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| made in England | Dec 20 2010, 03:40 PM Post #1 |
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Tommy Robinson co founder of the EDL All well and good but what do we know about his background? His connection with the BNP? What happened to the other co founder Paul Ray? Why does he go under a false name? Furthermore why did he take the name of the founder of the infamous MIG CREW? These questions have been thrown at me many times which has incited me to do a little research but im just wondering if anyone knows for sure |
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"Our ancestors took this land. They took it and made it and held it. We do not give up what our ancestors gave us. They came across the sea and they fought here, and they built here and they're buried here. This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!" Nations which go down fighting rise again, those who surrender tamely are finished Midsomer the last great bastion of Englishness ....Brian True-May Werian se Angelcynn | |
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| Star | Dec 20 2010, 03:45 PM Post #2 |
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I'll answer one of them Why does he go under a false name? to protect his identity and that of his family from nasty people who want to harm him/them |
| THEY JOINED FOR MANY REASONS, TO MARCH, TO SAIL, TO FLY. THEY WENT WHERE THEY WERE POSTED, BUT NOBODY JOINS TO DIE. THEIR LEADERS TALK ON TV, WHAT ELSE COULD WE HAVE DONE? BUT THOSE LEADERS LOST NO DAUGHTERS, AND NONE HAS LOST A SON. SO HERE'S TO ALL OUR SOLDIERS WHEREVER THEY MAY BE...AND HERES TO ALL THEIR FAMILIES, I RAISE A GLASS TO THEE...WEAR YOUR POPPY WITH PRIDE. | |
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| Deleted User | Dec 20 2010, 03:45 PM Post #3 |
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| spike wolves | Dec 20 2010, 03:49 PM Post #4 |
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whos askin these questions and why? |
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| made in England | Dec 20 2010, 03:53 PM Post #5 |
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Me out of curiosity Well changing his name isnt going help hide his identity and protect his family if hes constantly in the media lime light. Especially when the EDL have allowed hackers to gain names and addresses of members endangering their families Edited by made in England, Dec 20 2010, 03:56 PM.
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"Our ancestors took this land. They took it and made it and held it. We do not give up what our ancestors gave us. They came across the sea and they fought here, and they built here and they're buried here. This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!" Nations which go down fighting rise again, those who surrender tamely are finished Midsomer the last great bastion of Englishness ....Brian True-May Werian se Angelcynn | |
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| Deleted User | Dec 20 2010, 03:55 PM Post #6 |
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Seeing as you've been on the forum since 2009 I would have thought that you would know these answers! |
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| Battle of Lepanto | Dec 20 2010, 03:57 PM Post #7 |
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There was a reasonably in-depth interview with him in The Times in October which will probably answer most of your questions. |
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| made in England | Dec 20 2010, 03:58 PM Post #8 |
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I asked these questions when i first joined and was basically told ask no questions, i do have some ideas but but would like them confirmed |
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"Our ancestors took this land. They took it and made it and held it. We do not give up what our ancestors gave us. They came across the sea and they fought here, and they built here and they're buried here. This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!" Nations which go down fighting rise again, those who surrender tamely are finished Midsomer the last great bastion of Englishness ....Brian True-May Werian se Angelcynn | |
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| Span | Dec 20 2010, 03:58 PM Post #9 |
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Im calling bullsh1t on this thread, And the Op can ask this question from the cage |
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| Star | Dec 20 2010, 04:00 PM Post #10 |
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When he founded EDL there was not tv interviews etc, it's only been over the last 6 months or so that Tommy has been doing lots of tv and stuff which was well after his real identity was exposed.... he can call himself wtf he wants for me, so long as he keeps up the good work!
