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Time for EDL to think of becoming political ?
Topic Started: Dec 19 2010, 01:21 PM (917 Views)
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The EDL are becoming a street movement with rapid growth who are feared by many many towns and cities all over Britain. The tories/lib dems/labour are all the same and people are starting to see it. If the EDL keep on growing, do you think there is ever a chance we could see Tommy Robinson's name on the ballot sheet in the next election ?

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personally i wouldn't want the edl as a political movement. i like it just how it is.
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Dec 19 2010, 01:23 PM
personally i wouldn't want the edl as a political movement. i like it just how it is.
However, by getting into parliament, they would be taken more seriously, at the moment, I think people just look at us as mindless thugs, but I think we can change that by moving into parliament.
As My grandad said, he can't vote for anyone apart from UKIP now, because the tories/lib dems/labour are all the same, so if the EDL became political, he would vote for them.
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Dec 19 2010, 01:21 PM
The EDL are becoming a street movement with rapid growth who are feared by many many towns and cities all over Britain.
not feared, welcomed!

and no. politics isnt for the EDL.
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we are a non- political street movement,and we are doing fine the way we are
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Definitely NOT a political movement.
Influence politics by all means, but I would not want the EDL to become a political party.
I fcuking hate politicians.
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The EDL could sponsor Muslim apostates standing as Independents ... I know several ex-muslims who would be only too happy to stand up in Parliament and have their say.
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A street movement can easily be demonized into a criminal organization.
(which is being done already by politicians and press and “comedians”)

So without a political cloud,
the EDL will be powerless…

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fireman_tim
Dec 19 2010, 02:51 PM
Definitely NOT a political movement.
Influence politics by all means, but I would not want the EDL to become a political party.
I fcuking hate politicians.
What Tim said.
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Interesting question, with good arguments on both sides. Undecided.
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The conservative party gets about £5m in donations every year, Labour similar. So in a 4-5 year period before elections they amass £20m. This is on top of their existing assets. When you have that sort of money available to donate, then come back and talk about becoming political.
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We are a street protest movement. Let's leave politics to those who know politics better than us. We are more like the Chartist movement in the 1840's. They campaigned for political reforms and were not interested in political power at all. They were so called after their famous charter that they presented to the government. Most of the points were not implemented by parliament straight off, but over the years and now just about all of their demands have been met.

Maybe our next step forward is publicity driven demands for government action presented to 'Call me Dave' at number 10.
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this is a great idea , it needs to be set up .
This land is mine and as such respect me and my ways for my tolerance only goes so far

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short answer on this - NO

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better, i'd say keep the edl as it stands now, continue to grow in voice, spread the message, let it snow ball and then some. it's early days still, we need to spend this time to build strong foundations. keep on doing what we're doing, that voice is getting a bit louder each day. soon the politicians will have to listen to us NS :)
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IMHO The growth of the EDL since its creation has been astonishing and i firmly believe that that growth will continue for the foreseeable future,i also believe that the potential for other paths to be taken are indeed enormous, but i trust the leadership to make the correct choices as to when and where and why we may choose to move in other directions,the 3 failed old traitor parties would give their eye teeth to be having our rate of growth and success,they are despised while we are increasingly seen as ENGLANDS/GREAT BRITAINS best hope,we have got a goodly number of our serving heroes on board and our police must be pleased to know that we are on their side and do our utmost to keep our demonstrations peaceful and will deal firmly with anyone who rocks the boat.On the streets people cannot ignore us (even though the msm,especially the bbc, will continue to try) and as more and more of our people see that it is the thugs and bullyboy cowards of the uaf/swp/extremist muslims(sponsored and supported by the 3 failed old traitor parties) who are the ones intent on causing violence so more and more will be inclined to sympathise with our cause and join the ranks.i also firmly believe that the vast majority of BRITISH people(not being idiots)already know who our countries real enemies are.the EDL are increasingly being seen throughout the world as the organisation who are taking the fight to the muslim extremists and are ready and willing to take them on and many of our patriotic friends abroad are organising themselves along the lines of the EDL.other avenues may well be investigated in the future but none must be allowed to take the sting out of the street movement where the EDL'S continuing success is obvious for everyone to see.
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no we should not.
'islam should get what ever it demands, all criticism of it is racism' -Pat Condell

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it may punch you in the face.
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Just vote ukip.
"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

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Dec 19 2010, 03:27 PM
better, i'd say keep the edl as it stands now, continue to grow in voice, spread the message, let it snow ball and then some. it's early days still, we need to spend this time to build strong foundations. keep on doing what we're doing, that voice is getting a bit louder each day. soon the politicians will have to listen to us NS :)
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stay away from politics
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Dec 19 2010, 03:52 PM
Just vote ukip.
This^^
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We are so diverse...thats our strenght...we are UNITED in the dangers Sharia and Islamists pose.

We have supporters from various political spectrums...

The only way would be perhaps Tommy in a one-off as a protest vote..perhaps Luton....

But then comes the Agenda and Manifesto...This forum is healthy as we disagree and debate many things that we will not all see on.

