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200 Muslims in anti-Christmas demo
Topic Started: Dec 19 2010, 01:20 AM (2,132 Views)
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All I can say is EDL are lucky with their enemies in a similar way to Margaret Thatcher when she was prime minister. What more of a stereotypical bad guy could you get, a bearded, muslim extremist with a load of suicide bomber lookalikes friends waving black islamic flags!
I think EDL should do a counter protest but it has to be peaceful escpecially with it being Christmas Eve. There will be thousands of shoppers on Oxford Street and the last thing we need is for all the shops to be closed down.
Singing christmas carols sounds good to me and spreading the message of peace and goodwill to everyone (except the bad guys). If there is no violence it will be the perfect reqruitment platform and it could be one of best days yet for the EDL.
If the UAF turn up to counter protest then they would have to be completely mad they would be protesting with the devil Anjem Choudary against Christmas (or they probably call it mid winter break!)
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ahhh, if I weren't going away for christmas, i'd go !
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If the OB allow the Muslims to spew hatred, how can they possibly object to a peaceful carol concert, perhaps with a collection for charity?
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Christmas Greetings to everybody including the bad guys that way you keep them wrong footed with no grounds for complaint
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im not being funny, but these muslims are really starting to p*ss me off, it isn't funny anymore, we need to recruit as many people as possible so we have 100's of thousands of members. In America, these unwashed peadophiles aren't protected, so why should they be in the UK.
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yeah, everyone wants to do that...one problem thought mate, for every muslim, theres one of the OB protectin em.
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Yeah, let them have their little jag, it can only be counter-productive. AJ goes on about our government "frittering-away" money to other countries- yeah, right! Countries like the one HE and his followers should be hastily sent back to with my foot right up their arses. A sad irony is, there'll be no moderate-muslims there handing-out leaflets supporting the season of goodwill and putting a positive slant on it from a muslim perspective. Until that happens, they're all as guilty as one-another. Snow-balls at the ready!
And the idea of the exploding burkha-clad snowman had me splitting my sides. Only a Brit could've come up with this. What do you do with an islamic dog? Muzzlim....
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I think the Carol singing is a fab idea. the last thing the EDL need is any bad publicity around Christmas!
3-400 Carol singers, smiling and wishing people Merry Christmas is the sort of thing that will really annoy Choudary, he wants a knee jerk violent reaction to prove his point. Give him the exact opposite :D
Isn't there a Christian Party around somewhere that could join in the singing and swell the numbers? I remember seeing something about them being anti Islam, can't remember where tho.

A Carol sing song, followed by a jolly good snowball pelting ;)


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I think the Carol singing is a fab idea. the last thing the EDL need is any bad publicity around Christmas!
3-400 Carol singers, smiling and wishing people Merry Christmas is the sort of thing that will really annoy Choudary, he wants a knee jerk violent reaction to prove his point. Give him the exact opposite :D
Isn't there a Christian Party around somewhere that could join in the singing and swell the numbers? I remember seeing something about them being anti Islam, can't remember where tho.

A Carol sing song, followed by a jolly good snowball pelting ;)


Edited because I cannot spell this morning!
yes mate, you hit the nail right on the head, this is a chance for the EDL to show what they really stand for. This is a great chance for us to recruit people too, they will see what we stand for and that we are the only organisation who stand up to these peodophilic, medieval, barbaric b*stards.
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WHO WANTS TO JOIN ME IN A COUNTER DEMO?
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=153470174700287
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Let him get on with it. if he really believes e can convert the good xmas shoppers of London, with some silly rant then it just goes to show what a silly tw4t he really is! and as you so rightly say, he's only gonna futher mucky the image of islam anway. Hope one of the shoppers knock him sparko, and tell him where he can shove the flag of islam.
and from this day forward, as we have right from the start, come wind and rain, we won't complain, we'll continue to march. We'll be there in our numbers, We'll make our voices heard, to defend our land from hate preachers, counter there every word. demo days and meet and greets, serious but fun, and at the end of everything, with victory over scum, you'll here us cheers, OI get us a beer, our hard work here is done.


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I can't take this seriously because we all know that he is just a media whore and attention seeker who will say anything to see him name in the media.

He'll be at home with his bedsheet tucked under his chin, manhandling his mullah to all th...is attention.

