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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 10 2010, 10:07 AM (314 Views) | |
| EDL ELITE | Dec 10 2010, 10:07 AM Post #1 |
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Am I the only one who thinks that the people who spout this phrase when you see ninjas speaking their native tongue in our country are complete traitorous idiots? What goes through these crazy people's heads?! Have they no National Pride? Oh wait, no, they don't. 1. What is the point of them coming to ENGLAND if they are just going to go on like they were still living in Pakistan/Bangladesh, etc.? Not even having the common DECENCY to learn our language? Oh right, the crazy amount of benefits they get for doing nothing but popping out the mandatory 8 kids.. 2. They could be talking about terrorist activity just as easy as saying that they enjoyed the curry they ate last night, the fact is we simply DON'T KNOW, and having it non mandatory to speak English in England in a time when TERRORIST ATTACKS ARE HAPPENING is mindbogglingly idiotic and dangerous. 3. The word I used before: "DECENCY". Every other culture follows the "When in Rome" idea, adapting to the culture they live in out of respect and GOOD FAITH. Something these "people" have not a care in the world for. Not learning our language is the ultimate disrespect in my opinion. They could still be living in the fcuking desert, but no no, we let them into our paradise to give them the opportunity to a much superior life. Any chance of a thank you? Oops, you don't even speak our language do you? Yeah, really appreciative. Really sums up these characters, doesn't it? I know I'm not alone in thinking this. After all, I'm not the only sane person left, am I? |
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| snidey | Dec 10 2010, 10:36 AM Post #2 |
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Also when they have to go into hospital, fill out form or go for face to face interviews for benefits they ARE entitled to an interpreter at a cost of over £100 Per HOUR which comes out of the taxpayers pocket Mind boggling the amount of money we pay for people who are hell bent on attacking us |
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| Bleeding_Through | Dec 10 2010, 10:47 AM Post #3 |
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If I went to another country. I would try and learn the language. But the problem in this country is there are places were there is no need for them to learn our language. The operate entirely in their own bubble, and don't interact with english speaking people so there isn't much need for them to learn english. What is scary perhaps somewhat doomongering on my part but those of you that know your history will know what happened in the Sudetenland. Could there be a possibility of parts of the U.K annexing themselves into miniture islamic territories? I would like to say our system would not allow it. But after I learnt that Sharia laws were operating in this country I will believe anything. When I first heard that, I spent about 15 mins arguing it couldn't be a possibility. Conversation went as follows mate: "did you know there are sharia laws operating in the u.k?" me: I don't think so lad, its impossible they wouldn't allow it. mate: No its true, there are X amount already in operation me: I think your mistaken lad. They were planning it but it never got of the ground mate: Nope that was X years ago, and now there are X many running. me: No way. No way mate: If you dont believe me go online and research it me: Ok lad but im sure you are wrong. I dont see how they would allow it. mate: I know mate, its pretty shocking tbh me: No way. No way can I believe that. They wouldnt allow a parallel legal system, its illogical for a start. Even if they were looking to appease muslims, they wouldnt budge on this particular issue. It undermimes our legal system. No way in hell. Guess I was wrong on that one. So maybe I wouldnt be too far off on the sudentenland comparison. Bradistan anyone? |
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| wodin | Dec 10 2010, 10:54 AM Post #4 |
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Good post mate!
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| Deleted User | Dec 10 2010, 11:07 AM Post #5 |
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And that £100 an hour will go to members of 'the community' and a good proportion will no doubt find its way back to funding jihad. If Cameron wants to make spending cuts this is a good place to start. The only thing that needs to be translated into the numerous community languages is a single sentence: Learn English or bugger off! |
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| dudleyanglosaxon | Dec 10 2010, 11:16 AM Post #6 |
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@ Bamiyan,too true the money goes into "their community",same as when they get legal aid for court... |
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| SavageWolf | Dec 10 2010, 11:17 AM Post #7 |
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It should be as simple as when any immigrant enters the uk to live they are given 2 months to learn English after Thos 2 months they should go for a test. If they can speak enough English they will have a further 4 Month to lean fluent English if they can't they should face deportation Edited by SavageWolf, Dec 10 2010, 11:18 AM.
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| Palace63 | Dec 10 2010, 11:23 AM Post #8 |
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you guys really have hit the nail on the head. still whose fault is it? if everything is laid on a plate, whats the incentive to learn the lingo? you can get all the free education, healthcare, state benefits you want anyway...better still, learn before they get here Edited by Palace63, Dec 10 2010, 11:29 AM.
