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I'm ashamed to be pakistani
Topic Started: Dec 10 2010, 01:22 AM (738 Views)
botty
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I can't take it any longer. I try to be courteous and respectful to everyone I meet but a vocal minority always ends up ruining it leading to people stereotyping all Asians. I hate some aspects of the culture, I hate the way these kids act like the black kids in American ghettos, most of all I hate that brown ass Amir khan.

How can I help the movement/

thanks.
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Are you a Pakistani muslim? What's your views on Islam? What's your view on the islamic radicals?
The t1ts that think they're living in the black American ghettos really p1ss me off and yes... Amir Khan,arrogant cnut
Edited by dudleyanglosaxon, Dec 10 2010, 01:30 AM.
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Well done for making a post like that. It's good that there are Pakistanis like you. :)
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botty
Dec 10 2010, 01:22 AM
I can't take it any longer. I try to be courteous and respectful to everyone I meet but a vocal minority always ends up ruining it leading to people stereotyping all Asians. I hate some aspects of the culture, I hate the way these kids act like the black kids in American ghettos, most of all I hate that brown ass Amir khan.

How can I help the movement/

thanks.
Well :huh: What's wrong with amid khan ?
It's not about hateing it's about loving,
Do you love your country
Do you love the culture
Than you can go to demo spread the word of EDL to friends and family, hand out flyers write to newspapers I'm sure they would take and intrest with you and the EDL knowing you are Pakistani you could help people relize that were not racist groups were patriots
SavageWolf
Dec 10 2010, 01:26 AM
botty
Dec 10 2010, 01:22 AM
I can't take it any longer. I try to be courteous and respectful to everyone I meet but a vocal minority always ends up ruining it leading to people stereotyping all Asians. I hate some aspects of the culture, I hate the way these kids act like the black kids in American ghettos, most of all I hate that brown ass Amir khan.

How can I help the movement/

thanks.
Well :huh: What's wrong with amid khan ?
It's not about hateing it's about loving,
Do you love your country
Do you love the culture
Than you can go to demo spread the word of EDL to friends and family, hand out flyers write to newspapers I'm sure they would take and intrest with you and the EDL knowing you are Pakistani you could help people relize that were not racist groups were patriots
Sorry not to be rude just beig an it thick,
Are a pakistainon ? If there is such a thing or is it palistinion ?
Sorry don't mean to be a dick just want to be correct :$
Edited by SavageWolf, Dec 10 2010, 01:29 AM.
"This is a sad day for all of us, and to none is it sadder than to me. Everything that I have worked for, everything that I have believed in during my public life, has crashed into ruins. There is only one thing left for me to do: That is, to devote what strength and powers I have to forwarding the victory of the cause for which we have to sacrifice so much"
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@ Savage Wolf

Are you really a student? What the fcuk do you study?
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Dec 10 2010, 01:25 AM
Are you a Pakistani muslim? What's your views on Islam? What's your view on the islamic radicals?
The t1ts that think they're living in the black American ghettos really p1ss me off and yes... Amir Khan,arrogant cnut
I was brought up as a Muslim by my parents but am no longer a practicing muslim. Obviously I condemn radicals of any faith but with suicide bombers I'm not sure how you can deter someone who is willing to kill themselves.
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Ahahaha are you fcuking sure?

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Dec 10 2010, 01:26 AM

Sorry not to be rude just beig an it thick,
Are a pakistainon ? If there is such a thing or is it palistinion ?
Sorry don't mean to be a dick just want to be correct :$ [/quote]



da fcuk???
Edited by Dangerous Dave, Dec 10 2010, 01:52 AM.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society"
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Dec 10 2010, 01:51 AM
SavageWolf
Dec 10 2010, 01:26 AM

Sorry not to be rude just beig an it thick,
Are a pakistainon ? If there is such a thing or is it palistinion ?
Sorry don't mean to be a dick just want to be correct :$