Remember folks, he's impotent not important. :-)
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Dec 19 2010, 12:36 PM
WHO WANTS TO JOIN ME IN A COUNTER DEMO?
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=153470174700287
Counter demos are what the uaf do. It's just a recipe for trouble on christmas eve with edl getting the blame.
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I think there might be no need to counter this one, they are attacking Santa at Christmas time the fools! They are definitely going to make pricks of themselves from this one :D
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Surely just the fact he is going to protest at Christmas time against a Christian festival can be seen as religious hatred, and should be banned on that basis. The OB only need to receive complaints about this and they are duty bound to investigate, what hatred material are they producing? They should have there homes raided and any hate material confiscated, and get done for it.
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E.D.L should all turn up wearing santa suits (red and white ) and turn the whole thing into a great big christmas sing song mulled wine drinking party and show london and the media we are also about the christmas spirit . and choudrys a bar humbug . yep invite the sally army as well .
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Would encourage any counter-protesters to dress up as Santa Claus
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Dec 19 2010, 11:29 AM
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Dec 19 2010, 01:28 AM
Let him do his protest. The more bad publicity for islam the better
The problem is that TV news will bottle it as usual and not show it or it will get a passing mention once in some hardly watched bulletin just so they can say it was mentioned.
I agree with this.

Given the track record of the BBC/journo's you cannot expect the sort of coverage (if any) we'd like to see that would expose this slap in the face for christmas.

Any counter protest or activity will NOT do the EDL any favours so I would suggest anyone contemplating any action to go through their local Div/RO for clarification on this.

If you'd like to do anything at all I'd suggest being a decent distance away so as not to inflame the situation and to equip yourselves with cameras and camcorders to capture these desperate idiots in compromising situations.

BBC/Journo's won't want to know so go in their stead. Just think of the opportunities for anti-islamic publicity, this could turn out to be something of a coup.

Start anything or react to anything yourself (regardless of the level of provocation) and the EDL WILL get a bad name for a very long time.


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Dec 19 2010, 03:07 PM
Surely just the fact he is going to protest at Christmas time against a Christian festival can be seen as religious hatred, and should be banned on that basis. The OB only need to receive complaints about this and they are duty bound to investigate, what hatred material are they producing? They should have there homes raided and any hate material confiscated, and get done for it.
I think you need to read the detail of the op again.

WE know it's anti-christmas/an insult to christmas but, by reading the detail of the op again you'll see they are NOT overtly protesting against christmas or a christian festival, not one bit.

They are playing their usual sneaky, two-faced games in such a way it can't be (mis)interpreted as asti-christian but rather a protest againt materialism, abortion, excess etc., etc.

These people are not fools, they know exactly what they can get away with and how far they can push the boundaries of decency & the law.

They are trying to bait us, don't fall for it.

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Some good points Christine, but I think there needs to be a counter-demo
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Anjem Choudary wrote
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The ranting cleric will lead disciples in a protest against the “promiscuity and materialism” of Christmas on a day when more than a million shoppers will in the world’s most famous shopping district.


For once I have got to agree with him.Christmas lost its true meaning many decades ago and now it is simply about profit rather than giving.But neither Choudary nor Islam provide the answer.The real culprit is corporate greed driven by bankers and in my opinion they are just as bad as political Islam.
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You cannot counter their demo as they are only protesting against what is wrong with our sociaty as has already been said do something to make people smile
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is EDL going to do anything about this?
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So Anjem Choudary says Christmas is a time of "materialism, drunkeness and promiscuity"

And here's me thinking that Christmas was the celebration of the birth of the Saviour :S
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I think an observation group there with cameras would suffice collecting evidence of religious hatred from this clown sand his foolish followers. Then one day at a time of our choosing to make a citizens arrest and take him and the evidence to the OB.
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Well we wouldn't be having a counter protest - we would just be having a big sing along with Santa Suits, Carols and smiles ;) Oxford Street is mighty long, the EDL don't need to be anywhere near them... "Sorry who is protesting? Ummmm never heard of him, does he want a mince pie" ^_^
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Dec 19 2010, 04:31 PM
So Anjem Choudary says Christmas is a time of "materialism, drunkeness and promiscuity"

And here's me thinking that Christmas was the celebration of the birth of the Saviour :S
I had actually thought this too :D Will be at our local crib service on Christmas Eve!
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A counter demo would do little to strengthen the EDL'S position as it would make it look like we are defending the obscene cult of materialism and coporate greed.Choudary hasn't said he has anything against people celebrating the real meaning of Christmas

For those not aware consumersim started in fifties America as a way of getting public support against Communism.By showing people the goverment could provide more for the people in terms of material goods it was hoped that Communism would fail to take hold.Thatcher used the same policy in the eighties to drive workers away from the unions.By allowing them to purchase their council owned rabbit hutches she thought the so-called pride in ownership would make them more responsible and less likely to strike.In all honesty she was right as she had tapped into human greed.

