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| Iraqi asylum seeker who ran over girl whilst banned from driving allowed to stay here; Scum. | |
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| jim bromley | Dec 16 2010, 09:52 PM Post #51 |
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I dont think anyone does give a sh1t about him. What i cant understand is he done only 4 months for killing the little girl.Where's the justice there? |
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| Steve Freedom | Dec 16 2010, 09:55 PM Post #52 |
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agreed 100% mate ...
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| Dimebag | Dec 16 2010, 10:00 PM Post #53 |
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Disgrace. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2010, 10:00 PM Post #54 |
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i almost decked a work colleague today over this ... my point was, he should never been on the road in the first place .... the guy at work said 'the girl shouldn't be on the road' ....... i had to walk away or i would had lost my job .... but there are so many wrongs with this case 1 - he is an immigrant awaiting his status to remain to be clarified and yet he has children .... while he waits knowing that he always had the risk of being returned to his native country 2 - 4 months prison sentence for killing the girl whilst banned from driving, he should had received a sentence on par with man slaughter, he got in a car and drove it knowing full well that he was not allowed to drive, that is like pointing a loaded gun at someone's head ... 3 - he should be deported, what's wrong with the human rights of the girl that died, oh wait she is dead.. she doesn't have any as for the kids he had, see point 1 .... tough .... i am very angry about this one and i hope i never cross the guy in real life, because to be frank .. i'd happily do time .... |
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| Deleted User | Dec 16 2010, 10:31 PM Post #55 |
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I haven't even bothered to read the story the title was enough for me. I'm well and truly sick to the stomach and fucked off at reading these stories about illegal immigrants and asylum seekers running down innocent English kids. One of the fuckers did the same thing in my home town about seven years back and killed two teenage lads. The judges that are soft on these fuckers, should have their balls smashed between two bricks. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 01:50 AM Post #56 |
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There's now a fb group called Justice for Amy Houston!: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=83634265879 |
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| wodin | Dec 17 2010, 10:27 AM Post #57 |
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MR Houston is to start lobbying MPs, he is hoping to garner enough support as to change the law on this, I hope Bliars bitch wife can sleep at night in her socialist millionairs mansion. We should get behind this gentleman and show him our support, any ideas Kinsmen/women? |
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Thanks to the Human Rights Act David Cameron promised her father he'd scrap By JACK DOYLE and JAYA NARAIN Last updated at 9:08 AM on 17th December 2010 Comments (488) Father says 'criminals have free rein' after losing battle to deport driver Failed asylum seeker Aso Mohammed Ibrahim had a string of convictions Outcome 'may have been different' if Iraqi didn't have children, judges say David Cameron was accused last night of breaking a personal pledge to scrap the Human Rights Act after a failed asylum seeker who killed a 12-year-old girl used the discredited law to stay in Britain. Aso Mohammed Ibrahim knocked down Amy Houston and left her to ‘die like a dog’ under the wheels of his car. He was driving while disqualified and after the little girl’s death he committed a string of further offences. Earlier this year Mr Cameron wrote to Amy’s father promising reforms that would ensure ‘that rights are better balanced against responsibilities’. He said the Human Rights Act would be replaced by a British Bill of Rights. But yesterday Ibrahim, an Iraqi Kurd, won his lengthy fight to stay in Britain. 'Ridiculous': Aso Mohammed Ibrahim will be allowed to remain in the UK despite leaving Amy Houston, 12, dying under the wheels of his car in November 2003, because deporting him would 'breach his human rights' Immigration judges ruled that sending him home would breach his right to a ‘private and family life’ as he has now fathered two children in the UK. Last night Amy’s father Paul branded the Act an ‘abomination to civilised society’. He said: ‘This decision shows the Human Rights Act to be nothing more than a charter for thieves, killers, terrorists and illegal immigrants.’ The ruling heaped pressure on Mr Cameron to reinstate a Tory pre-election pledge to abolish the HRA and replace it with a British Bill of Rights. He stated that pledge unequivocally in a letter to Mr Houston, written in January when he was still Leader of the Opposition, and shortly after the death of his son Ivan. It began: ‘As someone who sadly has been recently bereaved, I do have a little idea of what you must have been through.’ Last night Mr Houston, a 41-year-old engineer, made a direct plea to Mr Cameron to think again. He said: ‘He needs to take a long, hard look at himself and make the right decision for this country because as it stands the Human Rights Act is on the side of criminals, terrorists and thieves against law-abiding citizens. ‘He wrote to me to say he would bring in the British Bill of Rights but that appears to have been put in the back burner because of the Coalition. ‘I don’t want to see this matter sidelined. I think it needs to be placed very firmly on the agenda again. If he has got the courage of his convictions that is what he will do. Angry: Paul Houston, father of Amy, said today: 'This is a perversity of our society' ‘The law does need to be changed so that it properly represents everyone – not just this awful minority who ruin people’s lives.’ Mr Houston, of Darwen, Lancashire, said he was ‘absolutely devastated’ by the decision to allow Ibrahim to stay in the country indefinitely. ‘How can he say he’s deprived of his right to a family life? The only person deprived of a family life is me. Amy was my family.’ Amy was Mr Houston’s only child and for medical reasons he is unable to have any more children. The case fuelled deep concern on the Tory backbenches. One MP branded the Act the ‘Criminals’ Rights Act’ and repeated calls for it to be scrapped. No minister was prepared to comment directly about the case, but Downing Street issued a statement ‘sharing Mr Houston’s anger’. The UK Border Agency said it was ‘extremely disappointed’ with the decision. Ibrahim, now 33, arrived in Britain hidden in the back of a lorry in January 2001. His application for asylum was refused and a subsequent appeal in November 2002 failed, but he was never sent home. In 2003, while serving a nine-month driving ban for not having insurance or a licence, he ploughed into Amy near her mother’s home in Blackburn. He ran away, leaving her conscious and trapped beneath the wheels of his black Rover. Six hours later her father had to take the heartbreaking decision to turn off her life-support system. But despite leaving Amy to die, Ibrahim was jailed for just four months after admitting driving while disqualified and failing to stop after an accident. Since his release from prison he has accrued a string of further convictions, including more driving offences, harassment and cautions for burglary and theft. 'The image of Amy taking her final breath, dying a foot away from me as I sat by her bedside holding her hand praying for a miracle, will stay with me till the day I die.' He also met a British woman, Christina Richardson, and fathered two children with her, Harry, four, and Zara, three. Border Agency officials finally began attempts to remove him from the country in October 2008. Ibrahim’s lawyers argued sending him back to Iraq would breach Article 8 of the Human Rights Act, which guarantees his right to a private and family life with his children. When the case first came before an immigration judge in June last year, Home Office lawyers said Ibrahim should be removed because of his persistent criminality. Ibrahim told the court he had became a father figure to Miss Richardson’s two children from a previous relationship and was even helping them with their homework. This account was dismissed as ‘clearly not credible’ after Ibrahim admitted he could barely speak English. The judge accepted that Ibrahim’s behaviour was ‘abhorrent’ and branded his evidence ‘contradictory and unsatisfactory’. However he ruled that he had developed a ‘significant and substantial’ relationship with the children and was acting as their father. Only child: Amy's death deprived Mr Houston of family life as he is unable to have further children The UK Border Agency launched an appeal against the decision. Lawyers for the agency argued that there was little evidence that he was living at the same address as his own children. But yesterday the Upper Immigration Tribunal threw out the appeal, saying the judge had considered the case in a ‘legally correct’ way. In a letter to the tribunal, Mr Houston made an impassioned plea for Ibrahim to be sent back