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so who are the EDL
Topic Started: Dec 10 2010, 07:30 AM (642 Views)
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howdy my names daniel i'm 23 i live near Peterborough and honestly i have heard nothing but "the edl are coming to peterborough on the 11th there's gonna be a riot" i have a muslim mate that will be on the counter march and a white mate that is going to your march so in my pursuit for a bit of knowledge i want to ask what are the EDL all about look forward to some responses polite one's will only be replied to cheers
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hello,feel free to browse the forums,where you will learn all about the edl.
who are radical islam....?
dont you think that would be more appropriate.?
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hello thanks for the quick reply i understand what radical islam is i was just wanting to know what the EDL's policy's are like do you stand against all asian faiths or is it just radical islam what are some of your groups goals and objectives also is there an irish division of the EDL i'm gonna guess it would be called the IDL that sort of stuff really also what are you views on racism i no you get a lot of trolls on here as i have seen in other posts on the forums but i genuinely want to know about your group cheers
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Dec 10 2010, 07:48 AM
hello thanks for the quick reply i understand what radical islam is i was just wanting to know what the EDL's policy's are like do you stand against all asian faiths or is it just radical islam what are some of your groups goals and objectives also is there an irish division of the EDL i'm gonna guess it would be called the IDL that sort of stuff really also what are you views on racism i no you get a lot of trolls on here as i have seen in other posts on the forums but i genuinely want to know about your group cheers
The EDL just stand against radical Islam, we have no problem at all with other faiths nor do we give a damn about the colour of anyone's skin or sexuality and encourage them to join us in dealing with the biggest menace to world civilisation since the Nazi party. Hence we have Sikh, Hindu, Buddhist, atheist, you name it members.

We normally spot the trolls fairly quickly too, but it does get a bit wearing for some having to answer the same questions time and time again, hence the "hostile" and to the point replies.
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this question has been asked a 1000 times. search it at the top of the page. If your against radical islam il see you saturday in peterbrough. There wont be a riot either. Its obvioues your mate isnt english if he against us. Our intention's have and always will be to have a peaceful protest. Cant remember there ever being a riot were not student's you no know
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JW, let me just pit you strait wi the whole Muslim v whites concept you seem to hae adopted to your post. There is no Muslim and White divide as many asains/black people on this forum but follow Islam and alot of White people follow Islam.... The divide exists between Muslim radicals and the rest of the UK...

Respect for coming on here to learn about the EDL before wattling about us. Welcome! :)
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Hi Daniel,

Welcome to the EDL forum. ;)

We are all about opposing 'radical' or 'extreme' Islam which is an ideology that has gained a foothold in Peterborough.

This ideology dictates how women think, feel and look. It hates gay people so much that it wants to kill them. It hates Christians, Jews and non-believers so much that it wants to convert or kill them too.

Troops from the local barracks in Peterborough have been abused and attacked by exponents of this wicked and evil death cult because of their links to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and all of them have been ordered not to wear their uniform in the town, for their own safety.

"For their own safety" one more time just so it sinks in FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY that is our own service men and women who are unable to wear their uniform out on the street because it is likely that they will be attacked. That's pretty fcuking disgraceful don't you think?

This means that the very enemy that our lads and lasses are out there fighting against are walking UNCHALLENGED among us. Well they aren't unchallenged any more because the EDL are here and we will oppose them with every fcuking fibre of our being! Wherever they raise their ugly, inbred, paedophilic heads, we will be there to oppose and expose them.

Islam has designs on this country of ours Daniel and if you want to see the plans then take a look around the globe at everywhere that it has been allowed to fester. Look at how it has 'enriched' the lives of so many peaceful people and you will see what the future has in store for us if we allow this cancer to spread here too.

'Religion of Peace' my arse!