Do we want to discuss fiscal policy, devolution or not ?..how many trees should be planted etc....Do you want to write a manifesto ?
Make snowballing cops and Muzzies a national sport...Write that in the manifesto please...and let me know when it is done.

We love England and want freedom , we want ONE law for all.

Thats enough to be concentrating on at the moment. ^_^
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No,

just vote UKIP for nearest political views.
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fcuk UKIP they're just a bunch of upper and middle class dusty old farts that have only their interests at heart.

You want a working class organisation, hates fundamentalist Islam, hates the BNP, community based then the IWCA are much better alternative.

http://www.iwca.info/
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I dont think a political party is a good idea at all,take decades to establish

Tell you what i DO think is a good idea..

Setting up a registered charity with the stated aim of "educating the wider British community regarding the islamic faith" including providing educational materials for RE classes in schools and materials for members of other faiths and then turning up and delivering the DETAIL of what Islam professes so that Everyone in this country gets to know

Phrase it right and you'll get lottery funding
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ekki
Dec 19 2010, 03:05 PM
A street movement can easily be demonized into a criminal organization.
(which is being done already by politicians and press and “comedians”)

So without a political cloud,
the EDL will be powerless…

.......and with a political 'cloud' we'd be proscribed.
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Dec 19 2010, 05:49 PM
providing educational materials for RE classes in schools and materials for members of other faiths and then turning up and delivering the DETAIL of what Islam professes so that Everyone in this country gets to know

Phrase it right and you'll get lottery funding
Not a chance, would never happen.
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The EDL IS political - just not PARTY-political. Everything we do is political.
ujac
Dec 19 2010, 01:40 PM
we are a non- political street movement,and we are doing fine the way we are
Non-PARTY-political?
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BobFront
Dec 19 2010, 05:44 PM
fcuk UKIP they're just a bunch of upper and middle class dusty old farts that have only their interests at heart.

You want a working class organisation, hates fundamentalist Islam, hates the BNP, community based then the IWCA are much better alternative.

http://www.iwca.info/
Seems to be a leftie "anti-Fascist" type website. And what do they actually do? Do they have a better chance of getting an MP than the UKIP?

And I searched their site for Islam, they don't mention it. I'm not impressed with what I've seen.
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Dec 19 2010, 05:52 PM
ekki
Dec 19 2010, 03:05 PM
A street movement can easily be demonized into a criminal organization.
(which is being done already by politicians and press and “comedians”)

So without a political cloud,
the EDL will be powerless…

.......and with a political 'cloud' we'd be proscribed.
By whom ?

Your colleague MP’s ?

Think what that would do to the electorate !!!

Better propaganda you can not wish…
(so they wouldn’t dare)

In Holland the party of Pim Fortuyn got 20% of the votes in a few years time !
The party of Geert Wilders has also around 20% of the votes.
And they’re still growing.
In the polls they are the biggest political party of Holland.

What they will do, though, is play the card of demonization.

But that -> only brings more votes !



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R.S. Peters
Dec 19 2010, 05:55 PM
The EDL IS political - just not PARTY-political. Everything we do is political.
ujac
Dec 19 2010, 01:40 PM
we are a non- political street movement,and we are doing fine the way we are
Non-PARTY-political?
thanks R S that what i meant :)
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Dec 19 2010, 05:49 PM
I dont think a political party is a good idea at all,take decades to establish

Tell you what i DO think is a good idea..

Setting up a registered charity with the stated aim of "educating the wider British community regarding the islamic faith" including providing educational materials for RE classes in schools and materials for members of other faiths and then turning up and delivering the DETAIL of what Islam professes so that Everyone in this country gets to know

Phrase it right and you'll get lottery funding
all these things are great .
This land is mine and as such respect me and my ways for my tolerance only goes so far

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Dec 19 2010, 03:00 PM
The EDL could sponsor Muslim apostates standing as Independents ... I know several ex-muslims who would be only too happy to stand up in Parliament and have their say.
muslims should,nt be anywhere near are parliament let alone in it
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No.
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Dec 19 2010, 06:17 PM
muslims should,nt be anywhere near are parliament let alone in it
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This also goes for ex moslims.
(taqiyya)
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Dec 19 2010, 06:17 PM
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Dec 19 2010, 03:00 PM
The EDL could sponsor Muslim apostates standing as Independents ... I know several ex-muslims who would be only too happy to stand up in Parliament and have their say.
muslims should,nt be anywhere near are parliament let alone in it
No one ever gets into Parliament on a single issue. So the Muslim apostates should just stick with the EDL for now.
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Dec 19 2010, 06:17 PM
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Dec 19 2010, 03:00 PM
The EDL could sponsor Muslim apostates standing as Independents ... I know several ex-muslims who would be only too happy to stand up in Parliament and have their say.
muslims should,nt be anywhere near are parliament let alone in it
He was talking about Muslim apostates, which means that they are ex-Muslims.
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ekki
Dec 19 2010, 06:07 PM
By whom ?