to Iraq, saying his right to a family life with Amy should outweigh the rights of Ibrahim. He wrote: ‘On the evening of November 23 2003, Mr Ibrahim struck Amy. He didn’t kill her outright, she was still conscious. ‘She was fully aware of what was happening around her even though she had the full weight of the engine block of the car on top of her, she was crying because she was frightened and in a lot of pain... he could have at least tried to help. ‘Amy suffered for six hours before the doctors advised me to switch off the life support machine . . . it was highly unlikely she would survive and if she was to live would be a “cabbage”. ‘The image of Amy taking her final breath, dying a foot away from me as I sat by her bedside holding her hand praying for a miracle, will stay with me till the day I die.’ Last night Mr Houston said: ‘No wonder asylum seekers are queuing up at the borders to get in when they see decisions like this. ‘They realise that whatever they do, be it burglar, rape or murder, they can use the laws to ensure they are able to stay in Britain. ‘The immigration judges have ruled he had a right to a family life. What about my right to a family life with my daughter? ‘That was taken away in the most horrendously cruel fashion by a serial criminal who has never contributed to our society.’ He pledged to continue his seven-year fight for justice and is seeking legal advice over the possibility of a judicial review. Ministers are considering whether to take the case to the Court of Appeal. Backbench Tory MPs said the case showed how the Human Rights Act was preventing ministers from controlling Britain’s borders. MP Douglas Carswell said: ‘If we take the tribunal’s findings to their logical conclusion we would leave an open door to the world.’ This is the latest in a string of cases to provoke outrage over the Act. Last month Learco Chindamo, who stabbed headmaster Philip Lawrence to death, was returned to jail over an alleged robbery. In opposition, the Prime Minister cited the failure to deport Chindamo as a prime reason why the law should be scrapped. The Tories campaigned on a promise to bring in a British Bill of Rights to replace Labour’s Human Rights Act, but within weeks of the General Election result, the pledge was downgraded and replaced by a commitment to a review, effectively kicking the policy into the long grass. A Downing Street spokesman said: ‘We fully understand Mr Houston’s distress and frustration at what has happened, and we share his anger. “The Government is committed to establishing a Commission during 2011 to investigate the creation of a UK Bill of Rights that protects and extends British liberties.’ Mr Cameron and a betrayal of British justice Yesterday was a sickening day for justice in this country. To any sane mind, failed asylum seeker Aso Mohammed Ibrahim, who ran down 12-year-old Amy Houston and, in the words of the girl’s father, left her to ‘die like a dog’ under his car, should be deported. Instead, judges ruled this serial Iraqi criminal, who sneaked into Britain in the back of a lorry nine years ago, should be allowed to remain here permanently. Disgracefully, the immigration tribunal decided that — under Labour’s insidious Human Rights Act — Ibrahim has a right to a ‘family life’ in order to care for his British wife and two children, fathered after he killed Amy. To hell with the family — and young life — he so casually destroyed. In response to this terrible injustice, Amy’s father, Paul, tells the Mail: ‘This decision shows the Human Rights Act to be nothing more than a charter for thieves, killers, terrorists and illegal immigrants. The rights of the criminal have been favoured over the rights of the victim and that is an abomination to civilised society.’ Who is the victim? : Ibrahim ran away as Amy was left trapped beneath his car yet sickeningly immigration officials have decided he can stay because of his right to a 'family life' And what a criminal Ibrahim has been. Consider: after taking Amy’s life in 2003, he received a derisory four-month jail term for driving while disqualified, and fleeing the scene. Upon release, the shambolic Home Office then took no action to deport him — allowing him to have the children which, under the Human Rights Act, would later form the basis of his claim to a ‘family life’ in the UK. Meanwhile, showing not a shred of remorse for his actions, Ibrahim was returning to a life of crime. Burglary ... theft ... harassment ... damage to property ... possession of drugs. Shockingly, in 2006, he even repeated the same offence for which he was convicted in the wake of Amy’s death: driving while disqualified and uninsured. Each of these individual acts of criminality should have landed him back in prison. But — this being modern, liberal