Oh and Daniel, I have some bad news for you. Your muslim "friend" well he probably isn't your friend, in fact unless you are a muslim too, he is forbidden to make friends with you. But he is allowed to smile and lie to your face. ;)
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Dec 10 2010, 07:30 AM
howdy my names daniel i'm 23 i live near Peterborough and honestly i have heard nothing but "the edl are coming to peterborough on the 11th there's gonna be a riot" i have a muslim mate that will be on the counter march and a white mate that is going to your march so in my pursuit for a bit of knowledge i want to ask what are the EDL all about look forward to some responses polite one's will only be replied to cheers
ask your mate
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Very good reminder about troops being abused in Peterborough...I remember reading/hearing about this but can't remember exactly when...2 or 3 years ago?
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We are all sorts Daniel, young and old, left and right. There is a mix of faiths (fairly left in economic policy and Atheist myself) and racial backgrounds here. Welcome and browse to get the info you require.
Outlaw sharia law
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Dec 10 2010, 09:34 AM
Hi Daniel,

Welcome to the EDL forum. ;)

We are all about opposing 'radical' or 'extreme' Islam which is an ideology that has gained a foothold in Peterborough.

This ideology dictates how women think, feel and look. It hates gay people so much that it wants to kill them. It hates Christians, Jews and non-believers so much that it wants to convert or kill them too.

Troops from the local barracks in Peterborough have been abused and attacked by exponents of this wicked and evil death cult because of their links to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and all of them have been ordered not to wear their uniform in the town, for their own safety.

"For their own safety" one more time just so it sinks in FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY that is our own service men and women who are unable to wear their uniform out on the street because it is likely that they will be attacked. That's pretty fcuking disgraceful don't you think?

This means that the very enemy that our lads and lasses are out there fighting against are walking UNCHALLENGED among us. Well they aren't unchallenged any more because the EDL are here and we will oppose them with every fcuking fibre of our being! Wherever they raise their ugly, inbred, paedophilic heads, we will be there to oppose and expose them.

Islam has designs on this country of ours Daniel and if you want to see the plans then take a look around the globe at everywhere that it has been allowed to fester. Look at how it has 'enriched' the lives of so many peaceful people and you will see what the future has in store for us if we allow this cancer to spread here too.

'Religion of Peace' my arse!

Oh and Daniel, I have some bad news for you. Your muslim "friend" well he probably isn't your friend, in fact unless you are a muslim too, he is forbidden to make friends with you. But he is allowed to smile and lie to your face. ;)
Well said Scott!
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Dec 10 2010, 10:33 AM
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Very good reminder about troops being abused in Peterborough...I remember reading/hearing about this but can't remember exactly when...2 or 3 years ago?
Just one "carefully worded" article for you.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/37285/RAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-public
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Dec 10 2010, 07:30 AM
howdy my names daniel i'm 23 i live near Peterborough and honestly i have heard nothing but "the edl are coming to peterborough on the 11th there's gonna be a riot" i have a muslim mate that will be on the counter march and a white mate that is going to your march so in my pursuit for a bit of knowledge i want to ask what are the EDL all about look forward to some responses polite one's will only be replied to cheers
Welcome fella.

Just two questions for you.

Why is your Muslim mate - your words - going on the counter march?

Why is your White mate - your words - going on the EDL march?

Its nothing to do with being White.

Maybe ask their reasons why they are going, then compare it to what you read on here.
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Thanks for Daily Express link,it's dated today's date? This was news some time ago too...
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ATTACK: Personnel have suffered repeated verbal abuse

Friday March 7,2008

RAF personnel have been ordered not to wear their uniforms in public, for fear of being abused by hate mobs.
In a move described by one politician as signalling a "sad day". Air Force top brass issued the directive following a "number of incidents" near one of its bases.

Station commander Group Captain Ro Atherton told serving troops to keep a low profile after taking advice from Military Police at RAF Wittering, near Peterborough.

Personnel had been suffering repeated verbal abuse when out in the city and the RAF were keen to prevent problems escalating. Much of the abuse centred on the force’s operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But the move, which comes after a Birmingham man was jailed for planning to kidnap and behead a British Army soldier, was described as a “sad day for the city” by Peterborough’s mayor, Marion Todd, whose great-nephew, James Goldthorpe, is currently serving in Afghanistan with the Army. She added: “I honestly think it’s despicable. It’s a sad day for the city and for the country when the RAF can’t wear their uniforms.”

