at you, you're gorgeous, you're beautiful, and when i look into your beautiful eyes all I see is this magnificent elegant creature, full of grace, full of strength. You're mesmerizing. You're intoxicating. I want you near me. I want to indulge you." Ryan: "If my survival means the death of innocents, then so be it" Kyliden: "This one is strong. He's brave and takes what he needs. He's a better werewolf then i could ever wish to be." Diego: "I can't control what i feel, querida mia. This spark will become a big lively fire. It will consume me, it will consume you and everyone around us, and once nothing is left, new life will spring eternal." Wade: "She made me love her before she sired me. She wanted a companion, a friend, a lover to indulge her throughout the centuries. Her demise filled me with emptiness; she was to give me a purpose and now I'm alone." | |
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| aoberaz | September 6, 2010, 9:02 pm Post #103 |
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Right, you want to turn this into an action RP? Fine. I'm out. I am absolutely, under no circumstances, interested in a series of brawling stories between the two powers. Particularly one controlled by a megalomaniac psychopath who manages to have his ninja automatons stashed EVERYFUCKINGWHERE. As I told Iris already, I was expecting something with SUBTLETY and INTRIGUE, maybe even a little passive aggressive dialog between the two parties. If all I wanted was to continue blowing people's texty little brains out I would have made a hitman, not a bodyguard. And as for two super powers being evenly matched and colliding, you don't seem to understand, despite the fact that you claim this is Zimmerman's worst nightmare turned around to a wonderful dream. The point I was trying to make was that desperate men make desperate actions, and with no proper chain of command (which you destroyed by kidnapping the closest thing we've been given to an enemy mob boss) they cannot be controlled. Be grateful this isn't one of my RPs, because I guarantee you there would be a half filled gasoline tanker set on fire and put on a suicide course for the Zeitmann front doors. Potential loss of an heir be damned, a mob does not stay in power long if it searches for a fight, and the lives of the many that would be lost in such a war, are more important than the lives of the few that would be lost in the example they would make out of you. Remember that, the lives of many outweigh the lives of the few. It's the general basis of most traditional mob organizations. |
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| Wicked | September 6, 2010, 9:41 pm Post #104 |
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X.x Edit: Now that I'm reading the posts, I have to say that this is going WAY too fast. Already ZeitCo wants to stop using the mob? I'm starting to think of ways to get the FaustCo heir out of that house for the sake of this rp. It really doesn't make sense for this power move to happen before anything has occurred to trigger it... What's happening now seems like it's been misplaced and should happen in a few weeks, not at the start of the roleplay. Edited by Wicked, September 6, 2010, 9:46 pm.
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| Iris | September 6, 2010, 9:50 pm Post #105 |
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Understood Paradox, I was planning that an escape or rescue happen within the next couple of posts. Lets consider this drama an introduction of the characters to each other and nothing to drive the plot other than make them aware of each other. |
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| Wicked | September 6, 2010, 10:02 pm Post #106 |
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Alrighty. |
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| aoberaz | September 6, 2010, 10:04 pm Post #107 |
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At the risk of sounding conceited, thank you. I'm glad someone agrees with me on that part at least. My main problem aside from what was beginning to feel like a post war between Wackman and myself, was the rapidity with which the rp was turning from a mobster movie to one of action. As I demonstrated in my very first post, I'm not adverse to violence, but I build my concept to -avoid- conflict where possible. I didn't want to see this RP be reduced to a series of organized attack and defense scenes with the streets running red with blood almost as soon as the rp started. In particular because it would basically make it next to impossible to interact with Evangeline, who is pretty much all alone on her side of the tracks. |
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| Evangelion Bot | September 6, 2010, 10:52 pm Post #108 |
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...I was under the impression FaustMob would send someone to intercept the delivery, but since apparently that is not so...would anyone mind me changing my post to having more resistance, and then Martens returning to the warehouse? |
