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| shiva2 | Dec 21 2010, 06:14 AM Post #1 |
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Yesterday I stumbled across an interesting article about gays being equated to pedophiles, but before I get to that here is an article from the Daily mail. Gay rights campaigners furious as UN drops condemnation of 'sexual orientation' killings after pressure from Arab and African nations A culture war has broken out at the United Nations over whether gays should be singled out for the same protections as other minorities whose lives are threatened. The battle will come to a head tomorrow when the General Assembly votes to renew its routine condemnation of the unjustified killing of various categories of vulnerable people.It specifies killings for racial, national, ethnic, religious and linguistic reasons and includes refugees, indigenous people and other groups....... [url=Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340226/Gay-rights-campaigners-furious-UN-drops-condemnation-sexual-orientation-killings.html#ixzz18iapVEDS]Read more[/URL] Now this is what I read yesterday and the above article has prompted me to post here Bangladesh signs a treaty equating Homosexuality to pedophillia On December 18, 2008, 66 Countries signed a historic statement presented in the General Assembly that affirmed that international human rights protections include sexual orientation and gender identity, condemning rights abuses against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people. On the very same day Syria read out a treaty in response to the statement previously delivered by Argentina, claiming that there are no legal basis towards non-discrimination of the sexual minorities. This treaty had 57 signatories including Bangladesh, who denounced Homosexuality by equating it to Pedophilia. In addition this treaty refers to Article 29 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights to enact laws to uphold the puritan morality and and public behavior by denouncing Homosexuality. The treaty even hints that persecution and discriminatory legalisation against the sexual minorities should not be interferred by the International community as it falls under the Charter of sovereignty of States and priniciples of non intervention. Response to SOGI Human Rights Statement, read by Syria – 18 Dec 2008 Mr. President, I have the honor to make the following statement on behalf of Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Brunei Darussalam, Cameroon, Chad, Comoros, Cote D’Ivoire, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gambia, Guinea, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan*, Lebanon, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Rwanda, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, St. Lucia, Solomon Islands, Somalia, Sudan, Swaziland, Syria, Tajikistan, Togo, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uzbekistan*, Yemen, and Zimbabwe following the statement previously delivered by Argentina, on behalf of a group of member states on Human Rights and the so-called notions of “sexual orientation” and “gender identity”. Blah blah blah until we get to this Mr. President, in this context, we are seriously concerned at the attempt to introduce to the United Nations some notions that have no legal foundations in any international human rights instrument. We are even more disturbed at the attempt to focus on certain persons on the grounds of their sexual interests and behaviors, while ignoring that intolerance and discrimination regrettably exist in various parts of the world, be it on the basis of color, race, gender, or religion to mention only a few. Our alarm does not merely stem from concern about the lack of legal grounds, or that the said statement delves into matters which fall essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of States counter to the commitment in the United Nations Charter to respect the sovereignty of States and the principle of non-intervention. More importantly, it arises owing to the ominous usage of those two notions. The notion of orientation spans a wide range of personal choices that expand way beyond the individual’s sexual interest in copulatory behavior with normal consenting adult human beings, thereby ushering in the social normalization and possibly the legitimization of many deplorable acts including pedophilia. http://lgbtbangladesh.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/bangladesh-signs-a-treaty-equating-homosexuality-to-pedophillia/ |
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| brianoflondon | Dec 21 2010, 06:18 AM Post #2 |
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It could well be that LGBT issues present a major hurdle to the OIC takeover of the UN. Feminists have stepped out, everyone hates Jews, only group left for the OIC to bring down from Islams level of victimhood are gays! |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| shiva2 | Dec 21 2010, 06:38 AM Post #3 |
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Considering OIC is 30% of UN they are well past the tipping point, and with their economic clout they can bring non islamic nations to their side |
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| brianoflondon | Dec 21 2010, 06:57 AM Post #4 |
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Unfortunately I agree. I believe the UN needs to be broken up and replaced with a league of democratic nations. The UN is no longer fit for purpose. |
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Brian of London has been actively occupying a very small slice of hideously over-occupied Tel Aviv since early 2009. Islam is a giant bungee cord tying it's adherents to the 7th century. They can pull themselves almost to the twenty first century but eventually the cord tightens and flings them back. | |
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| dozyuk | Dec 21 2010, 06:59 AM Post #5 |
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Except - It sounds like more political masking tape over the mouth of free speech.