A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence said military bases were given advice by the Government. “Intelligence is gathered and then provided to the single service, the Army, the Navy or the RAF. It is then up to the commander on the ground to make a decision on whether uniforms should be worn.”

RAF Wittering, near Stamford, has imposed the uniform ban in the city after incidents stretching back over about seven months.

Base spokesman Squadron Leader Tony Walsh said a number of personnel who lived in the city and its outskirts had suffered abuse when openly wearing their uniforms.

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Sqn Leader Walsh said: “We have tried to encourage it more since the ending of the terrorist campaign, and want the local population to see us in our uniforms, as many people don’t know what they look like.”

The verbal attacks had come from a “cross-section” of the community, he said, and were believed to be linked to the RAF’s current operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He stressed that the decision to prohibit uniforms in the city was a local one made by station commander Group Captain Atherton after she took advice from RAF police. Last night Defence Secretary Des Browne said: “We must defend our Forces’ right to wear their uniforms in public. It is a great shame that some individuals in this community don’t respect our Forces – who are daily doing a great deal for this nation.

“This is not a situation we should tolerate. We learned about this today and are investigating it as a matter of urgency.”

Shadow defence secretary Liam Fox said: “Of course the commander on the ground must make the final decision on these matters, but I regret that the circumstances exist where a decision like this had to be made.

“I think that the majority of our public would be appalled to hear that there are no-go areas for our Armed Forces, even in their own country.”


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Thanks for Daily Express link,it's dated today's date? This was news some time ago too...

It's dated, March 10 2008, see above article from Shelfy's link. ;)
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thanks for the mostly warm welcome i am going to struggle to aswer all the questions asked but i will try

i am white catholic officially but far from a practicing catholic basicly i believe in something after life i just have not got a clue what it is and i don't think anyone will know until their time is up i also don't think any religions have got it right

my muslim freind is going to the counter march he says to stand up to fascism i don't honestly beleive that i think it has a lot to do with peer pressure from other muslim youths around our area who are not very nice people and i don't really think anyone can tell me he's not my freind as they do not know him and i find it quite rude that you have already prejudged him

and my white freind is going to the march because of his personal beliefs that muslims are an evil race sucking the life out of Britain also he, i also think his views have been slightly tinted by peer pressure but i can see his point about some of the issues such as sharia law excuse my french but that is bollocks

i know there has been a lot of tension in p'borough racially speaking and i personaly am disgusted with the troops not being able to wear their uniforms in public also i read on this forum about a young man getting stabbed and beaten with a hammer and how the media did not report enough on it i agree until this morning i had never heard of the murder and i live 20 mins away from p'borough that is wrong

the way i see it is that there are a small minority of muslims giving the overall population a bad name and the muslim community does not help itself by not intergrating with the rest of the country but i do know there are calls from muslim's in luton to shun exetremists from their community publicly which is a very good idea i think.
sorry if i missed anyones questions i will try to answer as much as possible





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... i personaly am disgusted with the troops not being able to wear their uniforms in public also i read on this forum about a young man getting stabbed and beaten with a hammer and how the media did not report enough on it i agree until this morning i had never heard of the murder and i live 20 mins away from p'borough that is wrong ....





But what do you intend to do about it? Come on here and whinge to us about highlighting it perhaps?
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If your Muslim friend is going to march against fascism then he needs to be marching with us not against us. Look up the definition of fascism and compare it to what we believe politically and to what Islam believes politically and then decide who the real fascists are.

And for the record, despite all of us from the EDL coming from a wide political spectrum from left to right, none of us are 'far-right' , fascists or nazis. We all agree on democracy, the rule of law (but not Shariah obviously), and the inalienable rights of man as listed in the Magna Carta.
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@ peterpendant who is whinging? i am trying to get my opinion across is there a problem with that ?
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Everyone needs to calm down a bit. 'Just wondering' sorry if people are bitting your head off a bit. Your opinions are in agreement with everyone elses. What you are getting now is everyones responses to your muslim friend. If you want to come along saturday you are more than welcome.