Britain — he escaped with community punishments and fines. Justice Secretary Ken Clarke should read this and hang his head in shame. One of the judges, confronted with Ibrahim’s criminality, conceded that his behaviour was ‘abhorrent’ — then ruled he could stay anyway. One man, however, who did take a stand against this mockery of justice is the current PM, David Cameron. While leader of the Opposition, Mr Cameron — in January of this year — wrote to Amy’s father committing his party to scrapping the Human Rights Act. The intention, said Mr Cameron, was to stop the likes of Ibrahim from using their right to a family life to ‘play the legal system for years and years’. Mr Cameron’s pledge was hugely popular with his party and voters exasperated by the way the Act was being abused. No remorse: One judge described Ibrahim as 'abhorent' yet allowed him to stay to continue his life of burglary, theft, harrassment and drugs possession Witness how Abu Hamza and Abu Qatada, two of the world’s worst terrorists, used the Act to thwart the authorities’ every attempt to throw them out of Britain. Or how a group of nine Afghans who hijacked a Boeing in 2000 and flew it to Stansted were allowed to stay here. According to government figures, 350 foreign criminals are escaping deportation under human rights law every year. Beneficiaries include illegal immigrant Ahsan Sabri, who killed writer Sophie Warne after speeding through a red light, Somalian Mohammed Kendeh, convicted of raping two British women, and — most notoriously — Learco Chindamo, who killed headteacher Phillip Lawrence, and who escaped deportation back to Italy on the grounds he had moved to the UK as a child. Again, the rights of Mr Lawrence’s family to receive justice were subservient to the right of Chindamo to his ‘family life’. In response to the case of Chindamo, who is now back behind bars for allegedly breaching the terms of his licence, Mr Cameron again took a firm position, saying: ‘It is a glaring example of what is going wrong in our country.’ And, on the case for abolishing the Human Rights Act, he was unequivocal. Speaking while still leader of the Opposition, he said: ‘The problem for this [Labour] Government is that the Human Rights Act is their legislation and they appear to be blind to its failings. ‘We ought to abolish the Human Rights Act and replace it with a British Bill of Rights that we can write ourselves that sets out clearly our rights and responsibilities.’ Since these words were spoken, no doubt in all sincerity, nothing has changed, apart from the fact that Mr Cameron appears to have now lost the political will to do something about this scandal. Within a fortnight of the General Election, he announced that the Act would merely be subject to a long-term policy review, kicking it into the long grass for the duration of the current Parliament. The Prime Minister will doubtless point out that he was forced to change his position to form a working government with the Liberals. The Mail accepts some compromises were a necessary price for forming a stable Coalition, capable of tackling the terrifying budget deficit left behind by Labour. But, in the case of the Human Rights Act, Mr Cameron could — and should — have stood his ground. However noble the original intentions of this legislation may have been, it has had a corrosive effect on British life. If British people see foreign criminals almost literally getting away with murder, why should they respect the law themselves. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339142/Asylum-seeker-Aso-Mohammed-Ibrahim-let-girl-12-die-stay-UK.html#ixzz18MNypJAc |
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| pete | Dec 17 2010, 11:06 AM Post #59 |
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He was allowed to stay because of 'his' children and a right to family life...they are not even his kids ffs! He got together with ms Richardson who had two children from s previous relationship. By the way, the lords debated protesters wearing masks yesterday, lab and cons were in agreement but Ukip's lord Pearson questioned Muslims wearing burkas. Good man. |
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| wodin | Dec 17 2010, 12:39 PM Post #60 |
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As one Burkha wearing muslim woman said to her Burkha wearing friend whilst trying on rucksacks in a camping shop. "Does my bomb look big in this"? lol |
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 12:45 PM Post #61 |
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British justice has gone further down the toilet. |
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| wodin | Dec 17 2010, 01:16 PM Post #62 |
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Agreed Shelfy!