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| Iris | September 7, 2010, 1:31 am Post #109 |
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oh go ahead Evangelion. whatever you have to do. |
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| The Warlord | September 7, 2010, 9:59 pm Post #110 |
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I think this is my third attempt at trying to post here. I need to address the issue, but I can’t seem to do so without being petty and mean. I’ll start with this. I’m sorry I don’t plan ahead. I can easily interpret the actions that my characters do and say as ‘planned’ but in reality I just tend to go with the flow, and maybe give it a nudge, or push in this case. I will explain why I wrote some of the things, I did and why. The first is obvious: the ninja mob. I admit wholeheartedly. I went too far with it. HOWEVER, It was your fault aoberaz. Really, you established that Sophia’s security was just two newbie mooks?! REALLY?! That really, really, REALLY affected me. I’m an emotional guy, I couldn’t let that slide. I established Zeitmann as an overprotective father who “watched his daughter grow up even if he wasn’t present”. It was already established in the bio that he was looking over her using hidden cameras. I wasn’t being poetic when I wrote that, I was being literal. No, I‘m sorry. It wasn’t the TWO mooks, but rather that he BEAT THEM UP! How am I supposed to react?! Why would Lake still be alive after pulling that super idiotic stunt?! Did he want to get whacked?! Why wouldn’t he be whacked?! You showed insubordination and you team-attacked. You don’t attack your own team. Why couldn’t you have said you were in charge of security from the get-go? Or you were just the new guy? Why was it necessary to attack them? I HAD to recon the simple two mooks and widen that security. Going too far with it is my fault, but really.. I would really REALLY like to hear your excuse for attacking them mister subtlety and intrigue…erhh… intriguery… It’s not like I’ll abuse them. Zeitmann needs his computer, which is in his office, and he’s not in his office. Would you really trust any non full-blooded Germans in your mob? I don’t think so. Capturing Faust: That was on a whim. I figured it was just too poetic to have Zeitmann have a “reverse nightmare”. I did not think it through, that is the truth. I admit it, I’m not perfect. Gosh, I call myself Wackman would I be mister perfection? I thought it would make it action-y, which again. I thought was what you wanted, seeing as you attacked your own mob expecting... A promotion? (I’ll try and let it go, but I really…REALLY can’t.) Now for the rest… This isn’t a traditional mob! We’re talking Germans and French! They’re not Italians! Hell, German mob would be all German and very nazi-is: discipline and no place for insubordination. (I thought that would be pushing it, but frankly would it really?) While the French mob would be masters of mind games, they are very eloquent and creative and aloof. This isn’t the Italian Sicilian mob, this isn’t the Russian mob. We’re talking Germans and French. Would a Frenchman really sacrifice his boss’ heir? (No, he’d surrender immediately consider his enemy is German XP) Je suis français, alors je peux me permettre de m’en moquer. *I’m french so i allow myself to mock them*Iris is currently the one to decide what and how the French Mob will react. As for the other Faust member, I was thinking of having Martens capture her too. Make it a family reunion. Why not? Maybe next time you want subtlety and intrigue you WON’T ATTACK YOUR OWN TEAM! I need a drink… I’ve been obsessing about this post since I read it this morning. This is the nicest post I have thus far. THIS! I’m very sorry for my immaturity. I’ll admit, I’m not being a grown up here, but that thing that hurt the most… is that you didn’t come to me first. You didn’t say to me I was going too far, you went to Iris which in turn told me. Now I could’ve done the same with the two mooks, and the team-attacking but it seemed so petty I kept it in. I know it’s petty, and I keep mentioning it, but it’s just… wow… So let’s just, you know… Chill and stop overdramatizing the situation. The milk is spilled. How ‘bout we start cleaning this mess up? I made the mess, but I seem to lack a tissue (don’t you love metaphors?) |