All the best with what you decide.
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Get yourself down there mate and see for yourself!
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@ignominius i believe that the edl are not a fascist group and i agree with most of the things i have read on the forum but you do have quite a negative image in the media although from what i have read it is mostly unjust
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Dec 10 2010, 09:34 AM
Hi Daniel,

Welcome to the EDL forum. ;)

We are all about opposing 'radical' or 'extreme' Islam which is an ideology that has gained a foothold in Peterborough.

This ideology dictates how women think, feel and look. It hates gay people so much that it wants to kill them. It hates Christians, Jews and non-believers so much that it wants to convert or kill them too.

Troops from the local barracks in Peterborough have been abused and attacked by exponents of this wicked and evil death cult because of their links to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and all of them have been ordered not to wear their uniform in the town, for their own safety.

"For their own safety" one more time just so it sinks in FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY that is our own service men and women who are unable to wear their uniform out on the street because it is likely that they will be attacked. That's pretty fcuking disgraceful don't you think?

This means that the very enemy that our lads and lasses are out there fighting against are walking UNCHALLENGED among us. Well they aren't unchallenged any more because the EDL are here and we will oppose them with every fcuking fibre of our being! Wherever they raise their ugly, inbred, paedophilic heads, we will be there to oppose and expose them.

Islam has designs on this country of ours Daniel and if you want to see the plans then take a look around the globe at everywhere that it has been allowed to fester. Look at how it has 'enriched' the lives of so many peaceful people and you will see what the future has in store for us if we allow this cancer to spread here too.

'Religion of Peace' my arse!

Oh and Daniel, I have some bad news for you. Your muslim "friend" well he probably isn't your friend, in fact unless you are a muslim too, he is forbidden to make friends with you. But he is allowed to smile and lie to your face. ;)
Scott-lee, Very well said indeed. ;)

BUY THIS MAN A BEER !!

OH my fcuckin lord doesnt it sicken you when you think that they are walking around calling our soldiers "murderers", and burning flags and poppies.

""For their own safety" one more time just so it sinks in FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY that is our own service men and women who are unable to wear their uniform out on the street because it is likely that they will be attacked. That's pretty fcuking disgraceful don't you think?""

as im sure you know what Britain and America done during WW2. INTERNMENT CAMPS to any section of the community that was obvious threats I;E; Japanese-Germans, even Oswald mosley who would probably have been elavated to the position of British Fuhrer in the event of a succesfull German invasion...

AT THE LEAST WE SHOULD LOCK THE FCUKERS UP..

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@theenglishman thanks for that i would go down there to see what it is about but unfortunatly i work nights and dont finish work till 8 o'clock saturday morning but i would like to go to one are there any more in this area in the near future
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@ignominius i believe that the edl are not a fascist group and i agree with most of the things i have read on the forum but you do have quite a negative image in the media although from what i have read it is mostly unjust
It's just as well we have thick skin and don't take any notice. I never knew the media and journalists in unions have such a hidden agenda until I joined the ranks. Sensationalism sells papers.
For the BBC not to report the poppy burning was terrible considering it was in the papers, this fact alone shows they have a political agenda and that is to keep everyone in the dark. People pay a license fee and want to hear about these things, I for one feel the BBC need to have a massive shake out and employ non union staff only if they are going to be selective in an political sense about what they report on. They also need a independent watchdog to ensure that real news of interest is being reported, not some left wing agenda.
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@ignominius i believe that the edl are not a fascist group and i agree with most of the things i have read on the forum but you do have quite a negative image in the media although from what i have read it is mostly unjust
It's just as well we have thick skin and don't take any notice. I never knew the media and journalists in unions have such a hidden agenda until I joined the ranks. Sensationalism sells papers.
For the BBC not to report the poppy burning was terrible considering it was in the papers, this fact alone shows they have a political agenda and that is to keep everyone in the dark. People pay a license fee and want to hear about these things, I for one feel the BBC need to have a massive shake out and employ non union staff only if they are going to be selective in an political sense about what they report on. They also need a independent watchdog to ensure that real news of interest is being reported, not some left wing agenda.
AGREED....SPOT ON

That ugly dog Political Correctness raises its selective head again..

it would be interesting to know what WW2, Korean, Malayan, Borneo, Aden, Falklands, N ireland veterens felt upon seeing that. i wonder if the islamists human rights was paramount in their minds !!!!!