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| THEY JOINED FOR MANY REASONS, TO MARCH, TO SAIL, TO FLY. THEY WENT WHERE THEY WERE POSTED, BUT NOBODY JOINS TO DIE. THEIR LEADERS TALK ON TV, WHAT ELSE COULD WE HAVE DONE? BUT THOSE LEADERS LOST NO DAUGHTERS, AND NONE HAS LOST A SON. SO HERE'S TO ALL OUR SOLDIERS WHEREVER THEY MAY BE...AND HERES TO ALL THEIR FAMILIES, I RAISE A GLASS TO THEE...WEAR YOUR POPPY WITH PRIDE. | |
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| infidel1000 | Dec 20 2010, 04:00 PM Post #11 |
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as a newbie i was thinking exactly the same thing, if anything somebody like me who has only been on the forum a dog watch would be the one who would be asking these sort of questions, but i never look a gifthorse in the mouth. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 20 2010, 04:00 PM Post #12 |
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I find this a bit strange too, we have had loads of discussions on this subject. Arthur. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 20 2010, 04:01 PM Post #13 |
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It was a bad idea to ask these questions. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 20 2010, 04:02 PM Post #14 |
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very odd for someone who has been here as long as you have to asking this sort of question |
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| Orwell | Dec 20 2010, 04:06 PM Post #15 |
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Yawns. Perhaps you would care to reveal your actual name if you feel secrecy is such a bad thing? |
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| Span | Dec 20 2010, 04:13 PM Post #16 |
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Cancel that thought, MIE back as member |
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| spike wolves | Dec 20 2010, 04:18 PM Post #17 |
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as far as i am concerned as long as he is moving the edl forward he's doing a perfectly good job to me, next thing you'll be wanting every members background which has nothing at all to do with what we are standing for, tommy is protecting his family and i cant see why these questions are being asked. Tommy has got more balls to go on camera than most people in a movement like this !!!! |
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| Battle of Lepanto | Dec 20 2010, 04:21 PM Post #18 |
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I think MIE disappeared off the forum for some time and may not have been around when these types of questions about the EDL leadership were being answered. |
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| made in England | Dec 20 2010, 04:23 PM Post #19 |
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Yeah no problem my name is name remoived ex solder, English Loyalist, Nationalist married three kids from Sedgley just outside Wolves, there you mate
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"Our ancestors took this land. They took it and made it and held it. We do not give up what our ancestors gave us. They came across the sea and they fought here, and they built here and they're buried here. This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!" Nations which go down fighting rise again, those who surrender tamely are finished Midsomer the last great bastion of Englishness ....Brian True-May Werian se Angelcynn | |
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| jeceris | Dec 20 2010, 04:23 PM Post #20 |
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Yeah, my thoughts entirely. Strictly a "need to know" basis is good-practice.
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| Battle of Lepanto | Dec 20 2010, 04:24 PM Post #21 |
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I knew you were going to say that! Edited by Span Derbyshire, Dec 20 2010, 04:30 PM.
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| 11.11.10 - Never Forget | Dec 20 2010, 04:28 PM Post #22 |
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All well and good but what do we know about his background? There's a fair bit out there if you really want to find it but my question in response to that would be why does it matter? He's not claiming to be a role model and has said time and time again "I'm no angel" but he's doing a top job of leading the EDL is he not? His connection with the BNP? This has been answered a million times. He had a membership to the BNP, found out more about it and decided it wasn't for him. There's a photo out there of him at a BNP meeting but who cares? We're all allowed to look into political parties in a democratic society, what's the problem with that? What happened to the other co founder Paul Ray? He blogs under the name Lionheart and makes wackjob conspiracy youtube videos. If you read anything he's written or watch any of his videos you'll get an idea of how 'out there' he is. Why does he go under a false name? It was initially to protect his family, his real name is out there and not even a secret, it's been used in the media plenty of times and this isn't a big deal. Furthermore why did he take the name of the founder of the infamous MIG CREW? 'Cause he's from Luton and that's a well known name around Luton, as far as I know, can't see it being a problem really? Bottom line is this - Tommy is leading this movement in a way which has made it grow and grow. He's handled all the recent media really well, stood up for our troops on 11.11, and who else can say they're doing a fraction of what he's doing? Maximum respect to Tommy! |
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| Deleted User | Dec 20 2010, 04:29 PM Post #23 |
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Don't you think that's a bit stupid putting your details on here, when you've just said that you've got a wife and kids? There's no point in putting them in danger just to prove a point. Edited by Span Derbyshire, Dec 20 2010, 04:31 PM.