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King of Wackatopia: "I'll guarantee your safety, give you meaning, give you knowledge and something to believe in for the low cost of your personal freedom." Fang: "Look at you, you're gorgeous, you're beautiful, and when i look into your beautiful eyes all I see is this magnificent elegant creature, full of grace, full of strength. You're mesmerizing. You're intoxicating. I want you near me. I want to indulge you." Ryan: "If my survival means the death of innocents, then so be it" Kyliden: "This one is strong. He's brave and takes what he needs. He's a better werewolf then i could ever wish to be." Diego: "I can't control what i feel, querida mia. This spark will become a big lively fire. It will consume me, it will consume you and everyone around us, and once nothing is left, new life will spring eternal." Wade: "She made me love her before she sired me. She wanted a companion, a friend, a lover to indulge her throughout the centuries. Her demise filled me with emptiness; she was to give me a purpose and now I'm alone." | |
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| Evangelion Bot | September 8, 2010, 3:35 am Post #111 |
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Hmm, with Martens I was going for a character who had the ruthless discipline and cold mercilessness of the 'German' mob you have put forth, as well as the tradition and respect of the Italian-American mobs. |
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| The Warlord | September 8, 2010, 10:06 am Post #112 |
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Well, ran out of time. I'll finish my post when i get back from work. |
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King of Wackatopia: "I'll guarantee your safety, give you meaning, give you knowledge and something to believe in for the low cost of your personal freedom." Fang: "Look at you, you're gorgeous, you're beautiful, and when i look into your beautiful eyes all I see is this magnificent elegant creature, full of grace, full of strength. You're mesmerizing. You're intoxicating. I want you near me. I want to indulge you." Ryan: "If my survival means the death of innocents, then so be it" Kyliden: "This one is strong. He's brave and takes what he needs. He's a better werewolf then i could ever wish to be." Diego: "I can't control what i feel, querida mia. This spark will become a big lively fire. It will consume me, it will consume you and everyone around us, and once nothing is left, new life will spring eternal." Wade: "She made me love her before she sired me. She wanted a companion, a friend, a lover to indulge her throughout the centuries. Her demise filled me with emptiness; she was to give me a purpose and now I'm alone." | |
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| aoberaz | September 8, 2010, 6:30 pm Post #113 |
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I'm willing to let bygones go by. But I'm not going to answer your in character questions (or rather, the same question reiterated about half a dozen times) for the same reason I didn't come to you about yours. There are only two things that get me worked up about an RP or game, God-modding, and Meta-gaming. Doubtless some would call them the same thing, but they would be wrong. If you want to know the character's motives, bring it up in character appropriately. |
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| The Warlord | September 8, 2010, 9:24 pm Post #114 |
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I actually was, i just... kind of hesitated... I mean, i brought it up so many times i thought it would be overkill, guess I'll add it in, to make it offical in the in-game universe. I did think of some sort of plan, i of course, will need to get the DM's permission. It's a bit... big... |
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King of Wackatopia: "I'll guarantee your safety, give you meaning, give you knowledge and something to believe in for the low cost of your personal freedom." Fang: "Look at you, you're gorgeous, you're beautiful, and when i look into your beautiful eyes all I see is this magnificent elegant creature, full of grace, full of strength. You're mesmerizing. You're intoxicating. I want you near me. I want to indulge you." Ryan: "If my survival means the death of innocents, then so be it" Kyliden: "This one is strong. He's brave and takes what he needs. He's a better werewolf then i could ever wish to be." Diego: "I can't control what i feel, querida mia. This spark will become a big lively fire. It will consume me, it will consume you and everyone around us, and once nothing is left, new life will spring eternal." Wade: "She made me love her before she sired me. She wanted a companion, a friend, a lover to indulge her throughout the centuries. Her demise filled me with emptiness; she was to give me a purpose and now I'm alone." | |
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| Iris | September 8, 2010, 9:50 pm Post #115 |
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If you have an idea, certainly share it.
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| The Warlord | September 8, 2010, 11:24 pm Post #116 |
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There, written now simply awaiting approval. edit: I'll just post it now so i can sleep. If you people disagree, then don't post and say you disagree so i can properly edit. okay?! Edited by The Warlord, September 8, 2010, 11:50 pm.