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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/37285/RAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-publicRAF-told-don-t-wear-uniform-in-public
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described as a “sad day for the city” by Peterborough’s mayor, Marion Todd, whose great-nephew, James Goldthorpe, is currently serving in Afghanistan with the Army. She added: “I honestly think it’s despicable. It’s a sad day for the city and for the country when the RAF can’t wear their uniforms.”



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why doesnt he step in an make a speech tell you why because hes worried of upset people
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i take it youve heard of ross parker if you live in peterborough.

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@theenglishman thanks for that i would go down there to see what it is about but unfortunatly i work nights and dont finish work till 8 o'clock saturday morning but i would like to go to one are there any more in this area in the near future
you got plenty of time to get there...
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he's gone...
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@clee1970 i'm still here only heard about this today on the forum i don't live in p'borough i live near it huntingdon, i said about ross parker in one of my previous posts it is atrocious i was reading another post on this forum talking about it saying there was no media coverage and i agreed i live 20 mins from p'borough and i had never heard of it until today its a disgrace
@prestonfootpatrol i can't make it because i work 7 at night to 6 in the morning and i have a 1 year old and only get time to spend with her at the weekend because i sleep during the day so there really is not enough time i'm afraid but i would like to check out what it's like at a march
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@prestonfootpatrol i can't make it because i work 7 at night to 6 in the morning and i have a 1 year old and only get time to spend with her at the weekend because i sleep during the day so there really is not enough time i'm afraid but i would like to check out what it's like at a march
im sure there will be ideos and updates on the website in the day time so can keep an eye that way mate
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@tulsa9856thomas cheers i will be doing that
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Dec 10 2010, 01:21 PM
my muslim freind is going to the counter march, he says to stand up to fascism

Ask your Muslim friend to explain the following verses of the Qu’ran . . 2:216; 3:28; 5:54; 5:55; 5:57; 9:16; 60:1 Ask him why Islam commands that he must not have non Muslim friends (see 3:28).

ISLAM IS A FASCIST IDEOLOGY. ISLAM IS A RACIST IDEOLOGY.

Of course first off you have to define fascist,
In 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist identified 14 points which he suggested defined fascism.

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Islam commands that Muslims owe allegiance to Islam and not their country of birth. There is no shortage of flag waving Muslims ready to kill anyone that would defile a symbol of Islam.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Subjugation of women, stoning to death of adulterers, beheading, limb amputation etc., etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The USA, the ‘west’ and everyone who is not Muslim and some Muslims who don’t want to fight are blamed for the failure of Muslim countries
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
It is the objective of every Muslim to become a martyr. The leader of the Muslim army would be the Caliph (if they had a Caliph). Read Qu’ran verse 2:216
5. Rampant Sexism –
The list is too long.
6. Controlled Mass Media
Show me a Muslim country with a free press?
7. Obsession with National Security
They are obsessed with getting non Muslims out of Muslim countries.
8. Religion and Government are intertwined
Islam is not just a religion it is also a political and social ideology and allows for no other form of governance other than Sharia law.
9. Corporate Power is Protected –
Oil
10. Labour Power is suppressed
Islam does not allow unions on Imams and Sharia law.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Remember the Muslims in Afghanistan that blew up those thousand year old statues.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Again Sharia law and a long list starting with killing of apostates
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Show me a Muslim country that is not corrupt?
14. Fraudulent Elections –
In Islam, elections are illegal.
Edited by albionuk, Dec 10 2010, 03:41 PM.
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Dec 10 2010, 03:37 PM
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Dec 10 2010, 01:21 PM
my muslim freind is going to the counter march, he says to stand up to fascism

Ask your Muslim friend to explain the following verses of the Qu’ran . . 2:216; 3:28; 5:54; 5:55; 5:57; 9:16; 60:1 Ask him why Islam commands that he must not have non Muslim friends (see 3:28).