Your colleague MP’s ?
What 'colleague MP's' might these be?
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Dec 19 2010, 06:11 PM
melaniearden
Dec 19 2010, 05:49 PM
I dont think a political party is a good idea at all,take decades to establish

Tell you what i DO think is a good idea..

Setting up a registered charity with the stated aim of "educating the wider British community regarding the islamic faith" including providing educational materials for RE classes in schools and materials for members of other faiths and then turning up and delivering the DETAIL of what Islam professes so that Everyone in this country gets to know

Phrase it right and you'll get lottery funding
all these things are great .
Good ideas. But the councils and central Gov would be up our arses in no time if we tried to do such things. But that's no reason not to try!

EDL members could become Contra-Islamic Scholars!!! Robert Spencer, of Jihad Watch, is a Contra-Islamic Scholar. In fact he definitely knows more about Islam than the average Muslim and even more than most 'Islamic scholars'. The problem with Islamic scholars is that they are NOT really scholars. They have no critical take on Islam, the Koran, etc. They are more like well-programmed Islamic machines.
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Support EDL, vote UKIP, make a difference.
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Non political .A voice yes Definatley but not Political who amongst us trust the politicians i for one do not trust them
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Dec 19 2010, 06:37 PM
ekki
Dec 19 2010, 06:07 PM
By whom ?

Your colleague MP’s ?
What 'colleague MP's' might these be?
Good ones of course, with an impeccable reputation.

As a Dutchman I have no names for you.
(I’m not that well informed)

But I can give you an example of what it should/could be like.

But then you all start yelling and swearing again.
You’re so divided amongst yourselves.
That is one of your BIGGEST weaknesses !

If you all could only understand,
that we’re on the same side,
fighting the same fight,
against ethnocide

And that there is no-one without flaw…

Here’s the example :




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The silent majority are with us, Do we become a political party? im not sure right now but perhaps in a few years we should.

Ukip does not support nationalism, We are nationalist whether you admit it or not. I want a party with the power of UKIP and the Pride of the BNP.

A new party is needed.
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i have to agree with ekki,we europeans and the rest of the world must unite to defeat the muslim extremists,but on the other hand ekki most of these mep's want to destroy the european nation states anyway they are just a bunch of anti-european traitors just as our 3 main parties are just a bunch of anti-british racists,they are the ones producing the legislation designed to destroy our individual european nation states,nigel is simply pointing this out in his usual diplomatic fashion,we dont want unelected european dictators telling us what to do anymore than we want sharia law and extremist muslims doing so.
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Dec 19 2010, 06:33 PM
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Dec 19 2010, 06:17 PM
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Dec 19 2010, 03:00 PM
The EDL could sponsor Muslim apostates standing as Independents ... I know several ex-muslims who would be only too happy to stand up in Parliament and have their say.
muslims should,nt be anywhere near are parliament let alone in it
He was talking about Muslim apostates, which means that they are ex-Muslims.
ex-muslims ? I would,nt trust one would you ?
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Dec 19 2010, 07:03 PM
The silent majority are with us, Do we become a political party? im not sure right now but perhaps in a few years we should.

Ukip does not support nationalism, We are nationalist whether you admit it or not. I want a party with the power of UKIP and the Pride of the BNP.

A new party is needed.
you mean something aakin to a united national party can it happen? is there enough concencus to unite us ?
will the silent majority come out in force to vote with us

who knows but to keep going is the uniting force of the EDL .
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Dec 19 2010, 06:55 PM
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Dec 19 2010, 06:37 PM
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Dec 19 2010, 06:07 PM
By whom ?

Your colleague MP’s ?
What 'colleague MP's' might these be?
Good ones of course, with an impeccable reputation.

Here’s the example :




Ah, now I understand, thank you.

Farage is a guy I admire because he'll hit the eurocrats with some home truths but we are sadly lacking people with his energy and conviction.
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Dec 19 2010, 03:52 PM
Just vote ukip.
We all know are days are number with there birth rates ? so why would anyone vote ukip ? coz we all know that stopin immigration is not anuff it needs reversing and theres only one party that will do this and it ain,t ukip :'(
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He was talking about Muslim apostates, which means that they are ex-Muslims.
ex-muslims ? I would,nt trust one would you ?
I see your point, but many ex-Muslims left Islam because they rejected the violence in it, they often know the truth about Islam and they know a lot about the cult. They would help expose the truth about Islam to other politicians if they were elected.

We need anti-Islam politicians in Parliament. I'm not suggesting that the EDL should make this happen, just explaining why I think it would be good if ex-Muslims were elected.
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Dec 19 2010, 07:03 PM
The silent majority are with us, Do we become a political party? im not sure right now but perhaps in a few years we should.

Ukip does not support nationalism, We are nationalist whether you admit it or not. I want a party with the power of UKIP and the Pride of the BNP.

A new party is needed.
the silent majority were with the africans,the asians,the americans,the arabs,the jews and of course the irish when they all turned to the bomb and the bullet to kick us out of their countries,in fact if you flick back through a few pages of our own history you would see there the proof that when the people are with you in whatever struggle armed or not you are much more than likely to win.maybe its not a new party we need at all?.
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