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How do I complain about my A level politics teacher?
Topic Started: Dec 19 2010, 12:03 AM (521 Views)
LeeS
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In my mock exam I had a question about pressure groups it asked: What is the different between an insider and an outsider pressure group, use examples...

So I did as the question asked wrote about the equality and human rights comission as a insider group, then went onto the EDL (why not i know alot about the EDL as I've been going on demos since september last year... and im actually apart of the pressure group), the comment I get on my paper was that she did not consider the EDL to be a pressure group as we are "undemocratic", her justification of this when challenged was that we are "racist" and in a democracy racist groups cannot be "pressure groups", and she could hardly justify her argument...

After class she held me and my friend back who challenged her on this issue... she said she did not wish to discuss the EDL in class as she does not want a "hostile" enviroment... She "advised" us not to bring this up as there are people of other "colours" in the class (im not a racist tho and your not allowing me to justify myself as not being racist!).

How would I go about complaining against her, as she clearly has a bias, she said I did not "lose" any marks, but she did not award me any marks for using the EDL as an example which means I did not fulfil the criteria of the question therefore making me lose marks for not providing in her view a valid pressure group...
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You not got a head of year you can speak to?

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we have a head tutor, and principles etc but im worried about being labelled as racist by them aswell, is there a formal procedure for making complaints against teachers for this sort of thing of being bias, for example if the teacher was a BNP member how would I complain (as an example)
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You should collect some evidence to prove she is totally wrong about the racism and therefore biased and ignorant.
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Arrrgggghhhhhh

This type of thing makes me fume. Write to her, copy it to headmaster and to the director of education of your local authority. Ask that she, in writing, provides empirical evidence that edl is racist group (NOT heresay 3rd party opinion) and is not democratic. In fact i would say it is uber-democratic. Use my quote from the spectator in another thread to support your arguement.

Thats the advice I would give my own a level student daughter. Good Luck. Dont be bullied.

Ask that the whole class be asked to investigate the edl in depth and shine the light on the racially inclusive nature of the group and exactly the aspects of islam we are offended by
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The country is now run by a load of people who have done politics at Oxford and has never been in a worse state.

Ask her if she feels Lord Ashcroft for the Tories or the Union block vote in the Labour party can be considered democratic.

No, just ignore her, and get your A-Level, but if she asks, refuse to discuss your own political view with her due to her prejudices.

Or better still, ask to study a subject that puts a useless mouthpiece like her out of a job and would be better for you and your country such as a Science or Mathematics.
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leftie teacher who knows fcuk all marking papers, and we wonder why we have kids leaving school without an ounce of sense these days ...

as someone already stated, collect the evidence / facts .. and present them with the essay to the head of the year for her/him to review

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LeeS
Dec 19 2010, 12:11 AM
we have a head tutor, and principles etc but im worried about being labelled as racist by them aswell, is there a formal procedure for making complaints against teachers for this sort of thing of being bias, for example if the teacher was a BNP member how would I complain (as an example)
If you want my advice, keep your head down and get your education, ignore provocation like this as they have all the odds weighed in their favour. Revenge is a dish best served cold, and you can do it in many ways once you have got your qualifications.
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Really? Keep your head down and don't upset the Islamists? My grandparents did not fight for that, neither did yours :(
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no willa is right, however tempting dont rock the boat. patience my frieind.
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Dec 19 2010, 12:35 AM
Really? Keep your head down and don't upset the Islamists? My grandparents did not fight for that, neither did yours :(
They will be better equipped to 'fight' with a full undisrupted education under their belt. No need to bite your nose offf to spite your face IMO. Acting impulsively out of pride or defiance is an English trait, it is a trait we have often lived to regret, there is nothing wrong with keeping your powder dry for a later date
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You don't complain, your parents complain on your behalf. If that's not on the cards accept it and move on. Most teachers have never been outside the education system, and see themselves as being beyond and above their students. That said the good ones are worth their weight in gold.

The one weapon she can be hit with is her charge of racism. If you argued your exam paper well then you will have conceded that some that attach themselves to the EDL are racist, most are not, and the EDL is not.

The most likely case is that your best bet is just to keep your head down and play the system. That said I've never been on that could do that. It's cost me. Still I can look at myself in a mirror.
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you do yourselves disservice sirs

i wasn't educated here though, i was educated in a country that encouraged us to question everything and never back down if we felt our position was right and honourable. I wouldn't let my kids take this.

This has made me sad. Agree tho the parents should go mental with the school.
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I had the same problem when i brough up the BNP in 2006 in a political class.

Theres nothing you can do the system is against us and there nothing to change their minds.

Just keep your head down and get on with it.
The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.
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Islam is not a race, so correct her on the racism issue.
Ask her to write or e-mail you her concerns to be absolutely clear, then compose a valid argument in response, don't be rude, just stick to the facts. Interested to hear how you get on buddy...
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LeeS
Dec 19 2010, 12:11 AM
we have a head tutor, and principles etc but im worried about being labelled as racist by them aswell, is there a formal procedure for making complaints against teachers for this sort of thing of being bias, for example if the teacher was a BNP member how would I complain (as an example)
Point out that a democracy is the will of the people, even if a group of people are racists, it is still the voice of the people.

If 100% of England wanted to vote for the KKK, that would be democracy.

If that group was ignored because they are racist, you are calling the will of the people wrong and are therefore no longer a democracy.

