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Demos in Russia
Topic Started: Dec 15 2010, 10:08 PM (641 Views)
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Many of my mates are asking what is going on in Russia with these riots and there's also some interest on this site too. As there's surely not much info on the BBC, just a brief explanation of events:

5 Muslims kill a Russian Spartak Moscow fan during a fight. Muslims get arrested but after hundred or so of their lovely ethnic community turn up at the police station 4 of them are released on bail.

The news are spread around the capital and thousands of Moscow football fans and casuals gather in Manezhnaya square (aka Chechenplatz - minorities favourite place which they daily use for dancing, singing and fighting). They protest against corruption and political correctness demanding immediate arrest of all those involved in the shooting. Riot police turns up in their numbers and with some riots and arrests taking place.

Newspapers describe the demonstration as far-right and nationalist riot. Ethnic minorities agree to meet in Kievskaya square with "arguments" (knifes, guns, baseball bats) to stage a counter-"demo".

Hundreds of Muslims turn up to the demo but they are largely overwhelmed by Russians. Most of Muslims are immediately arrested for knives, firearms etc possession - well done to police. Minor fights take place but the situation is under control.



IMHO - there were quite a few idiots at the demos playing nazi, there were quite a few taking it too far but the key message is - people are tired of muslimization. People are standing against other cultures imposing their beliefs upon them.

More to come?
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good show
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I think Islam is picking the wrong fight here. Russia will destroy them.
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good to hear russia has had enough mate
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nice to see the russians showing up now... im still not going there for the world cup mind
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No matter where they go,the Islamists never fail to upset the people who welcome them into their country as guests.Its a clash of civilisations and no matter how the Politicians try and convince us we can live together,we know that Islam and democracy dont go hand in hand.Enough is enough,time to stand up and be counted.And wipe this Evil out for good.
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theres loads of vido on you tube of this...








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It's kind of a trickier question for Russia than for any other country as many of Russian citizens are muslims. The key difference with Europe is that they are not coming from abroad - they have actually been living in the Asian part of Russia for centuries hence they have right to practice any religion they want.

The problems start when big numbers of them come to cities not willing to accept rules and culture of the local population. It seems it's not only about religion then - medieval culture surely does not help.
edl_avfc
Dec 15 2010, 10:16 PM
nice to see the russians showing up now... im still not going there for the world cup mind
damn! was gonna offer you a couple of free tickets for the final ;)
Edited by Russki, Dec 15 2010, 11:47 PM.
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Earlier today, on the yellow newsbox on skynews, it said 1,000 (1k) have been detained in Moscow to stop Ethnic clashes.

Will try and find a link.
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Russian Defence League?

Russian are not standing for it any more.
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If the powers to be take everything away from people of any country and they realise they have nothing left, the only thing they have is their nationality. I am glad the Russians have told the muzzers in so many words, to sort it out, or they will get sorted.

I am the only one who thinks the way to sort out the worlds problem with islam, is to give them their own country and tell them, they cross the line and we will sort you out once and for all. NS


No other religion has ever caused as much trouble in the history of mankind. NS
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from Osvision, lots of news all in one place: http://news.osvision.com/View?xsl=osvision&alertid=1133&languageiso=en. This one specifically for Russia, and lists articles on these current Demos in Russia.
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the russians are a soft touch when it comes to islam....i know ths as i have a few russian friends and my best pal his married to one in egypt, they invadid afganistan and lost the battle, embarased themselfs!! afgans stilll laugh about to this day....also if you remember the chechnian terrorists that shot hundreds in a theater, (i think some terrorists where woman) and later the same group then took control of a childs school and put them in the main hall and detonated bombs killing hundreds a shotting kids as young as 3tears old?? i still remember watching it on the news felling complete disgust about islam, was around the time i really became to hate islam, and couldnt understand why we continued to alow them to move here.....the russians said action would be swift and justified but nothing came from it as they know its something they dont need, they will never be backed in any action they take! a high percentage of russians hate checnians and would love nothing more that to wipe them of the map but the goverment see it as a lost cause.....maybe if the puplic there take to the streets, as we are, aswell as holland and soon to be other countries, maybe just maybe they will make a stand but i think it will take more than a few hundred russian men woman and childreds blood on there goverments hands for them to take action...i hope they do because fcuk, i wouldnt like to fight them they really are up there with top notch loonblls!!

i see some terrible thing happenng over in russia over the next 10 years but the world will blame the russians as they have in every other confict conserning them!

i find the solution simple ban islam from your contry see how many stay make it iligal to practise it shut the mosques im sure counrtys like uae saudu oman yemen pakistan egypt tunsia and half of fcuking africa will welcome them back to where they sould rightfully be!!