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| slodger | Dec 20 2010, 04:29 PM Post #24 |
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I would have thought that one look at the way Tommy has run the EDL would render such questions irrelevant. His actions as leader make him more than qualified in my opinion. What will you be asking next? What school did he go to? |
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| 11.11.10 - Never Forget | Dec 20 2010, 04:32 PM Post #25 |
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Exactly. What does Tommy prefer, Jaffa Cakes or Biscuits? Is he more proud of being responsible for global warming or 9/11? |
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| englandman | Dec 20 2010, 04:40 PM Post #26 |
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I like made in Englands style!!
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| HUSCARL | Dec 20 2010, 04:44 PM Post #27 |
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Respect to you Kinsman
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| protectthehuman | Dec 20 2010, 04:48 PM Post #28 |
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I think certain questions just make us feel abit more at home with what we belive. We know alot about political leaders so why not about Tommy? However Never Forge gave a really good answer to everything that was asked. Because as being new,Im abit lost on what to do other then post or march. What do most people do on a day to day basis for the EDL? |
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| slodger | Dec 20 2010, 05:55 PM Post #29 |
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I email, write letters and even telephone (especially the BBC ) to put my views across. It is the method of campaigning I have grown used to after years of fighting for gay rights. I am good at it. I enjoy it. I would like to think it is effective. I may be a keyboard warrior to some but I see myself as another string to the EDL bow.
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| lionsingh | Dec 20 2010, 06:22 PM Post #30 |
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All the questions you asked you could/can find on the internet. You have a lot of posts...so I am sure you did some research as well as others. More to the point...do you think he is doing a good job and is up front with his goals and ambitions. Are you questioning strategy or just looking for an inquisition ? I could have understood if you were a newbie. You know you can send PM to Admin and others that would address your concerns. Perhaps if you are so interested...ask for a interview with him. I am sure Tommy knows ...and many others close to him. contact MI5...they probably know what colour undies he has on today if you are really interested. AS for the BNP..I dislike them, but one of my Mates in Germany used to be a regional organiser of a real far-right movement in the UK...told me 6 months after knowing him..Bit of a shock...brutal hatred....Scared the sh1t out of me...but he was upright and we spoke about a lot as to why ...and what made him change.... He was always protective towards me....he was hard ...I always took the piss out of him never about his far-right association....maybe he felt sorry...He was a Man City fan...that would have explained it. Simple thing...his daughter (she was 15 ish) brought her best friend home..She was a Black Brit... He said he freaked out...but in the end trusted his daughter and learned. People change. The first time i met my ex-wifes grandfather...was warned... A real Ex-SS officer...I said if he insulted me...I was out...he utterly adored me..as he always said he should be polite and offer me scnapps as I was an Englander...His brown eyed,Black haired, brown skin great-grandson was the love of his life... I was his family...head strong as well...did appreciate the shorts though. ...we all learn...better late than never. I have the utmost respect for Tommy for creating the EDL. Unless he is a moon worshipping, woman stoning , kid fiddling , world dominating psycho...then all the respect. ..P.S. Its black panties for Tommy today if you are interested. |
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| protectthehuman | Dec 20 2010, 07:13 PM Post #31 |
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Do you have a list of contacts so I could join you in emailing and such? |
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| Tutaminis legio | Dec 20 2010, 07:23 PM Post #32 |
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He better Prefer Jaffa cakes or im leaving this movement! |
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| jojo edl angel | Dec 20 2010, 08:02 PM Post #33 |
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I really dont think it matters who the fcuk he is - personally I couldnt give two hoots! All you should be concerned with is what he IS doing - working his bollocks off leading the EDL - leave the bloke alone & give him the bloody credit he god damn deserves! |
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| Ridgeback | Dec 20 2010, 08:17 PM Post #34 |
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Watch this. Be patient, it takes a couple of minutes to get going. This and the Poppy burning are why I joined. I have always prided myself on being able to judge character. This is a man of good character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgKNca-BSQg |
