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| Time for EDL to think of becoming political ? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 19 2010, 01:21 PM (916 Views) | |
| ekki | Dec 19 2010, 07:26 PM Post #51 |
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1] Are you sure ? Some people can grow to unexpected height. But first they have to be launched in such a position. 2] And then there is maybe the possibility of a cooperation, with the party Farrow is with. They lack the support you have. And you lack the political organization they have. (united we would stand stronger) |
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| Deleted User | Dec 19 2010, 07:58 PM Post #52 |
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| lionsingh | Dec 19 2010, 08:01 PM Post #53 |
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| BobFront | Dec 19 2010, 08:28 PM Post #54 |
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UKIP is an utter waste of a vote IMO. But if that's who you think will represent you best go for it. The vast majority of people in this country are working class and we're not represented by any of the major parties, even down to the BNP. We need to organise in our own communities and not let the politicians and media try and divide us. |
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| DrMack911 | Dec 19 2010, 08:49 PM Post #55 |
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Effective political parties evolve out of convergence of interests across the full spectrum of public choice challenges. The EDL is a focused effort on a handful of issues that could be considered the lowest hanging fruit in the public choices to be made concerning the defence of our civilization against an ancient enemy which has managed to successfully breach our gates while the median voter slept. At the present it would be unwise for the EDL, with its very limited resources, to join the general fray of social and economic public dialogue. It is better that the resources mustered by the EDL today continue to be used to increase the awareness of the British public of the near and present danger posed by the vanguard of the enemies of our civilization who have established a beachhead in our society in the realms of politics, economics, social sphere and are systematically engaged in an ancient campaign of psychological warfare. Once this threat is effectively neutralized, then I would suggest that the EDL's resources might be useful in the continuing effort to promote progress and the general welfare by tackling issues like education, health care, social services, fiscal responsibility, foreign affairs, etc. |
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| Span | Dec 19 2010, 09:31 PM Post #56 |
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Ok less of the personal insults/Threats from all sides, or mod queue and the cage awaits you . Also cut the bad language out too please, Thanks in advance, |
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| BobFront | Dec 19 2010, 09:37 PM Post #57 |
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I think everybody needs to take a ride on the chill bus. |
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| DrMack911 | Dec 19 2010, 09:53 PM Post #58 |
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Exchange of epithets among our own ranks will do more harm than an external foe ever could. To all the Sikhs among us I have this to say: even a cursory glance at the Sikh history and the movement's continuous epic and courageous struggle against Muslim despotism for centuries is proof enough that no more true friend of our cause is in our midst. I for one am proud to embrace you as a true brother in this ancient global conflict with our common adversary. |
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| 666paul | Dec 19 2010, 09:54 PM Post #59 |
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Vote for the party that is nearest your political views that have the most chance of power. the saying divide and conquer will apply with politics as well, we need a common party to vote for. Will the EDL leaders recommend a party to vote for for unity of purpose??? I'm no sheep but willing to vote for a common purpose. |
| A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Sir W.Churchill | |
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| shnarkle | Dec 19 2010, 10:10 PM Post #60 |
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Demonstrating against something and changing something are not the same thing at all. From a demonstration point of view the entire media have decided that the EDL are a right wing bunch of racist thugs who's message is not worthy of serious consideration. With the resourses at their disposal they will always win the PR battle for hearts and minds; which surely we are trying to do. However, there is more than can be done than just demonstrate. If demonstrating doesn't win hearts and minds, and doesn't change things, then what are the EDL to do next? Demonstrate some more? That would have already proved to be ineffective to achieve its aims and shows that the organisation cannot evolve, because it has no official, elected leadership. The charity idea mentioned above sounds interesting; however, which organisation in their right mind are going to expose children to the racist bile of what they perceive, as a result of media attacks, to be the Nazi party under a different name. Without leadership, a manifesto of its aims, and political representation the EDL will, on the grand scale be largely ineffective because it doesn't have a voice where it matters - the corridors of power. Without a massive, carefully targeted PR campaign with the aim of turning around the perceived view of the EDL then they will continue to be invited on TV and radio shows to be shied at, and to be made to look small , stupid racists. What fun for the other panel members - to have a common enemy they can all give a good kicking to, and look good themselves in the process. The only way to gain widespread respect and sympathy for our views, is to have a leadership who can decide upon, and actively pursue specific targets in a bid to give the EDL an air of respectability and banish the oh so easily applied, racist tag. At the same time they need to be pursuing a political agenda with a manifesto of specific things that they feel they can change through a combination of demonstration, PR exercises and political lobbying. With a specific agenda and attainable targets the EDL can, through the auspices of its leadership concentrate all its energy, and the undoubted talents of many of its members into achieving those goals; rather than, sort of being against the islamification of England in a generalised way. Target our attack; achieve our goal; move on to the next level. Without a brain an organism can survive and that's about it. With a brain, it can take decisions that will benefit the organism, rebutt criticism with a carefully thought out reply, decide when and where to attack, and co-ordinate the many threads of action that constitute a complex organism. If the EDL do not embrace a leadership; and if the EDL do not open a political wing they will never be an organisation that is taken seriously by those that truly have the power and make the decisions that matter. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 19 2010, 10:21 PM Post #61 |
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One way of getting a thread closed is just to carry on when admin has asked for it to be civil. Just a tip there.
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| Capt Haddock | Dec 19 2010, 10:32 PM Post #62 |
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Intresting read mate, goes to show how Islam is against everything that is not Islamic. |
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| lionsingh | Dec 19 2010, 11:11 PM Post #63 |
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we all know which party you will support. Proud we have a democracy in the UK..even rag heads can vote..Lets see the results. Luton will be a celebration...for all of us. We are good as a pressure group. the EDL will only go stronger. see you there mate. |
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| aluman | Dec 19 2010, 11:16 PM Post #64 |
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whats up with you pal ? why start again ? |
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| Deleted User | Dec 19 2010, 11:22 PM Post #65 |
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Closed until people chill. |
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