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 01:23 PM Post #63 |
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wodin , you are usually the best member on here, with regards to decency . time and place for jokes this topic aint the place for jest sorry mate but this subject churns my insides
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| videoman | Dec 17 2010, 02:03 PM Post #64 |
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This should not be allowed to rest ! we should demand the twat is sent back to his own country, locked up for the rest of his Fcuking life, remove both his legs,and fed on dog sh1t (scum of the planet) |
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 02:05 PM Post #65 |
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Don´t sit on the fence mate. |
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| vms hater | Dec 17 2010, 02:26 PM Post #66 |
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see the do gooder scum stick together with the lawless asylum seeker trash wheres our human fcuking rights |
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| Capt Haddock | Dec 17 2010, 02:26 PM Post #67 |
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This sad episode is just the tip of a massive iceberg; the human rights act, whatever the original intentions, is nothing but a farce that goes a long way in protecting the perpetrators of criminal activity rather than the unfortunate victims. What is sickening is the very fact that government do not listen to the people of this country. They just presume they know best and act without consultation, or with very little regard for the greater good of communities up and down the land. This Iraqi scumbag is not here because of any threat to his life (unless of course he's committed similar offences back there) He is simply here, like millions of them, to laugh in all our faces: soft touch Britain. The poor git was so afraid of his life he had to travel across the whole continent of Europe to get here. Why? Because these people already knew the previous government had an open door policy for all. The human rights bill is a travesty of human rights! It protects idiots that shouldn't have any rights here in the first place. Government IS responsible for this fiasco, both main parties only deliver promises and fcuking lies. Edited by Capt Haddock, Dec 17 2010, 02:39 PM.
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| euanedj | Dec 17 2010, 02:45 PM Post #68 |
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This is the problem with this country, completely disgusted. Although the EU is good for trade and other things. These Human rights are getting in the way of our people and is enough for me to say i would rather that our country should stay out of the EU. British lives are more important. May be it is time our country is more insular. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 02:48 PM Post #69 |
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it's been on the lunchtime news jack straw has written to the home secretary to ask her to look at the case,don't hold your breath |
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| wodin | Dec 17 2010, 02:50 PM Post #70 |
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Can't argue with that Video man!
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| jojo edl angel | Dec 17 2010, 02:58 PM Post #71 |
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UnfookinBelievable! Just aswell you managed to walk away! As for the British Justice system 1 word Cesspit |
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| Capt Haddock | Dec 17 2010, 02:58 PM Post #72 |
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What Jack "The english ain't worth saving' Straw? He's another 2 bob cnut i'd like to knock the fcuk out.
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| ototheb85 | Dec 17 2010, 02:59 PM Post #73 |
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I have a 6 year old daughter and and I cant imagin what he is thinking right now, I bet he feels let down by his country, and the justice systems! his probable been a working man from a a young age, paying his taxes, paying the wages of thos who kept the murderer in the country! im upset by this but it dont matter what we say the decision has been made!! |
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| dinkydee | Dec 17 2010, 03:01 PM Post #74 |
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Give the father ten minutes alone with him, then throw what's left into the cargo hold of the next plane bound for Iraq.
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| vms hater | Dec 17 2010, 03:03 PM Post #75 |
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phew that was a close one aussie coast guard. why is this country so worried about what happens to this sh1t if its returned home puzzled. Edited by vms hater, Dec 17 2010, 03:10 PM.