And he was defending students rights earlier :ermm:
Edited by dudleyanglosaxon, Dec 10 2010, 01:55 AM.
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I know, i saw that.. grammer and spelling may not be his forte.. but not knowing the difference between a pakistani and a palestinian.. really!!??
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society"
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Sorry not to be rude just beig an it thick,
Are a pakistainon ? If there is such a thing or is it palistinion ?
Sorry don't mean to be a dick just want to be correct

I don't think he studies English...or geography...can't think what he studies with a statement like that ^o)
Edited by dudleyanglosaxon, Dec 10 2010, 02:06 AM.
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not nice 2 take the piss.. but that was a bit 2 shocking 2 just let slide,

back to topic.. my man bottys having an identity crisis..
Edited by Dangerous Dave, Dec 10 2010, 02:12 AM.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society"
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Dec 10 2010, 02:11 AM
not nice 2 take the piss.. but that was a bit 2 shocking 2 just let slide,

back to topic.. my man bottys having an identity crisis..
What, you mean he wants to know whether he's a Pakistani or a Palestinian?
I think Scott Lee sussed it...

Hey Botty,why did you write "brown ass Amir Khan"?
Edited by dudleyanglosaxon, Dec 10 2010, 02:23 AM.
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botty
Dec 10 2010, 01:22 AM
I can't take it any longer. I try to be courteous and respectful to everyone I meet but a vocal minority always ends up ruining it leading to people stereotyping all Asians. I hate some aspects of the culture, I hate the way these kids act like the black kids in American ghettos, most of all I hate that brown ass Amir khan.

How can I help the movement/

thanks.

And this wahat I could say:

"I can't take it any longer. I try to be courteous and respectful to everyone I meet but a vocal minority always ends up ruining it leading to people stereotyping all people like me. I hate some aspects of the culture, I hate the way these kids act like the black kids in American ghettos, most of all I hate that other person..

How can I help the movement/"




See, we probably have much more in common than you may at first think!


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botty
Dec 10 2010, 01:22 AM
I can't take it any longer. I try to be courteous and respectful to everyone I meet but a vocal minority always ends up ruining it leading to people stereotyping all Asians. I hate some aspects of the culture, I hate the way these kids act like the black kids in American ghettos, most of all I hate that brown ass Amir khan.

How can I help the movement/

thanks.
The very fact that you are here talking to us means that you are ENGLISH dont be ashamed, be proud. You have brothers here exactly the same as yo have brothers in islam, the difference is.

we will still be here in 20 years time.... ;)
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not too sure about this one, smells a tad... trappy if you ask me ^o)
British by birth, English by the grace of God.


“St George he was for England, and before he killed the dragon, he drank a pint of English ale, out of an English flagon.”

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
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defo a piss take
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Dec 10 2010, 01:53 AM
Dangerous Dave
Dec 10 2010, 01:51 AM
SavageWolf
Dec 10 2010, 01:26 AM

Sorry not to be rude just beig an it thick,
Are a pakistainon ? If there is such a thing or is it palistinion ?
Sorry don't mean to be a dick just want to be correct :$


And he was defending students rights earlier :ermm:
i dont trust that savage wolf how can any1 have so many post's so soon. You tell some1 to go to demo's and spread the word. yet you havn't been to 1 yet..................dont trust this guy that started the thread aswel. God im paranoid. Gotta stop smoking that sh1t
Edited by prestonfootpatrol, Dec 10 2010, 09:12 AM.
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Just to update all you newbies. Every time that we have a demo we get an influx of people on Facebook and on here because of the publicity.

Some of these people are genuine and some of them not so. Usually in the week leading up to a demo we get an influx of trolls asking stupid questions looking to get a reaction so that they can screen-shot it and use it to quote the EDL.