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It would be great to have a stand....and opposite them..so when shoppers/tourists get an ear-full...we can peacefully explain why...and what we stand for...just have to point the finger and show them.

I am prepared to run the stand. I am not scared of them...Hee hee I am brown..so kills the racist crap....I VOLENTEER....miss my kid but he is so far away. ...

lets get a stand....and make a stand...He can speak...Lets just apply for whatever permission and get the leaflets done within 5 days...

They wont attack an old Sikh ... I want to DO this....I baptised because of a reason. Let them ... will get more people to join the EDL...

Give me an interview... can beat them at their own game.....

No violence...can bite back...but too clever for Anjem
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Dec 19 2010, 03:40 PM
Some good points Christine, but I think there needs to be a counter-demo

Nope, I can't agree with you there.

Like I said in my previous post, re-read the op to establish what they have declared they are protesting about.



Imagine the news:

"Peaceful faith group warning of the dangers of drunkeness and loutish behaviour attacked by EDL"

"EDL cause chaos during christmas shopping"

"Anti drug campaigners attacked by EDL"



Don't rubbish this, Muzzie Command is playing nasty games here. They're starting from the moral high ground (as portrayed by the leftie controlled media) and you suggest the EDL fight this on the streets when decent people are out christmas shopping???

Never underestimate the enemy, they are not fools and play twisted games with devious minds.

What they are telling you is: The public will see us (islamists) as peaceful and that you (the EDL) attacked us.

They are baiting you, setting you up, can't you see this?

If you want to win the war you've got to think smart, play them at their own game and not allow them to set you up hook, line & sinker.

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Anjem Choudary wrote
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The ranting cleric will lead disciples in a protest against the “promiscuity and materialism” of Christmas on a day when more than a million shoppers will in the world’s most famous shopping district.


For once I have got to agree with him.Christmas lost its true meaning many decades ago and now it is simply about profit rather than giving.But neither Choudary nor Islam provide the answer.The real culprit is corporate greed driven by bankers and in my opinion they are just as bad as political Islam.
i also suggested the same thing in my post. christmas = bankrupcy! the true meaning is lost!
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Last night Choudary, 43, said: “Christmas is the complete anathema to Islam. Drunkenness, promiscuity and materialism are just a few of the issues we want to tackle.

“For us these are the ‘Evils of Christmas’. That’s why we are going to hold our latest roadshow in Oxford Street and Regent Street in the heartland of London’s best-known shopping district.

“Islam does away with the need for drugs and alcohol and all the other evils that are synonymous with Christmas.”


These statements are examples of religious hatred, attacking our Christian Christmas festival.

Wine is used in Holy Communion and is the holy Sacrament.

Muslims have ruined this country with the importation of Heroin and now Crack and it finances their terrorism. Muslims have been using Hashish for hundreds of years, they are even willing to deface the Koran by hollowing it out to hide Heroin to get it into U.K. There are stories of alcohol being used by Saudi Royals during orgies at their palaces and that some Muslims use alcohol themselves. As for promiscuity there are plenty of examples of their vile sexual practices happening now right here in England.

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I wonder whether the media would simply not even cover this like they did with the poppies.. surely with so many people seeing it they will have to.
Difficult about whether to do a counter protest, on one hand we dont want to turn the headlines into "EDL causes trouble" again, but i would hate to let them peddle their filth unnoposed...
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Alcohol = Wine as a reward for jihad
Promiscuity = 4 wives, paedophilia
Materialism = Killing all unbelievers and keeping all their stuff as spoils of war

They are in no position to judge us

We need to make sure shoppers etc are aware of this
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I remember two tears ago a christian was told to stop handing out leaflets in a muslim area in irmingham and was accused (but I do not know if he was prosecuted) of hate crime. Will be interesting to see waht the brirish media make of it.
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Dec 19 2010, 01:42 AM
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Dec 19 2010, 01:39 AM
shouldn't the edl stay away and just let the man go at it? Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself.
Yeah but it would be good if the EDL counter-demo was throwing Snowballs at him during the whole protest.
hahaha good idea
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dont counter this one
let them hang themselves
the decent thing to do is to stay with your families and enjoy christmas while it lasts , cuz by turning up to london , they have got their way and stopped christmas for us
counter protest this and they win a battle
dont let them stop your christmas . enjoy it with your families
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Choudry will do what he always does.