ISLAM IS A FASCIST IDEOLOGY. ISLAM IS A RACIST IDEOLOGY.

Of course first off you have to define fascist,
In 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist identified 14 points which he suggested defined fascism.

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Islam commands that Muslims owe allegiance to Islam and not their country of birth. There is no shortage of flag waving Muslims ready to kill anyone that would defile a symbol of Islam.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Subjugation of women, stoning to death of adulterers, beheading, limb amputation etc., etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The USA, the ‘west’ and everyone who is not Muslim and some Muslims who don’t want to fight are blamed for the failure of Muslim countries
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
It is the objective of every Muslim to become a martyr. The leader of the Muslim army would be the Caliph (if they had a Caliph). Read Qu’ran verse 2:216
5. Rampant Sexism –
The list is too long.
6. Controlled Mass Media
Show me a Muslim country with a free press?
7. Obsession with National Security
They are obsessed with getting non Muslims out of Muslim countries.
8. Religion and Government are intertwined
Islam is not just a religion it is also a political and social ideology and allows for no other form of governance other than Sharia law.
9. Corporate Power is Protected –
Oil
10. Labour Power is suppressed
Islam does not allow unions on Imams and Sharia law.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Remember the Muslims in Afghanistan that blew up those thousand year old statues.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Again Sharia law and a long list starting with killing of apostates
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Show me a Muslim country that is not corrupt?
14. Fraudulent Elections –
In Islam, elections are illegal.
a lot of these facts could be said about every country but i get what your saying
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Dec 10 2010, 03:49 PM
a lot of these facts could be said about every country
That is correct and if you look at any debates on Left Wing fora on defining a fascist the same thing is said and at the end of the day they agree on a definition loosely describing Nazi Germany and have to then agree that Islam and the Islamic countries look more like Nazi Germany than any western democracy. They also agree that the labels fascist and racist are overused and thrown about by the Left to demonise anyone they oppose. All that said, taking the extended definition of racism which is generally adopted today to include not just races but any group, the Qu’ran contains many verses which are, de facto, racist. The problem is that moderate Muslims and the libertarian western governments are too frightened to state the true facts lest it opens up Pandoras box.

I could swamp you with verses from the Qu’ran - here just a few. . 2:216; 3:28; 5:54; 5:55; 5:57; 9:16; 60:1 - - look them up, print them up, give them to your Muslim mate and ask him to explain them.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/quran/index.htm
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I would say go down to a demo and check it out for yourself...make up your own mind :)
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Dec 10 2010, 08:13 AM
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Dec 10 2010, 07:48 AM
hello thanks for the quick reply i understand what radical islam is i was just wanting to know what the EDL's policy's are like do you stand against all asian faiths or is it just radical islam what are some of your groups goals and objectives also is there an irish division of the EDL i'm gonna guess it would be called the IDL that sort of stuff really also what are you views on racism i no you get a lot of trolls on here as i have seen in other posts on the forums but i genuinely want to know about your group cheers
The EDL just stand against radical Islam, we have no problem at all with other faiths nor do we give a damn about the colour of anyone's skin or sexuality and encourage them to join us in dealing with the biggest menace to world civilisation since the Nazi party. Hence we have Sikh, Hindu, Buddhist, atheist, you name it members.

We normally spot the trolls fairly quickly too, but it does get a bit wearing for some having to answer the same questions time and time again, hence the "hostile" and to the point replies.
Just do copy and paste if you're answering same questions all the time :)
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im sure if you join the anti EDL demo youll taste some islamic racism ,then youll no why we were created
"THEY CALL ME THE PUPET BOY BUT IM THE ONE PULLING THE STRINGS" GURAMIT SINGH
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