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red cross tell staff take down nativity it might offend
Topic Started: Dec 14 2010, 02:34 PM (588 Views)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-152361/The-Red-Cross-bans-Christmas.html
well red cross its offended me
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that's the red cross off my christmas list,bunch of pc twats
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this is a prime example of exactly what is wrong wrong wrong about this country now
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'The Red Cross is a neutral organisation and we don't want to be aligned with any political party or particular philosophy,' a spokesman said.

i cant see the christmas political party nywhere?

never go in there again...boycott.
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what aload of fcuking bollax
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it may punch you in the face.
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Can't blame Muslims on this one, I personally never met one who objected to Christmas in charity shops. But for the Red Cross is pretty bizarre and shows a total lack of strength in their public relations department. Stocking Christmas cards, or Ramadan cards, or Channukah cards, or Divali cards doesn't mean you have to agree with a philosophy. Their PR team should have advised the Red Cross to stock cards from ALL faiths, that way it's all inclusive and nobody can reasonably be offended. Would get POSITIVE publicity not NEGATIVE publicity, and bottom line it would probably increase sales. This way it's just made me, and it seems a lot of other people, not want to visit a Red Cross shop.

Stupidity knows no bounds...
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OMG!!! i cant believe i just read that! damn, i get so bloody angry!
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and the red cross are teaching terry taliban first aid.
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Another step down the road has been taken....
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WTF it's a red "cross" for a reason, and I'm not a Christian.
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Sad to see this happening over and over again and we are supposed to just sit back and take it! They say they are doing it not to offend muslims, but what about us? What about the majority of the citizens of this country? Can they not see by doing this they are offending us big time! This doesn't do any good, all it does is instill hatred into people, the complete opposite of what these clowns think they are doing!
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but yet they still hold the red cross as a symbol???? what a load of bollox this is.islam and some moslems find the red cross more offencive than the nativity.its not the moslems what are doing this you know.its the extream athiest and the loony lefties....



they should have a ST.George flag at the side of the nativity....they go hand in hand..if people get offended tough sh1te...peole who work there get offended,except it or get a new job...stop all this madness.it makes me feel poorly/ill.

keep the faith

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Who are these 'officials'. Need fcuking naming and shaming!
Idiots.
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Who are these 'officials'. Need fcuking naming and shaming!
Idiots.
they are probably harry potter fans along with narnia...they live in a fcukin dream world...


keep the faith

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I used to donate to the red cross,no skin off my nose i just wont donate anymore to them,and im sure plenty of others will do the same and hopefully they will fcuk off somewhere else looking for donations
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The teachings from Islam are that you should respect other faiths.

hmmm... thats not what ive heard :ermm:
Edited by Dangerous Dave, Dec 14 2010, 03:07 PM.
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theres some shops in brum .i think that are aligned to red crescent.the muslim charity.next time there is a muslim festival i shall go and see if they have got anything going on concerning it .and if so i shall complain to the stupid red cross
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No-one should be giving any money to the "Red Cross".

It is a deeply hypocritical organisation. When they distribute aid to muslim countries, the aid is in containers marked with a red crescent. So muslims think the aid comes from other muslims (because they won't take aid from christians - rememeber "do not take the jews and christians as your friends").

The Red Cross is not even known as that. It is called "The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent" societies. If you download their annual accounts for the past few years you will see that despite 30% of the world being muslim, only 1% of the donations to the Red Cross/Red Crescent comes from muslim countries. Even non-christian/non-muslim countries donate more money than the muslims. Usually Singapore gives as much as all the oil states combined.

When the Red Cross charity collectors are in a muslim part of Britain they show a Red Crescent sign. If a non-muslim opens their front door, the collector quickly swivels the sign round.

I say: give your charitable donations to an organisation that is is not fundamentally hypocritical and deceitful.
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Who are these 'officials'. Need fcuking naming and shaming!
Idiots.


Make your feelings known, but remember be civilised about it!