Some of these are journo's and most of them are UAF or from any number of misguided, ill informed or just downright retarded and ignorant lefty scum from expose or antifa. ^o)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

If it looks like sh1t, smells like sh1t, tastes like sh1t then it is sh1t. Seemples. ;)
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I think it is wrong to dismiss someone like this as a troll. When we have an upcoming demo, then it stands to reason that the profile is going to be raised amongst muslims and lapsed muslims.

Please don't just dismiss someone and push them out. Let's give them a chance and find out if they are genuine in what they say. We have the validation and cage principles in operations - that means within those principles we should be prepared to give someone the benefit of the doubt.

We are going to get more muslims and ex-muslims who want to come on demos or get involved. We have to be open to that.
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Homo Sapien, I really admire your stance and I felt exactly the same way you did, that's why I did not write an entry. Maybe we should cut newbies a bit more slack until we know one way or the other. NS
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Moving to off topic - continue in there.
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It can be frustrating to newcomers to the edl the way we are all treated with suspision equally until we have attended a demo and been deemed as genuine,i was knocked back by my local division because i didnt know anyone in the edl ,this is understandable given the amount of trolls ,journos,uaf ,mdl,mac scum the edl has to contend with daily.

As i said i can understand this stance but as the edl grows and attracts more poeple who do not fit into the typical demographic and god forbid dont use facefcuk they are going to lose some good genuine folk who will give up at the first hurdle.

Yes i know if they give up at the first hurdle they aint true patriots ,its allmost as though putting up with this suspicion is some kind of test.

The edl is growing very fast and as it gathers more monentum this is going to be an ongoing problem,sometimes difficult calls have to be made so we should all trust the admins and mods who do a sterling job and have exsperience in sniffing out the troublemakers.


Roll on tommorow NS :)
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Dec 10 2010, 09:43 AM
Just to update all you newbies. Every time that we have a demo we get an influx of people on Facebook and on here because of the publicity.

Some of these people are genuine and some of them not so. Usually in the week leading up to a demo we get an influx of trolls asking stupid questions looking to get a reaction so that they can screen-shot it and use it to quote the EDL.

Some of these are journo's and most of them are UAF or from any number of misguided, ill informed or just downright retarded and ignorant lefty scum from expose or antifa. ^o)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

If it looks like sh1t, smells like sh1t, tastes like sh1t then it is sh1t. Seemples. ;)
It's understandable you would be a little skeptical of someone denouncing their culture but I have grown up in the asian community of peterborough for all my life (still do) and have seen firsthand the behavior of some of these pakistanis and am not blind enough to admit that there is something wrong. The fairs used to come down here to the local park annually but ever since a fight broke out between asians and whites they don't come closer than the city centre. Just a few months ago I saw a few of them sneak into some foreigners back yard and steal their mini-motor, the police knocked on my door a day later and I told them their names.

I know there are good asians out there but violence seems to be embedded into the culture and most idolize rappers more than they do any prophet. So I am just saying I can see where you are coming from but lets not profile a whole race.
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Dec 10 2010, 09:43 AM
Just to update all you newbies. Every time that we have a demo we get an influx of people on Facebook and on here because of the publicity.

Some of these people are genuine and some of them not so. Usually in the week leading up to a demo we get an influx of trolls asking stupid questions looking to get a reaction so that they can screen-shot it and use it to quote the EDL.

Some of these are journo's and most of them are UAF or from any number of misguided, ill informed or just downright retarded and ignorant lefty scum from expose or antifa. ^o)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

If it looks like sh1t, smells like sh1t, tastes like sh1t then it is sh1t. Seemples. ;)
I know I am genuine, and thats all that matters to me, I even have my own

chatroom on Paltalkscene, supporting the only movement that matters! E.D.L. :england:
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In this wonderfully enriching british multi-cultural society you are classified as asian and further sub-divided as pakistani. I am called white british. But I am not. I am English. I would like to know why you consider yourself to be pakisani rather than English.
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Dec 10 2010, 05:57 PM
In this wonderfully enriching british multi-cultural society you are classified as asian and further sub-divided as pakistani. I am called white british. But I am not. I am English. I would like to know why you consider yourself to be pakisani rather than English.
I was born in Pakistan but am a British citizen and grew up here. If no one else considers you British why should I? no point living a lie and being politically correct on the street your I know people just see me as another pakistani.
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If you were born in Pakistan, then that is who you are, so be proud of it.