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 07:00 AM Post #6 |
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Remind me of a time it ever was? The EU seems to be going in the same direction.
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| slodger | Dec 21 2010, 09:17 AM Post #7 |
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I cannot believe just how mindlessly hypocrititical some of these nations are. Britain provides foreign aid to many of them out of the taxes paid by gay men and women. In particular the Afghan government is being kept in power by troops, who just by the law of averages, must include homosexuals (I have 2 mates fighting out there) and Western money. These attempts to undermine gay rights will be only the start. It won't stop at gays but will target women's rights next and so on. The association of homosexuality with child abuse is neither new nor true. Most child abuse takes place within heterosexual families. I think it is more legal than political masking tape over places other than the mouth
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 09:23 AM Post #8 |
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In the words of Pat Condell Basically the UN is no broken thanks to the Islamic nations. Sadly the people who could have done something about this, the USA have Obama in power. |
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| tobias malachi | Dec 21 2010, 10:11 AM Post #9 |
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Another good reason to form a league of none-islami nations. The UN is being hi-jacked by a single idiology and no longer serves to unite nations in a common cause |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 10:17 AM Post #10 |
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A metaphor for what is happening in Europe. |
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| dozyuk | Dec 21 2010, 10:36 AM Post #11 |
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I cant disagree with what you said, except I'd tack 'living under Sharia law' on the end of this statement. 'Most child abuse takes place within heterosexual families' |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 10:55 AM Post #12 |
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In 1990 all 56 members of the OIC repudiated the UN Declaration of Universal Human Rights. They have a separate Declaration that basically divides "universal" human rights into those rights for muslims and those rights for dhimmis. These islamic "human" rights are sharia law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam All those 56 barbaric countries should have been kicked out of the UN. Instead the supine dhimmis have kept quiet about this repudiation. It shows that in 1948 the islamic countries felt weak so they would enter into a pact. But as we know from the Koran, Mohammed permits muslims to make these promises when they feel weak, with the explicit intention of breaking them when they are strong enough. The Salman Rushdie affair was in 1989, and Britain did nothing to stand up for human rights. The establishment and the middle-class caved in. Muslims were showing they are ONE UMMAH (with British mostly sunni muslims responding to a fatwa from a shia Ayatollah in Iran). No surprise then that the muslims decided by 1990 they were strong enough to reject the UN Declaration. |
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| haydenb | Dec 21 2010, 11:39 AM Post #13 |
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Bit of a conspiracy theory, but there seems to be a lot of of Gay equality issue's such as the rights of Gays to marry in the media at the moment and being over debated. Thing is, they always role out the Christian for the religious angle and then vilify them for rather moderate views, ie I would not marry a Gay couple - fine. You never hear the views of Muslims on GAY issue's in the mainstream media, but you can tell the reason that these issues are being raised so vocally is that their is a massive dilemma for the so called tolerant, arty people who swan around in the UAF with their liberal views, the Muslim view on freedom is an elephant in the room for them and they tackle it by Christian bashing in these debates. |
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| lancastrian | Dec 21 2010, 12:02 PM Post #14 |
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very true. Something else to press the media on |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 12:16 PM Post #15 |
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The people who've been sacked for refusing to carry out gay civil partnerships have been rightly sacked. They cannot bring their religious views into a professional job. It is un-professional. Let's transpose this. In sharia law it is illegal for an Arabic woman to marry a non-Arab man (I know, it is racist). Let's take an Arabic christians who want to undergo a civil marriage in Britain to a caucasian Christian. If the person who should carry out that marriage happens to be a muslim, then under their moral code, s/he could turn round and say "I'm not marrying these two because it is against my religious beliefs". Civil partnerships are not even the equivalent of marriage. I can't remember if things have changed (as I'm not interested in the details), but certainly when they were introduced they could not be performed in religious buildings. I personally would not want any religion (well, apart from buddhism) within a mile of my relationships. Here is the elephant in the room - British muslims have zero tolerance for homosexuality: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality And as I posted a few days ago, even the so-called "moderate" mosque in Luton had documents on its website calling for gay people to be executed. http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/topic/4008103/1/#new Where is the fury of gay rights campaigners over a mosque distributing documents like that? The muslims in Luton were given £550k over two years to make them less extremist. They reported not one terrorist, they didn't report mosques calling for gay people to be executed. The fascism amongst British muslims is very pervasive. |
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| aluman | Dec 21 2010, 02:20 PM Post #16 |
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two men kissing ? no its just not right its enough to put me off my dinner
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| Capt Haddock | Dec 21 2010, 02:24 PM Post #17 |
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What about two women kissing? |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:25 PM Post #18 |
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At least you don't want to execute gay people, there is a difference. |
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| aluman | Dec 21 2010, 02:27 PM Post #19 |
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I can handle that but men are apost to be men god no ? i dont wish them harm Edited by aluman, Dec 21 2010, 02:28 PM.