British Red Cross - Contact details

Link to BRC Media centre:
http://www.redcross.org.uk/About-us/Media-centre

Press office hours: 09:00 - 18:00 Monday - Friday
Out of office hours (emergency only): +44 (0)7659 145095
Email: press@redcross.org.uk

Press office
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Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7039
Email: BWebb@redcross.org.uk

Penny Sims
Senior media relations officer
Forward planning
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7044
Email: PSims@redcross.org.uk

Henry Makiwa
Media relations officer
Features desk
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7479
Email: HMakiwa@redcross.org.uk

Laura Hinks
Media relations officer
Features desk
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7524
Email: LHinks@redcross.org.uk

Mark South
Media relations officer
News desk
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7042
Email: MSouth@redcross.org.uk

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Heron Holloway
Fundraising communications manager
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7520
Email: HHolloway@redcross.org.uk
Public affairs and public relations
Head of department
Adrian Thomas
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7046
Email: AThomas@redcross.org.uk

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Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7047
Email: DPiner@redcross.org.uk

Administrator
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Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7049
Email: NGattan@redcross.org.uk

Public affairs advisor
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Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7051
Email: DRubio@redcross.org.uk

National media
Newsdesk: +44 (0)20 7877 7042 / 7039
Features desk: +44 (0)20 7877 7039/ 7524/ 7479
Forward planning and special projects: +44 (0)20 7877 7044 / 7045
Public relations and high-profile supporters: +44 (0)20 7877 7047
Public affairs: +44 (0)20 7877 7051
Advocacy +44 (0)20 7877 7046

Regional media
South East of England: +44 (0)20 7877 7464/ 7463
Wales and the West of England: +44 (0)117 301 2624
North of England: +44 (0)1565 650 201
Scotland: +44 (0)141 891 4000
Northern Ireland and the Isle of Man: +44 (0)28 9024 6400

Politicians and researchers can email us at publicaffairs@redcross.org.uk

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Dec 14 2010, 03:10 PM
No-one should be giving any money to the "Red Cross".

It is a deeply hypocritical organisation. When they distribute aid to muslim countries, the aid is in containers marked with a red crescent. So muslims think the aid comes from other muslims (because they won't take aid from christians - rememeber "do not take the jews and christians as your friends").

The Red Cross is not even known as that. It is called "The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent" societies. If you download their annual accounts for the past few years you will see that despite 30% of the world being muslim, only 1% of the donations to the Red Cross/Red Crescent comes from muslim countries. Even non-christian/non-muslim countries donate more money than the muslims. Usually Singapore gives as much as all the oil states combined.

When the Red Cross charity collectors are in a muslim part of Britain they show a Red Crescent sign. If a non-muslim opens their front door, the collector quickly swivels the sign round.

I say: give your charitable donations to an organisation that is is not fundamentally hypocritical and deceitful.
That is the last penny they get out of me or my family how much more tripe do we have to put up with.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE
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Dec 14 2010, 03:10 PM
No-one should be giving any money to the "Red Cross".

It is a deeply hypocritical organisation. When they distribute aid to muslim countries, the aid is in containers marked with a red crescent. So muslims think the aid comes from other muslims (because they won't take aid from christians - rememeber "do not take the jews and christians as your friends").

The Red Cross is not even known as that. It is called "The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent" societies. If you download their annual accounts for the past few years you will see that despite 30% of the world being muslim, only 1% of the donations to the Red Cross/Red Crescent comes from muslim countries. Even non-christian/non-muslim countries donate more money than the muslims. Usually Singapore gives as much as all the oil states combined.

When the Red Cross charity collectors are in a muslim part of Britain they show a Red Crescent sign. If a non-muslim opens their front door, the collector quickly swivels the sign round.

I say: give your charitable donations to an organisation that is is not fundamentally hypocritical and deceitful.
That is the last penny they get out of me or my family how much more tripe do we have to put up with.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE

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I choose very carefully where any charitable money i donate goes and have in the past bought items from the Red Cross.
This will never happen again!!!
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Fcuking UNBELIEVABLE!!
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My E mail......

Just a quick mail to let all you 'officials' at The Red Cross know that i shall shortly be organising a fundraising event in which i hope to raise enough money to pay for a surgeon to reconstruct you all with a BACK BONE!

Your stance on Christmas i find to be totally pathetic, which is also my impression of you so called 'officials'.



Happy Chritmas to all.


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Red Cross gives first-aid training to Taliban fighters
Taliban insurgents fighting against British and American forces in Afghanistan have been given first-aid training and supplied with medical kits by the Red Cross.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7765606/Red-Cross-gives-first-aid-training-to-Taliban-fighters.html
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they shld certinaly be forced to remove the word 'british' from their name if this is their approach
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Red cross? Sounds like

RED TOSS more to me!


Happy Christmas


PS they've been at it for years.
Blistering Barnacles!
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Apparently "Multicultural" = No culture

The fcuk is wrong with people today.
It's the red - fcuking- cross. IT IS CHRISTIAN. Much like the red crescent IS ISLAMIC.
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Homo sapian was right. I will boycott the red cross from now on.
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Dec 14 2010, 03:13 PM
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Who are these 'officials'. Need fcuking naming and shaming!
Idiots.