problem solved let them sell there houses busnesses and let them take all there earnings with them to start a new live. it couldnt be fairer, you see how many would leave?? the airliners would be full for a year they wouldnt stay if they couldnt continue there belives in that country! all we would be left with is the real moderates the ones that dont give a sh1t as they know there lifes would be better with out the religion! them that dont, would sell up within a week of it happening

and to anyone pointing out its ethnic clensing or anything along them lines, its not they would be aloud the choice to stay renonce islam or leave anyone caught after that time would be stripped of passports homes money the lot and sent back to a holy land that im sure would have them

all it would take is a govrment with balls by bring back the army, place them on our own soil and finally sort out the 3rd world this country is becoming within 10 years we would be the greatest nation in the world, jobs cheaper housing less cars on the roads (not somany over run prisons) less money spent on defending our country and more prospects for our kids and grandkids

is any country brave enough to do it!! NO

NS
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Dec 16 2010, 03:10 AM
the russians are a soft touch when it comes to islam....i know ths as i have a few russian friends and my best pal his married to one in egypt, they invadid afganistan and lost the battle, embarased themselfs!! afgans stilll laugh about to this day....also if you remember the chechnian terrorists that shot hundreds in a theater, (i think some terrorists where woman)
The Russians aren't a soft touch when it comes to islam,please read this link and you'll find out for yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia

The Soviet Union,as it was known,during the invasion of Afghanistan,faced islamic insurgents,trained and financed by USA,due to the Americans viewing this as a theatre of the cold war.They'd been humbled in Vietnam and wanted some kind of victory against communism...if the Afghans are laughing at anyone about this period then it's probably the Americans because of the backing they gave Bin-Laden & co.
The Soviets lost big numbers during 9 years there.They were sending many conscripts from the former Soviet republics that weren't interested in this occupation.

The Moscow theatre siege ended with gas being pumped into the building,knocking out everyone inside.The Russians then shot the terrorists,many were female, but the gas killed over 100 hostages.The terrorists shot 1 or 2, not hundreds...


@Russki
Thanks for the updates and write up! Glad to see the Russians standing up to the islamic thugs! Are you in Russia now or the UK?
Edited by dudleyanglosaxon, Dec 16 2010, 07:26 AM.
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Its governments that are soft touches not ordinary people, if it was left to the ordinary Joe in the street or in Russia Boris, then there would be no Islamisation of europe it would have been stopped a long time ago, and most governments know this thats why they always come down the hardest on the indigenous people. Well thats what i reckon.
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Dec 15 2010, 11:54 PM
Russian Defence League?

Russian are not standing for it any more.
Now that would be an army.
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Dec 16 2010, 07:23 AM
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the russians are a soft touch when it comes to islam....i know ths as i have a few russian friends and my best pal his married to one in egypt, they invadid afganistan and lost the battle, embarased themselfs!! afgans stilll laugh about to this day....also if you remember the chechnian terrorists that shot hundreds in a theater, (i think some terrorists where woman)
The Russians aren't a soft touch when it comes to islam,please read this link and you'll find out for yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia

The Soviet Union,as it was known,during the invasion of Afghanistan,faced islamic insurgents,trained and financed by USA,due to the Americans viewing this as a theatre of the cold war.They'd been humbled in Vietnam and wanted some kind of victory against communism...if the Afghans are laughing at anyone about this period then it's probably the Americans because of the backing they gave Bin-Laden & co.
The Soviets lost big numbers during 9 years there.They were sending many conscripts from the former Soviet republics that weren't interested in this occupation.

The Moscow theatre siege ended with gas being pumped into the building,knocking out everyone inside.The Russians then shot the terrorists,many were female, but the gas killed over 100 hostages.The terrorists shot 1 or 2, not hundreds...


@Russki
Thanks for the updates and write up! Glad to see the Russians standing up to the islamic thugs! Are you in Russia now or the UK?
The Russians aren't a soft touch when it comes to islam,please read this link and you'll find out for yourself http://anonym.to?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia


dosnt explain anything to me other that islam is spreading on a large scale around russia, yes maybe back once in a life time ago, they did something about it! but not anymore!! im only quoting friends who are russans, and yes sorry you were right about the theater, that as my mistake i only vagely rememeber it as was only young!...but not so wrong about the rest as its been explained to me a 100 times! and seen with my own eyes!! every credit if the rusain people have taken to the strets....im sure will make some kind of difference

but it hasnt even made the news how is that even possible??

if it doid go bent over there woulnt be a nice place to be if you were muslim!!
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Dec 16 2010, 07:23 AM
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Dec 16 2010, 03:10 AM
the russians are a soft touch when it comes to islam....i know ths as i have a few russian friends and my best pal his married to one in egypt, they invadid afganistan and lost the battle, embarased themselfs!! afgans stilll laugh about to this day....also if you remember the chechnian terrorists that shot hundreds in a theater, (i think some terrorists where woman)
The Russians aren't a soft touch when it comes to islam,please read this link and you'll find out for yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia

The Soviet Union,as it was known,during the invasion of Afghanistan,faced islamic insurgents,trained and financed by USA,due to the Americans viewing this as a theatre of the cold war.They'd been humbled in Vietnam and wanted some kind of victory against communism...if the Afghans are laughing at anyone about this period then it's probably the Americans because of the backing they gave Bin-Laden & co.
The Soviets lost big numbers during 9 years there.They were sending many conscripts from the former Soviet republics that weren't interested in this occupation.