Make a lot of threats, stir up some sh1t..

Get you lot fizzing and off to london for the day...

And he Won't turn up!!!

He'll be sitting at home laughing his bollocks of at YOU!!!!!

Listen to Gazzads...

Stay at home and enjoy Christmas with your families.
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Dec 19 2010, 07:11 AM
Can anyone sing well? We need a Christmas Carol singing division pronto! (should that be panto?) No snowballs, just versus.

Or better yet, can't someone call the Salvation army and ask them to turn up with a proper choir?
Like the Idea
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Aahhh good old Choudary(Piss Be Upon Him)
Britain's favourite hate monger, ex druggie & pisshead. Then he got brainwashed, and now we're all sinners, did dums!

The geezer is a 100% drama queen, talks nonsense out of his 'Rusty Bullet Hole.' Keep it up Choudary, you're up there with Galloway and few other morons for contention of Asshole of the decade awards!
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I'm not being lectured about morals by a man like choudry who worships a sexist,anti-semetic,homosexual,violent cult which teaches non intergration.
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Part of me says "he should be confronted by us" and part of me says "best not"... they are so sneaky that they will start playing 'the victim' game again if there is any confrontation by the EDL. Their sneaky 'baiting' techniques will definetely give EDL bad publicity... i hope the public laugh at him on the street, im shocked that he's allowed to do this!..hope he makes the biggest fool of himself and the public WAKE UP to what is happening within our communities, its appaulling it makes me sick..
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hahahah! From the horses mouth - enjoy ppl
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Goes against what I normally say - but I`d leave him to it. The general public will see him for what he is - a twat. They won`t be bothered with his usual rants throughout the Summer - but they won`t want their Christmas shopping messed with.

Let him do it - if he actually shows up.
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I remember two tears ago a christian was told to stop handing out leaflets in a muslim area in irmingham and was accused (but I do not know if he was prosecuted) of hate crime. Will be interesting to see waht the brirish media make of it.
I remember that story. It was sensationalised by the press into them being told not to distribute the Christian literature or they'd be prosecuted. It was Alum Rock in Brum. They were posting and handing out fundamentalist Christian stuff and the police arrived and offered to escort them from the area as they were worried they'd be attacked.
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I remember two tears ago a christian was told to stop handing out leaflets in a muslim area in irmingham and was accused (but I do not know if he was prosecuted) of hate crime. Will be interesting to see waht the brirish media make of it.
I remember that story. It was sensationalised by the press into them being told not to distribute the Christian literature or they'd be prosecuted. It was Alum Rock in Brum. They were posting and handing out fundamentalist Christian stuff and the police arrived and offered to escort them from the area as they were worried they'd be attacked.
were they american guys? if so i think the video was put on here a week or so ago.
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google `Christian preachers in Alum Rock`.

Its the first story - but it won`t let me link it.
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We should set up our own stalls, near-by

We should have a wine & pork sausage fair,

Give out free wine and pork sausages to the hungry hoardes of Christmas shoppers, on a note of goodwill, amidst a friendly and peaceable choir, singing Christmas carols

Basically, let's surround 'em with sausage ! lol

But on a more serious note I think the choir is a good idea !
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I remember two tears ago a christian was told to stop handing out leaflets in a muslim area in irmingham and was accused (but I do not know if he was prosecuted) of hate crime. Will be interesting to see waht the brirish media make of it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2058935/Police-advise-Christian-preachers-to-leave-Muslim-area-of-Birmingham.html
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EDL should stay away tbh, instead we should make sure organisations like Christian Voice and other religious groups know about this, and let them protest against this joke? Also do a press release condemning Choudry and his sycophants?


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There's now a carol service being organised via fb called:

Oppose Ajem Choudary - Carol Service (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001801699056#!/event.php?eid=178909035460964)


Time 24 December · 11:00 - 16:00

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Location Oxford Street - London

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Created by: English Defence League - London Region

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More info -Christmas protest on Britain’s busiest shopping street.The terrorist supporter is heading to London’s Oxford Street on Christmas Eve to try to convert a million “lost souls" * to oppose xmas. However, will will let our voices sing & show them christmas still lives!

Times mat change!


I just don't know WTF is going on now but fear the day will not end well.

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Dec 19 2010, 09:17 PM
I'm not being lectured about morals by a man like choudry who worships a sexist,anti-semetic,homosexual,violent cult which teaches non intergration.
er.....I hope you meant "homophobic".
If not, and you're right, then I'm off to join up. ;) :D :D

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