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| Deleted User | Dec 10 2010, 11:38 AM Post #9 |
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I had a long discussion with some friends from Minnesota a few weeks back. In there state they are just about to bring in laws that mean English is no longer the state language. After about two days of facebook discussion everyone was in agreement with me. If you want to divide a community then allow them to use what ever language they want. It stops integration, full stop. Its totally counter productive and leads to a two tier system, almost apartheid. Disagree, look at Bradford. Look at the forms when you go in to your GP/Hospital. Look and see how many 2nd, 3rd and even 4th generations cant speak the "native tong". I firmly believe that if the only official language in the UK was English and no translation were done we would be in a better situation. Call me xenophobic but the facts speak for themselves. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 10 2010, 11:38 AM Post #10 |
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Yep all translator services should be withdrawn immediately for those living and working here in the U.K. I am sure they would be able to find a friend if necessary. All literature produced by councils should be in English only as well saving ££££. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 10 2010, 11:51 AM Post #11 |
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I don't care what language they speak at home, but they should have to be fluent in English in order to converse with other members of the public, fill in tax forms etc. |
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| Bleeding_Through | Dec 10 2010, 11:53 AM Post #12 |
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The thing is it is not defined to one particular race or culture. Americans having the same problem with Mexicans. Language is a major barrier to integration. As the old addage says "its not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." Its like if you want to come here, then pay your own way. You take free money, dont learn our language, use our free healthcare, and then call us infidels. At least when it rains here our houses aren't floating down the road. Despite what govt past and present says, large numbers of unskilled labour from EU or otherwise, and large numbers of asylum seekers, have no benefit whatsoever to this country. Perhaps if we had some more Indian biosurgeons, or some Polish genetic researchers, we would be better off. I dont mind immigration at all. But I feel we need to attract the right people here, and it should be us that dictates who comes in and who doesent. Look what has happened as a result of an open door policy? This could also be seen as me attacking the working class in general, if we were to get onto class I don't actually believe in it. I believe any man or woman is not born in to something, and each and every one of us can aspire to better things. The very definition of "class" suggests that people who earn less money are somehow lower down in the peking order, which is false and unreasonable. but what Iam getting at is, if we have hordes of peasant people coming in, then what do we expect is going to happen. They are going to transform the u.k into a sh1thole no? |
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| dudleyanglosaxon | Dec 10 2010, 11:56 AM Post #13 |
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Totally agree with that...maybe tax forms a bad example though for them...more like benefits forms! |
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| Sussex 66 | Dec 10 2010, 12:55 PM Post #14 |
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At least they won't be able to read what we're saying about them.
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| "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England." - Sir Winston Churchill | |
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| derville | Dec 10 2010, 01:23 PM Post #15 |
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1) Rome did not promote multiculturalism. Recently there was an article in the Daily Mail explaining that less than 50% of English pupils in London had English has a mother tongue. When Rome eventually failed to assimilate the numerous barbarian 'allies', it ceased to exist as a culture... Is history repeating itself? 2) I don't want to be rude but British expats are known not to integrate (don't learn the host language, open English-speaking libraries/shops, live among themselves etc.) |
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| Deleted User | Dec 10 2010, 02:04 PM Post #16 |
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"People have the right to speak whatever language they want!" If you're a visiting tourist or working during a short stay etc. I'd not be too concerned but if you're here to stay (or so you think!) then speekee eengleesh please. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 10 2010, 03:32 PM Post #17 |
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I'm going to Saudi Arabia and i'm only going to speak English, do you think i'd come back? probably not! |
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| thepagan | Dec 11 2010, 01:23 PM Post #18 |
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It's common for a wife to bring her husband as interpreter and vice versa then charge the NHS for interpreting per hour ,travel and hotel accomodation ,what a fukin piss take when they have probably never put a penny into the system I know someone that has seen the invoices and had to deal with this scum usually the not at all special ones |
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| lionsingh | Dec 11 2010, 01:38 PM Post #19 |
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"People have the right to speak whatever language they want!" I agree with that completely... but those that are living here should be forced to learn English. If they want benefits then they should be able to use the language...otherwise how can they get a job !!!! I speak 4 languages and another 3 I can get by with. Some muslim families lock their women folk in the house...and allow them out in only muslim areas for shopping. They get back home and watch Arabic TV sat channels....so never learn anything.... force each and every claiment to prove a grasp of English. As to using other languages on the street...let people talk what they want. A problem (well a positive one) I have in germany is when I speak german...they hear my accent and start talking in English ...gets surreal as I am speaking german and the german is answering in English...I often give up and use English. learn the language of the country you are in. Simple. |
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| hornet | Dec 11 2010, 02:01 PM Post #20 |
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not just hospitals schools police benifet office imagration office properly loads more £££££££££££ |
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