Make your feelings known, but remember be civilised about it!

British Red Cross - Contact details

Link to BRC Media centre:
http://www.redcross.org.uk/About-us/Media-centre

Press office hours: 09:00 - 18:00 Monday - Friday
Out of office hours (emergency only): +44 (0)7659 145095
Email: press@redcross.org.uk

Press office
Becky Webb
Senior media relations officer
Features desk
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7039
Email: BWebb@redcross.org.uk

Penny Sims
Senior media relations officer
Forward planning
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7044
Email: PSims@redcross.org.uk

Henry Makiwa
Media relations officer
Features desk
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7479
Email: HMakiwa@redcross.org.uk

Laura Hinks
Media relations officer
Features desk
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7524
Email: LHinks@redcross.org.uk

Mark South
Media relations officer
News desk
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7042
Email: MSouth@redcross.org.uk

Forward planning and special projects
Heron Holloway
Fundraising communications manager
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7520
Email: HHolloway@redcross.org.uk
Public affairs and public relations
Head of department
Adrian Thomas
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7046
Email: AThomas@redcross.org.uk

Public relations manager
David Piner
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7047
Email: DPiner@redcross.org.uk

Administrator
Nadia Gattan
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7049
Email: NGattan@redcross.org.uk

Public affairs advisor
Daniel Rubio
Tel: +44 (0)20 7877 7051
Email: DRubio@redcross.org.uk

National media
Newsdesk: +44 (0)20 7877 7042 / 7039
Features desk: +44 (0)20 7877 7039/ 7524/ 7479
Forward planning and special projects: +44 (0)20 7877 7044 / 7045
Public relations and high-profile supporters: +44 (0)20 7877 7047
Public affairs: +44 (0)20 7877 7051
Advocacy +44 (0)20 7877 7046

Regional media
South East of England: +44 (0)20 7877 7464/ 7463
Wales and the West of England: +44 (0)117 301 2624
North of England: +44 (0)1565 650 201
Scotland: +44 (0)141 891 4000
Northern Ireland and the Isle of Man: +44 (0)28 9024 6400

Politicians and researchers can email us at publicaffairs@redcross.org.uk

Thanks for that list of E-Mail addresses actanonverba, I have just sent this to all names on the list:


Dear Red Cross,

I regularly support 3 charities in this country, they are: British Heart Foundation, Royal National Lifeboat Institute and the Red Cross. However, I have just read the Daily Mail article entitled: The Red Cross bans Christmas.

Now I could spend a lot of time trying to explain my feelings about your disgraceful 'politically correct' decision, but with your mean minded attitude, feel that I would be wasting your time. So I will be withdrawing my support for your charity forthwith.

Merry Christmas.


ironshanks
Dec 14 2010, 04:30 PM
Homo sapian was right. I will boycott the red cross from now on.
Homo sapien and you are right, but I urge you to drop them an E-Mail and let them know they have lost your support.
Edited by dozyuk, Dec 14 2010, 05:03 PM.

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Please post if you receive any responses to the 'Red Cross Christmas Ban' protest e-mails. Interesting to see what they say?
Edited by BaconBreakfast, Dec 14 2010, 05:08 PM.
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Dec 14 2010, 05:07 PM
Please post if you receive any responses to the 'Red Cross Christmas Ban' protest e-mails. Interesting to see what they say?
First one back:

I will be back in the office on Thursday the 30th of December 2010. If you have any urgent media inquiries please contact press@redcross.org.uk, for out of hour please contact 07659 145095.

Thanks,
Nadia


She must be on her Christmas holidays, sorry - couldn't resist

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Dec 14 2010, 04:59 PM
Homo sapian was right. I will boycott the red cross from now on.
Homo sapien and you are right, but I urge you to drop them an E-Mail and let them know they have lost your support.[/quote]I have far grander plans than that. The temp who will respond to your email will not know (and will probably not care) about the argument I outlined above.

We should be having an EDL demo outside the Red Cross head office in Britain with leaflets and an information pack. We should shame them into admitting their practise.

When I've confronted Red Cross employees about this before they did not know and did not care.
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Please post if you receive any responses to the 'Red Cross Christmas Ban' protest e-mails. Interesting to see what they say?
Just in,


Thank you very much for your email, which I just read with great concern, and thank you for your support of the British Red Cross - as I'm sure you are aware we rely on donations from people such as yourself to be able to carry out our work in the UK and around the world.