If you were born in Pakistan, but have adapted your life to being British,

then you are more than welcome here as long as you pay your way.

But if you were born in England, then your roots are Englisc, and Pakistan

is as alien culture to you, because you will never have experienced the life

out there. However, if you are a troll as many people on here seem to think you are,

Then fcuk off to "ALLAH" and enjoy your virgins, I just hope for your sake, that they

don't all look like Susan Boyle! Merry Christmas Mukkagee!
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the rules are easy on here
you wanna embrace the English culture , tradition and civil way of being ? yes , you're in
you wanna bat for another team , you are not wanted on board this England flagship

turn up to the demo , show your colours
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Dec 10 2010, 09:43 AM
Just to update all you newbies. Every time that we have a demo we get an influx of people on Facebook and on here because of the publicity.

Some of these people are genuine and some of them not so. Usually in the week leading up to a demo we get an influx of trolls asking stupid questions looking to get a reaction so that they can screen-shot it and use it to quote the EDL.

Some of these are journo's and most of them are UAF or from any number of misguided, ill informed or just downright retarded and ignorant lefty scum from expose or antifa. ^o)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

If it looks like sh1t, smells like sh1t, tastes like sh1t then it is sh1t. Seemples. ;)
Hope I am not percieved as the above, I see myself as good timing, maybe a little late but here none the less.
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Dec 10 2010, 09:22 PM
the rules are easy on here
you wanna embrace the English culture , tradition and civil way of being ? yes , you're in
you wanna bat for another team , you are not wanted on board this England flagship

turn up to the demo , show your colours
Can't say fairer than that! ;)
ironshanks
Dec 10 2010, 05:57 PM
In this wonderfully enriching british multi-cultural society you are classified as asian and further sub-divided as pakistani. I am called white british. But I am not. I am English. I would like to know why you consider yourself to be pakisani rather than English.
Well said!
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Dec 10 2010, 09:43 AM
Just to update all you newbies. Every time that we have a demo we get an influx of people on Facebook and on here because of the publicity.

Some of these people are genuine and some of them not so. Usually in the week leading up to a demo we get an influx of trolls asking stupid questions looking to get a reaction so that they can screen-shot it and use it to quote the EDL.

Some of these are journo's and most of them are UAF or from any number of misguided, ill informed or just downright retarded and ignorant lefty scum from expose or antifa. ^o)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

If it looks like sh1t, smells like sh1t, tastes like sh1t then it is sh1t. Seemples. ;)
Hope I am not percieved as the above, I see myself as good timing, maybe a little late but here none the less.

No one was referring to you, Flappy, relax. :)
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Dec 10 2010, 09:43 AM
Just to update all you newbies. Every time that we have a demo we get an influx of people on Facebook and on here because of the publicity.

Some of these people are genuine and some of them not so. Usually in the week leading up to a demo we get an influx of trolls asking stupid questions looking to get a reaction so that they can screen-shot it and use it to quote the EDL.

Some of these are journo's and most of them are UAF or from any number of misguided, ill informed or just downright retarded and ignorant lefty scum from expose or antifa. ^o)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

If it looks like sh1t, smells like sh1t, tastes like sh1t then it is sh1t. Seemples. ;)
Hope I am not percieved as the above, I see myself as good timing, maybe a little late but here none the less.