If 'Will of the people' = Wrong
then not democracy

Call her a stupid fcuking cnut while you're at it.
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
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PHDTS ;)
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As a university student ... keep your head down... play their game get good grades and get your degree... no use in causing a shirt storm over it
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Dec 19 2010, 07:15 AM
As a university student ... keep your head down... play their game get good grades and get your degree... no use in causing a shirt storm over it
fcuk that. Their god is Reason, they should be brought to it constantly.
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It is your choice. You can just take the fact that she is not a good politics teacher on the chin and carry on to gain your qualification. Or you can point out her flaws as a teacher and the errors she has made. Personally I would pick the former as school staff are usually pretty dictatorial when it comes to students and are in a greater position of control and power than is necessary.
You may end up feeling better about yourself having made your point but who can say how it could affect your education and future. Best to avoid controversial topics until your final year at university...you never know who is marking your papers.

As to your teacher she is fundamentally wrong in saying that a pressure group needs to be democratic to qualify for that title...Stonewall the hugely successful and well-known pressure group is run by a closed board, admission to which is by invitation only.
I would also refer you to the press release made by the leadership of the EDL on the subject of Pastor Terry Jones. In it you can see that the EDL states clearly its anti-racist and anti-homphobia stance, as well as the fact that the leadership listened and acted on the views of its membership.
Keep in mind that you have not been taught "politics" but your teacher's "personal view of politics" and there could be other "errors" she has slipped in to her lectures.

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Your first stop is your Head Master make an appointment to see Him/Her show your work and then discuss the subject with Him/Her, do your home work gather your facts and have your answer's prepared. By approaching this in an adult manner you should be given a fair hearing.
Always try to keep school problems in house only if you do not have a satisfactory conclusion should you take the matter outside of the school.
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I learned the hard way mate, in high school always write what the lame arse commie teachers want to hear, you will pass, and then when you leave school it's all good, you wont convert them in school, don't even try.
You will just get pain and headaches and sh1t marks because of it.
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Take the matter up with your Year Teacher and also the Head.

Your teacher will start wetting herself when she realises you are serious and can cause her career a huge problem.

As this is an exam course, ask the examining board what their policy is regarding academic impartiality. Inform the school that you are doing this. This will cause panic! Put yourself into the mindset of the school hierarchy. The last thing they want is controversy, especially if it could affect their OFSTED report.

This teacher is more vulnerable than you think, you will probably find other teachers who are on your side not hers.

Don't be afraid of her bullying. You are in a much stronger position than you think.

PM me if you want assistance in writing any letters.

Good luck.
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engage your teacher in debate as to her reasons , show her that the E.D.L is agianst sharia law , and the islamification of the british isles . shine the light on islam and let her see the truth.
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Start recording lectures to take notes from. ;) You can refer to this material later and quote her verbatim when you make any complaints.
A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Sir W.Churchill
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Do what John Lyons did at my alma mater. The woodwork teacher had a right go at him so when he saw him playing badmington one evening at the sports hall he climbed on the roof of his car and left a steaming turd for him. Happy giggly days was school.
It is obvious that there are people with racist views on this site but it does not make the EDL a racist organisation,individual views are individual views. I think it impossile that there are no racists voting,actually voting for Labour,Conservative and Liberals yet they would never class those political parties as racist organisations. Once again out comes the most hated word in the English language to be used once again to stifle speech. Even if the organisation were a blatant racist organisation it is still a pressure group and a viable example,I fail to see what right the teacher has to make that decision.
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melaniearden
Dec 19 2010, 01:05 AM
you do yourselves disservice sirs

i wasn't educated here though, i was educated in a country that encouraged us to question everything and never back down if we felt our position was right and honourable. I wouldn't let my kids take this.

This has made me sad. Agree tho the parents should go mental with the school.
I agree with you.

This is how the Islamists further their cause by constantly pushing and questioning. It seems to be the British way, to not cause a fuss. Hence the mess we're in
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Dec 19 2010, 03:12 AM
I had the same problem when i brough up the BNP in 2006 in a political class.

Theres nothing you can do the system is against us and there nothing to change their minds.

Just keep your head down and get on with it.
i Agree don't mention it to a teacher again.
try and get your mates into edl, especially if they have similar views to you.
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Go to your Headteacher and firstly question the stance of the school with regards to freedom of speech and see what is said.

If you then move onto the issue of the EDL say that the EDL is not racist and has a significant following of people that are worried about where the country is heading and question why free speech is continuously suppressed on this issue in a supposed democratic society? Question if he thinks that is a good thing? to have people unable to raise opinions and provoke debate?

You are likely not to win but it will always be interesting to question things like this and the stance people take. Don't complain or get into arguments, stay calm. Question them continuously and take note of the reaction. You will see the hypocrisy for yourself if you probe properly.
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I agree with those that tell you to keep a low profile for now.
Get your education, get a career and then you can live how you want to live, isolate the people you want to isolate and stick for your beliefs.
But for now keep quiet. Once you get qualified you can always name and shame the teacher and or school on a website (providing you stick to the truth and have evidence you cannot be sued shoudl you do this at some stage).
Once you are independent you will be able to choose who you mix with and you can discard trash like this commie teacher.
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And if all else fails, dog sh1t under the door handles of her car.
Never see it coming. Always a favourite :D
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