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 04:17 PM Post #76 |
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petition to have him deported http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/julius07/ |
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Signed. |
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| wodin | Dec 17 2010, 04:28 PM Post #78 |
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Because the so called fcuking "Government" in this country of "ours" would rather put the filth ethnic vote before us, so they can continue riding the fcuking gravy train mate, thats why!!!!!!!1 |
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 04:32 PM Post #79 |
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ive also pinned a link to the petition in EDL chat |
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 06:20 PM Post #80 |
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There is some hope, although I wouldn´t hold your breath. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-12021243 |
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| itnationalist | Dec 17 2010, 07:44 PM Post #81 |
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"He also met a British woman, Christina Richardson" wtf. I repeat myself, a lot of these lot go out with british women to get them pregnant so they can stay here. Yet again another british woman falling for one of these parasites. This needs to stop and unfortunately it is a growing trend. Can't women see what these guys are all about beyond their "exotic" look? |
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| Deleted User | Dec 17 2010, 10:38 PM Post #82 |
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I'll hold your coat, Sir! |
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| 666paul | Dec 17 2010, 11:27 PM Post #83 |
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How anybody can think this person has a right to stay in this country, when he has killed a person under these circumstances is unbelievable? If he had stayed at the scene of the accident and tried to help and because it was an accident, and had genuine remorse for his actions, this sentence might have sounded a bit fairer, because accidents do happen! His track record is one of utter contempt for the laws of this country. This man has forfeited his human rights! He should be deported on completion of his sentence , if his family wants to join him upon deportation and still has respect for him, they have the option of joining him wherever he lives. but not in this country!!!! |
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| yuuup | Dec 18 2010, 02:42 AM Post #84 |
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Someone married this lowlife and fathered his kids. You couldn't make it up. If I was the father of the poor girl that died I wouldn't be able to be so dignified. I wouldn't be able to control myself. |
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| Irish_Kid | Dec 18 2010, 03:36 AM Post #85 |
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http://britishfreedom.org/2010/12/the-human-wrongs-act/ A good article on that report. I bet the Kurdish immigrant now have police protection. |
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| hornet | Dec 18 2010, 12:09 PM Post #86 |
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a young lad round here just got 4 years for burglary ok he probably deserved it but lets put this into perspective 4 years for stealing someones property 4 months for stealing a young girls life it dont make sense |
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| Deleted User | Dec 18 2010, 12:50 PM Post #87 |
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Crimes against property seem to carry far more weighty sentencing for some reason. Either way 4 months is a joke. Granted this piece of sh1t didn't mean to kill her but the fact is that he did and was breaking the law while he did so. This wasn't the first time that this illegal piece of trash had broken the law and even after mowing down and killing this poor kid he took to the road illegally AGAIN further endangering other INNOCENT people. Ok so this piece of rubbish has human rights, we all do and they are there for a reason but when determining whether somebody can stay in this country they should be given a fit and proper test. Apply this test to ALL immigrants! Ask the question - "Will allowing them to stay here add value to our society?" If the answer is no then all other rights aside they get a plane ticket. Simple as. Allowing this wanker to stay is adding no value to our society in fact it is quite the opposite. His presence in this country doesn't 'enrich' our culture, it sours it! He has already demonstrated that he has no regard for human life and that he has no respect for the law or the for the people of a country who gave him somewhere to live. I was so angry about this last night that I broke my keyboard into a thousand pieces. Have only just got back from the shop with a new one. It really made me that angry and it still does. What is wrong with this country when something like this is allowed to happen? What is wrong with this government that they allow this to happen over and over again? Why do we stand for this sh1t over and over again? Why do we allow them to treat us like this? This is OUR country, this is our government who WE pay a great deal to do the job of running this country and when they allow bullsh1t like this to happen it is quite apparent that they aren't doing the job properly and are not fit for purpose. Something needs to change and drastically. |
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| TheHoff | Dec 18 2010, 02:19 PM Post #88 |
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If you you saw him in the street and called him "a pakistani cnut!!!!" you'd get alot longer than four months for racial abuse. Obviously in the eyes of the ruling class a killing a white girl is not a serious as offending a muslim. I cannot believe it has got this bad. |
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| videoman | Dec 18 2010, 08:47 PM Post #89 |
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Twats like that make me sick.would not be saying that if she had been his kid.should have decked the arse hole |
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| zak14 | Dec 18 2010, 08:51 PM Post #90 |
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Sign this, probably wont make any difference but makes you feel better ! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mohammedibrahim/ |
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| fireman_tim | Dec 19 2010, 01:26 PM Post #91 |
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Forced deportation of all muslims would be a good start. |
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