No one was referring to you, Flappy, relax. :)
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Im glad noone put anything here to make us out to look like a bunch of racists, just shows what the EDL really are about :) Sorry botty the UAF won't be getting any misleading quotes on this one
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Nobody should be ashamed of their race. The major problem the media has with the anti-Islamification movement is that they conflate religion with race, when the two are entirely separate. One of the most frustrating things about aspects of the anti-Islamification movement is that it has been hijacked, to some extent, by the genuine racist far right, who would distinguish a person's Britishness by their skin colour or their sexual orientation, when no such distinctions have been irrelevant since the Roman invasion of Britain in AD 43. In reality, it doesn't really matter what religion you belong to so long as you respect the freedom of other people to carry on how they fit and speak how they see fit, then you are rightfully entitled to every protection under the law. It's really not a difficult society to get along in.

Sometimes it's easy to forget that Islam is pernicious philosophy that threatens most of its detractors, the majority of who worldwide are former Muslims, with exile from their families and friends, death by stoning and eternal torment in the hereafter. It's easy to see then how difficult it is for any individual to step away from that sort of background, which is what makes the religion as dangerous as it is. You shouldn't feel ashamed of your race or your community, but rather feel proud that despite the pressures put on you, you've made an educated decision on what you think is right.
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All Botty is saying is that he is pissed off with the idiots who's behavour is making all Asians look bad when he is trying to be nice and friendly to every one.
Sound familiar. The majority of the EDL work hard to raise the profile of the EDL and to improve its image, but what happens a very small number of complete dick heads through their yobish behavour undo all our hard work. I think a lot of us know exactly how he feels.
I agree with Homo Sapien on this one
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Dec 10 2010, 09:43 AM
Just to update all you newbies. Every time that we have a demo we get an influx of people on Facebook and on here because of the publicity.

Some of these people are genuine and some of them not so. Usually in the week leading up to a demo we get an influx of trolls asking stupid questions looking to get a reaction so that they can screen-shot it and use it to quote the EDL.

Some of these are journo's and most of them are UAF or from any number of misguided, ill informed or just downright retarded and ignorant lefty scum from expose or antifa. ^o)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

If it looks like sh1t, smells like sh1t, tastes like sh1t then it is sh1t. Seemples. ;)
Hope I am not percieved as the above, I see myself as good timing, maybe a little late but here none the less.
I was stood behind you at Peterborough Flappy. Nice tats m8 ;)

And hey if I'm wrong about people trolling I do apologise most sincerely but we do get a lot of it and some of it is as obvious as it seems. ^o)
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Dec 10 2010, 09:43 AM
Just to update all you newbies. Every time that we have a demo we get an influx of people on Facebook and on here because of the publicity.

Some of these people are genuine and some of them not so. Usually in the week leading up to a demo we get an influx of trolls asking stupid questions looking to get a reaction so that they can screen-shot it and use it to quote the EDL.

Some of these are journo's and most of them are UAF or from any number of misguided, ill informed or just downright retarded and ignorant lefty scum from expose or antifa. ^o)

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

If it looks like sh1t, smells like sh1t, tastes like sh1t then it is sh1t. Seemples. ;)
Hope I am not percieved as the above, I see myself as good timing, maybe a little late but here none the less.
I was stood behind you at Peterborough Flappy. Nice tats m8 ;)

And hey if I'm wrong about people trolling I do apologise most sincerely but we do get a lot of it and some of it is as obvious as it seems. ^o)
and you never flicked my ears ;) :D

After attending my first march yesterday I now fully appreciate the reason behind the guarded chest of the EDL and how open it is to trolling and people joining just to be disrespectful and biased.
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Are you Pakistani by birth or by family origin? Either way be proud of who you are. There is nothing to be ashamed of being either Pakistani or a Pakistani Brit. If you are the latter, a British born pakistani, is your loyalty to the homeland of your parents or to your own homeland England?

If you were born here whether you are Muslim or not your first loyalty should be to this country.
The Ummah should have your loyalty also, but you should view the ummah not in terms of territories or perceived (mostly self-inflicted) injustices, but in terms of spiritual solidarity. This world whether you are Christian , Jew or Muslim is a passing transient thing compared to the eternity of Jannah/Heaven
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