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| made in England | Dec 21 2010, 12:12 PM Post #35 |
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My wife and kids are in danger every time they take a step outside the front door thanks to the bleeding heart do gooders and i dont just mean by muslims but also by all the other scourge that infest our streets and i am talking from experience as back in 1995 my wife and 1 year old child were carjacked at a busy Merryhill centre car park whilst her so called countrymen the Great British public stood by and did nothing. Not one of the spineless bastards went to her aid whilst that scum dragged her out of the car while shielding our baby girl. Since that day ive had no time what so ever for the British people in general, i neither trust or like them, the mass majority do not deserve a country they can call their own let alone the freedom to live it. I do what i do to support and protect my family but at the same time dont hide who i am or what i stand for. Regarding the questions about Tommy Robinson, i merely asked for mainly my own benefit, to basically get to know him a little better than what the biased press tell me, also to answer the many questions i get from people whom know what i stand for. Another question i did intend to ask was did he serve at all but thats neither here nor there now. TBH Tommy is top bloke, hes got balls and a natural leader, im no leader but have much in common, just carnt believe people think ill of me for taking an interest but would like to thank the ones who didnt. I appreciate what the mods did by removing my name, i know they only had my best interests at heart, cheers. Finally i was an English loyalist long before the formation of the EDL and before Tommy was even born infact. Support for the EDL is the wrong choice of words as the EDL is only as strong as the English that rally to the flag. |
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| Malbekh | Dec 21 2010, 12:25 PM Post #36 |
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I think Tommy being the leader of a movement like this and subjecting himself to all the media glare is an extraordinarily courageous guy and the questions you ask are exceedingly small questions in the light of that. |
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| The Swine | Dec 21 2010, 12:29 PM Post #37 |
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The fact that Tommy leads from the front and attacked MAC on his own is good enough for me.Maybe he has made mistakes in the past but the same could be said for most of us. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 12:29 PM Post #38 |
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Great man. The safety of him and his family is at risk yet he continues to lead the EDL. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 21 2010, 12:38 PM Post #39 |
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I think we need a list of current campaigns/email addys in one place to make it easier for people to respond effectively to the powers that be. We'll see what we can do. |
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| infidel1000 | Dec 21 2010, 12:49 PM Post #40 |
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I have some sympathy for your views especially regarding the incident with your wife but although awful i do not believe it justifies your attitude to all the british people,you should try and remember that civilians are not as disciplined as military personel and are in many cases just to scared to get involved not just from fear but also because of the anti-british laws the traitors at westminster have imposed on us.we have many serving and ex service men and women in our ranks and that should tell you something.the EDL has gone from nothing to international attention and immitation all over europe and the world in less than 18 months and that also should tell you something of the quality of the leadership.you have asked relevant questions and those questions have been answered.i do not believe that malice was intended by any member towards you in their answers its merely the natural response of patriots seeking to defend their leader,i am sure you felt the same loyalty towards your comrades when you were in the forces.give some consideration to joining us fully as i believe you would be a valuable addition to our cause |
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| HUSCARL | Dec 21 2010, 01:03 PM Post #41 |
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Great post kinsman ,I fully agree with your views and the attack on your family disgusts me as do all the more increasing attacks upon our folc,our day will come brother when our nation awakes and rises as one to take back what is rightfully ours
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| Nell_Angel | Dec 22 2010, 11:29 AM Post #42 |
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I don't think anyone who hasn't lived life a bit, has a bit of history, is fit to lead anyone else personally. Jesus chose St Paul as an apostle, even though he had been busy persecuting Christians up til then. Judge not lest ye be judged
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| 11.11.10 - Never Forget | Dec 22 2010, 10:24 PM Post #43 |
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Love this post. |
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