I am happy to be able to reassure you that the Red Cross has not, nor has it ever, "banned Christmas".

The Daily Mail article you have read, while unfortunately and misleadingly continuing to run online today, is in fact eight years old.

It is not the case that our retail shops have been instructed not to celebrate Christmas. Indeed, many of our shops are decorated in the festive spirit and we also sell Christmas cards.

However, it is the case that the Red Cross is not a political or religious organisation.

This neutrality means that we can reach and help people in need whoever and wherever they are, unconditionally. Often we provide help in countries that other organisations cannot or will not work in. We cross front lines in times of war to help conflict victims and visit prisoners of war on both sides. We can only do this life-saving work because we are understood to be a completely neutral, independent organisation. Put simply, our neutrality saves lives.

We can't let people in need down by compromising our neutrality. That is why we do not align ourselves with any particular political cause or religious creed anywhere in the world. And that is why we do not have any items of a religious nature in our shops.

As you can see, this is nothing whatsoever to do with “offending non-Christians”, it is to uphold our vital neutrality.

We respect the fact that for many people in Britain, Christmas is a holy time. Equally we recognise that for many others, Christmas is a time for remembering those without the support of family, the joy of friendships or the help of strangers.

I hope this explanation allays your concerns and that you will be able to continue to support us in our vital work to help vulnerable people in crisis in the UK and across the world.

I wish you a Happy Christmas and best wishes for 2011.



Well, that answers that, non religious neutrality.

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Red Cross gives first-aid training to Taliban fighters
Taliban insurgents fighting against British and American forces in Afghanistan have been given first-aid training and supplied with medical kits by the Red Cross.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7765606/Red-Cross-gives-first-aid-training-to-Taliban-fighters.html
they are helping terry taliban learn first aid and giving them first aid kits, so more survive, and as a consequence can go back to planting IED and fighting our boys. who cares about a nativity when they could be indirectly responsible for the death of our servicemen.
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I first heard about this three or four years ago when the red cross said that they were banning christmas goods for fear of offending the ragheads, sorry, muslims!!
either way it is enough for me to know that they align themselves with red crescent who, by the way, will only give aid to muslims and actually ask who is and who isn't !
tonight I will write to my local red cross shop telling them of what I think of their stance of being neutral and I certainly will send an email.
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E-mail sent.
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Dec 14 2010, 09:14 PM
E-mail sent.
Thank you for your email.

The British Red Cross is, and has always been, a secular organisation that is removed from both politics and religion. It is this separation that allows the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement to help people in desperate need every day of the year. In war zones we are entrusted with a unique role - visiting prisoners of war and crossing front lines to tend to the wounded, whichever side they are on. To do this safely and effectively, it is vital that people know we are not, and never have been, a religious or political organisation.

We have never asked our volunteers not to use 'Christmas' in their window displays. On the contrary, we actively encourage them to decorate our shops for Christmas. All we ask is that they do not display overtly religious items, as we must retain neutrality.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain our position.

Many thanks,

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Well our local Red Cross Branch has a few balloons and some tinsel decorations that's it.
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what a load of bollox, wtf is this red crescent? secular my arse! would you mind if I used your email as a reference in the email id like to send them paul?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8127754.stm
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Calais-Immigrant-Jungle-To-Be-Destroyed-Immigrant-Camp-To-Be-Clear-Frances-Eric-Besson-Says/Article/200909315383222

Why do the filthy red cross scum support overcrowding of our country. its time for charity to begin at home. No foreign aid. just time to take care of our own people!!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=125191959561&v=info << a facebook group who support them scum who wants to live in our country.

When will our troops be home from foreign lands to take out the illegal immigrants in our country!!! Its also time for france to take out the illegals in Calais. its time for the french troops to guard the areas which are full of immigrants wanting to go to our country.

I would never ever donate a penny to the red cross. Time to take care of our own people!!!
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I know there are other issues raised about this in posts, but I went past one of their shops today and the window was full of Christmas stuff. Also, cards advertised in the window with Jesus on them.
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Dec 23 2010, 09:31 PM
Isn't it discrimination to stop Christians from celebrating an important part of their religion?
How is the Red Cross stopping christians from celebrating an important part of their religion?
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We-Are-The-British
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Isn't it discrimination to stop Christians from celebrating an important part of their religion?
How is the Red Cross stopping christians from celebrating an important part of their religion?
You're right. Please disregard my other post.
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Dec 14 2010, 02:39 PM
this is a prime example of exactly what is wrong wrong wrong about this country now
Exactly
Outlaw sharia law
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