The Moscow theatre siege ended with gas being pumped into the building,knocking out everyone inside.The Russians then shot the terrorists,many were female, but the gas killed over 100 hostages.The terrorists shot 1 or 2, not hundreds...


@Russki
Thanks for the updates and write up! Glad to see the Russians standing up to the islamic thugs! Are you in Russia now or the UK?
glad to see someone having more clue than the previous "speaker" . 15,000 of Russian casualties against a million of afghans, 10 years of full control of the territory. Task of not letting US control the territory is complete, the troops are leaving the country. who lost the battle?

I'm here. I'm there. I'm ever ))
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The United States and Pakistan pumped 2 Biollion Dollar into Afghanistan and the Mudjahedin, secret Agents from the States bought Weapons in the old Chzech Republik. Without that "gifts" the mudjahedin would have been obliterated, they had no chance agaisnt the mass of soviet MI-24 HIND Atttack choppers, but the US invented the stinger rocket and shipped it to afghanistan, then the tides turned, even today stinger rockets are used against the troops over there...

After Beslan the russians are very mad at the muslims, a ex coworker of me was from russia, he told me a lot about the situation in russia,they still glorify their troops, stand behind them and don´t forget, russians are good fighters and soldiers.

Btw, here is the Russian Defence League link on Failbook, i´m in contact with them and they keep me informed about the situation over there.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=108277779202337

If the russians awake, then there will be carnage ;)
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Dec 16 2010, 11:42 AM
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Dec 15 2010, 11:54 PM
Russian Defence League?

Russian are not standing for it any more.
Now that would be an army.
Isn't that what every country needs in this fight?

I mean in size.
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Dec 15 2010, 10:14 PM
good to hear russia has had enough mate
every countries had enogh mate, apart from sweedon they love em........well there political elite do :D
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Dec 17 2010, 12:13 PM
The United States and Pakistan pumped 2 Biollion Dollar into Afghanistan and the Mudjahedin, secret Agents from the States bought Weapons in the old Chzech Republik. Without that "gifts" the mudjahedin would have been obliterated, they had no chance agaisnt the mass of soviet MI-24 HIND Atttack choppers, but the US invented the stinger rocket and shipped it to afghanistan, then the tides turned, even today stinger rockets are used against the troops over there...

After Beslan the russians are very mad at the muslims, a ex coworker of me was from russia, he told me a lot about the situation in russia,they still glorify their troops, stand behind them and don´t forget, russians are good fighters and soldiers.

Btw, here is the Russian Defence League link on Failbook, i´m in contact with them and they keep me informed about the situation over there.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=108277779202337

If the russians awake, then there will be carnage ;)
Glad you posted this viewpoint. The cause of the outcome of the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan is widely misunderstood. The mujahideen did not defeat the Soviet army. It was a proxy war, USA vs. USSR. The Soviets simply got tired of paying for the stalemate, not unlike the way the USA got tired of paying for the stalemate in the proxy war they fought in Vietnam.

Without proxy intervention and the irrational constraints of politics there is no doubt that either the Russian or American armed forces could easily eradicate the primitive mujahideen anywhere on the planet. As the British proved in Burma during the Pacific war, they too are capable of the task. But such an outcome is only possible if the generals are given the freedom to do their job as the people they have taken an oath to protect expect of them. It requires a political will and that is why movements such as the EDL are so critical. While EDL may never congeal as a formal party, it is very much a political force which wields a power on a par with the American Tea Party movement that just swept more incumbents out of the halls of Congress than even any formal party had done in the USA in more than 70 years.

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Politicians fear one thing the most: The power of the people, and the EDL stands for the power of the people! History has shown that politcians, whole governments were washed away and punished. Without the People there would have not been a french revolution or democracy
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Politicians fear one thing the most: The power of the people, and the EDL stands for the power of the people! History has shown that politcians, whole governments were washed away and punished. Without the People there would have not been a french revolution or democracy
Like one man said"it's not people who should be scared of their Governments,it's the Governments that should be scared of the people".Greetings GDL.
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Russians have always stuck up for themselves. Their govt isn't scared of hurting the feelings of muslims like ours is.
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