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:36 PM Post #20 |
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women kissing women is as bad..dont divide the two aluman.thats the corrupt hypocritical person you are .one for all or non at all. i dont believe in men - men same with women and so on..but let me get this crystal clear with people on here...if any danger was to shown to a homosexual,lesbian or others i will stand at the side of them and defend there right. this madness of what islam is doing to every walk of life in the western world has to STOP.here and now.its pure evil. keep the faith paxi
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:37 PM Post #21 |
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We go back another 30 years. If Islam had its way, We would be going back a lot further. Religon really holds back progress, although thats just my opinion. |
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| haydenb | Dec 21 2010, 02:37 PM Post #22 |
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Good post. Do you know though, it would be something to have members of the LBGD division puckering up in front of the MDL/UAF bigots at a demo though
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:38 PM Post #23 |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:41 PM Post #24 |
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Aluman has clearly said that he doesn't wish any harm to homosexuals so let's just leave it and forget about his post. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:42 PM Post #25 |
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It has been done at EDL demos before, in front of 10 people from the mainstream media. The photos never saw the light of day. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:43 PM Post #26 |
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look at the time of his edit to my post .you playing ref by any chance watb? keep the faith paxi
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:44 PM Post #27 |
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I will openly say that coming from a working class back ground my views were probably in line with yours at some stage. Until my younger brother came out to me 13 years ago, so I had a long hard think about it and thought, do I not love him any less for being the way he is? and how privileged I felt that he told me first and felt that I would not disown him as a brother. Of course I was shocked at the time and must have sounded like a parent saying "Are you sure?". But at the end of the day he is what he is and is being true to himself, so I admire that. You read about men that try to bury who they are, get married have kids, then leave their wives, this to me is betrayal. Would I kill anyone that would seek to harm him, yes I would he's my brother and I love him. |
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| aluman | Dec 21 2010, 02:47 PM Post #28 |
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Thats a bit strong and atlest iv got the balls to say it puts me off
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 02:55 PM Post #29 |
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i didnt mean to put it across strong aluman.but i did want it to be herd though.you have got balls pal.ive noticed that .dont take it personally.this islam sh1t3 is really ripping the heart out of the western world.and im getting fcuking ill with it.germaint has just been arested for telling the truth,now..does the law not take contempt into the court any more?ill have to have a fag and brew back in 10. keep the faith paxi
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| aluman | Dec 21 2010, 03:00 PM Post #30 |
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It is mate and i will be with all of you when we sort it |
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| Capt Haddock | Dec 21 2010, 03:07 PM Post #31 |
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh you 2 have kissed and made up! (joke)
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| tobias malachi | Dec 21 2010, 04:18 PM Post #32 |
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The truth of the matter is that if a man see's two woman kissing he wants to join in it is a natural response, when he see's two men kissing if he is straight he will be embarrassed and become angry which is also a natural response. I dont think people mind two men meeting and a quick peck on the cheek, the problem arises when two men meet in public and start a heavy snogging session the same goes with couples of the opposit sex it embarrasses people and they get angry. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 05:20 PM Post #33 |
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Don't go out to dinner with them, then. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 05:50 PM Post #34 |
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Spot on there Brian. |
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| slodger | Dec 21 2010, 05:51 PM Post #35 |
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Men kiss fella. Get over it. If it bothers you stop thinking about it. If you cant stop thinking about it........oh f*ck it, I can't be ars*d...... |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 05:54 PM Post #36 |
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I can't stand to see most people kissing tbh.