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King of Wackatopia: "I'll guarantee your safety, give you meaning, give you knowledge and something to believe in for the low cost of your personal freedom." Fang: "Look at you, you're gorgeous, you're beautiful, and when i look into your beautiful eyes all I see is this magnificent elegant creature, full of grace, full of strength. You're mesmerizing. You're intoxicating. I want you near me. I want to indulge you." Ryan: "If my survival means the death of innocents, then so be it" Kyliden: "This one is strong. He's brave and takes what he needs. He's a better werewolf then i could ever wish to be." Diego: "I can't control what i feel, querida mia. This spark will become a big lively fire. It will consume me, it will consume you and everyone around us, and once nothing is left, new life will spring eternal." Wade: "She made me love her before she sired me. She wanted a companion, a friend, a lover to indulge her throughout the centuries. Her demise filled me with emptiness; she was to give me a purpose and now I'm alone." | |
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| Evangelion Bot | September 9, 2010, 12:08 am Post #117 |
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What exactly are the items in the package and what do they do? @_@ I have to know so I can respond. |
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| aoberaz | September 9, 2010, 1:22 am Post #118 |
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I'm pretty sure they're the random crap they took off Faust, any number of which might be bugged. But again, the idea that those in the house are now safe is a imprudent. I'm not saying I don't agree with it, I'm just saying that it's an obvious move, and if it were made against me I would attack both locations. |
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| Wicked | September 9, 2010, 1:56 am Post #119 |
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Hmm, I will attempt to lost either later tonight or tomorrow morning since right now I'm not feeling really good X.x Edit: Posting. Or should I wait for Iris? Edited by Wicked, September 9, 2010, 4:42 am.
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| aoberaz | September 9, 2010, 5:49 am Post #120 |
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I say you post. I'm sure she won't fault you for it. |
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| Wicked | September 9, 2010, 6:35 am Post #121 |
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Posted~ Love when I can finally make some moves of my own. I always feel like I'm just followin' people. |
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| aoberaz | September 9, 2010, 11:29 pm Post #122 |
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Agreed. Independent actions are what forms a solid concept. |
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| The Warlord | September 13, 2010, 10:19 pm Post #123 |
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Excuse the delays. I was dead tired Friday... then i went out all of Saturday.... was too sore and hungover sunday.....Now I,m okay, and working on my post. There are SOOOO many things to address. >_< I must... make it... coherent. I might just be a huge paragraph of just Zeitmann talking, and lecturing... bleh Oh yeah, I want permission to have Zeitmann pistol whip Reiser before i can post. Edited by The Warlord, September 13, 2010, 11:00 pm.
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King of Wackatopia: "I'll guarantee your safety, give you meaning, give you knowledge and something to believe in for the low cost of your personal freedom." Fang: "Look at you, you're gorgeous, you're beautiful, and when i look into your beautiful eyes all I see is this magnificent elegant creature, full of grace, full of strength. You're mesmerizing. You're intoxicating. I want you near me. I want to indulge you." Ryan: "If my survival means the death of innocents, then so be it" Kyliden: "This one is strong. He's brave and takes what he needs. He's a better werewolf then i could ever wish to be." Diego: "I can't control what i feel, querida mia. This spark will become a big lively fire. It will consume me, it will consume you and everyone around us, and once nothing is left, new life will spring eternal." Wade: "She made me love her before she sired me. She wanted a companion, a friend, a lover to indulge her throughout the centuries. Her demise filled me with emptiness; she was to give me a purpose and now I'm alone." | |
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| aoberaz | September 13, 2010, 11:26 pm Post #124 |
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yeah, no. Lake isn't going to stand there and let himself be smashed over the head with a gun. Blow his brains out or something if you want to punish him, but starting a chain of abuse isn't something he'll allow. |
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| The Warlord | September 13, 2010, 11:32 pm Post #125 |
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Not even ONE hit? |
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King of Wackatopia: "I'll guarantee your safety, give you meaning, give you knowledge and something to believe in for the low cost of your personal freedom." Fang: "Look at you, you're gorgeous, you're beautiful, and when i look into your beautiful eyes all I see is this magnificent elegant creature, full of grace, full of strength. You're mesmerizing. You're intoxicating. I want you near me. I want to indulge you." Ryan: "If my survival means the death of innocents, then so be it" Kyliden: "This one is strong. He's brave and takes what he needs. He's a better werewolf then i could ever wish to be." Diego: "I can't control what i feel, querida mia. This spark will become a big lively fire. It will consume me, it will consume you and everyone around us, and once nothing is left, new life will spring eternal." Wade: "She made me love her before she sired me. She wanted a companion, a friend, a lover to indulge her throughout the centuries. Her demise filled me with emptiness; she was to give me a purpose and now I'm alone." | |
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