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| aluman | Dec 21 2010, 05:57 PM Post #37 |
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keep it in there own homes would be beter Edited by aluman, Dec 21 2010, 06:01 PM.
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 06:02 PM Post #38 |
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I know what I would like to do to Alumans dinner. |
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| aluman | Dec 21 2010, 06:06 PM Post #39 |
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why would you wont to do anything to my dinner ? have i done anything to yours ? |
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Ok, people are entitled to like or not like what they want, it's still a free country. Closing this topic for a while for it to get a perspective back. |
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As a straight male, I have to say I don't get embarrassed or angry when I see gay men kissing in public. Probably because I'm not a homophobic bigot. Who the fcuk are you to tell gay people where they can and can't kiss? |
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| ENUFisENUF | Dec 21 2010, 09:46 PM Post #42 |
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The UN is a joke, it's a puppet for PC assholes. |
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| dozyuk | Dec 21 2010, 10:58 PM Post #43 |
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Not in my fantasy I'll get me coat |
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| tobias malachi | Dec 22 2010, 01:04 AM Post #44 |
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Hi NAML Biggotry has got nothing to do with it. The majority of Gay men just get on with their lives and cause nobody any offence, but there is a very small minority that to my mind are exhibitionists and are deliberatly flaunting themselves to cause offence, their attitude is tough learn to live with it. well the truth is a lot of people do not want to learn to live with it and because of a few the majority stand condemed. You cannot tell people they have to put up with something they do not like they will just dig their heels in and react against it. This is an observation on mainly mens reactions to Gay men, this is not a personal oppinion |
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| AlyUK | Dec 22 2010, 03:32 AM Post #45 |
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Just read on Reuters that a US amendment has been passed putting the exclusion back, which is a good result, but they should never have been allowed the exclusion to be removed in the first place. http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6BK6V520101221?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews |
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| aluman | Dec 22 2010, 05:34 PM Post #46 |
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Im me thats who ? and i dont want to see it and i dont what my kids bein subjected to it either its un-natuaral and its against my chritian beliefs so stop advertising it and keep it behind doors where it fcukng belongs. |
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| slodger | Dec 22 2010, 05:56 PM Post #47 |
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| derville | Dec 22 2010, 06:16 PM Post #48 |
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Fortunately, the UK is still the land of the free. Recently, I was watching a program about a boys-only street party for pajamas-dressed grown men. I don't understand everything since I’m not English but the Anjem Choudary guy seemed utterly determined to defend their gayness. Maybe the gay rights campaigners should get in touch with him.
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What? You don't thinks in the .........? Nah! |
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| Deleted User | Dec 22 2010, 06:23 PM Post #50 |
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Aren't you also anti-jewish? Would you please quote your liturgical sources for your homophobia? Or are you just one of those bigots who has no logical arguments and resorts to claiming you're just following your religious text (rather like the islamo-fascists)? Homosexuality is plenty natural. It has been observed in many different species. Whether or not it is pro-creative is not the point of whether or not it is natural. Sociobiologists (who know a darn sight more about the natural world than an ignoramus like you) have actually written books trying to account for just what the evolutionary benefit of homosexuality must be, since it occurs in so many different species. Riding a bicycle is far less natural than homosexuality, but I doubt you want to shield your children's eyes from the Tour de France. As for your fixation on seeing men kissing - I've lived in cities with large gay populations for the last 30 years, and I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I've seen men kissing in public. You are simply a man with little knowledge, and a very large obsession with men kissing. You are probably in need of psychological help. Remind me again, have you ever even been to an EDL demo? Also, remind me again, are you or are you not a BNP voter? You are nothing like the straight men I've met on EDL demos - like the man who had a knife scar down his face, who grabbed another chap and snogged him for the cameras. I doubt you'd be so vociferous in your bigotry if you weren't hiding behind a keyboard. |
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Except - It sounds like more political masking tape over the mouth of free speech.
and atlest iv got the balls to say it puts me off
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