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| iENGAGE Chucked Off All Party Parliamentary Group on Islamophobia | |
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| Deleted User | Dec 8 2010, 09:25 PM Post #1 |
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iENGAGE Chucked Off All Party Parliamentary Group on Islamophobia Lucy Lips, December 8th 2010, 2:28 pm Martin Bright has the scoop. A new parliamentary group set up to tackle Islamophobia has been forced to end its partnership with a controversial Muslim organisation which has campaigned against “Zionist” teachings at Jewish schools. It has also defended radical Islamist preachers and targeted moderate Muslim groups which raised concerns about the rise of Islamist politics in Britain. Eyebrows were raised last month when the new group, chaired by Conservative MP Kris Hopkins, announced that Engage would provide its administrative secretariat. However, Mr Hopkins was this week persuaded to ask the organisation, (not to be confused with the identically-named antisemitism monitoring group), to withdraw its offer of support. The change of heart followed a detailed online attack on the organisation by former Tory MP and communities spokesman Paul Goodman, who is now executive editor of the Conservative Home website. This is an absolute disaster for iENGAGE, the Bunglawala family who run it, and for the Islam Channel’s Mohammed Ali Harrath, who is its director. I do think that there is a good argument for an APPG to look at attacks on, and the whipping up of hatred against, Muslims. Sometimes the motivation is racism. Sometimes it is bigotry against Muslims. Sometimes it is conspiracism about Islam which I think can fairly be described as Islamophobia. However you describe it, it is the enemy of an integrated and cohesive society. So too are the activities of a handful of extremist Islamist political parties, which themselves whip up hatred against other minorities: notably women, Jews, gays and non-Islamist Muslims. Unfortunately, iENGAGE’s output over the last few years shows that it sees one of its major functions as being the defence of those Islamist parties, and indeed a number of hate preachers. Simon Hughes, the Liberal Democrat MP, emerges very badly from this business. He continues, even now, to defend iENGAGE: Simon Hughes issued a statement backing the organisation: “Engage is an organisation which promotes the participation and engagement of young Muslims in the public sphere. Occasionally this may mean that the group represents views that others may disagree with. “But as long as they stay within the law and enter into the sprit of a democratic dialogue, I have no problem with them providing support to the APPG on Islamophobia, a group which exists precisely to advance reasoned debate on faith issues in our country.” That is a serious misdescription of iENGAGE. Hughes must know it. Yet, Hughes has form as a supporter of Islamist politics. He is a regular speaker at the Islam Channel’s Global Peace and Unity Event, which showcases hate preachers. This is quite remarkable – Simon Hughes is a gay man and, supposedly, a liberal. Yet, he consistently allies himself with political groups which attack liberal Muslims, are virulently homophobic and would like to establish a state in which gay men would be executed. What is wrong with him? You can imagine what the reaction of iENGAGE will be to this. They will claim to be a victim of Islamophobia. They’re not. Alec adds – oh, Bungles. link http://hurryupharry.org/2010/12/08/iengage-chucked-off-all-party-parliamentary-group-on-islamophobia/ |
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| Deleted User | Dec 8 2010, 09:29 PM Post #2 |
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simon hughes is a f*****g idiot |
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| Deleted User | Dec 8 2010, 09:31 PM Post #3 |
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That Simon Hughes is a prize plonker. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 8 2010, 09:33 PM Post #4 |
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Great news
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| pyrus | Dec 8 2010, 09:45 PM Post #5 |
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the term 'islamophobia' doesn't do anything "to advance reasoned debate on faith issues in our country" - why should we imagine that any groups promoting the term will? |
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| Deleted User | Dec 8 2010, 10:27 PM Post #6 |
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Excellent news! So then, the muzzie org's are coming across as a bit dodgy? I can't, for the life of me, see how anyone is surprised by this!!! |
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| Deleted User | Dec 9 2010, 12:09 AM Post #7 |
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The move shifted with the Quilliar "leaked" report in the summer, which basically said that all the mainstream muslim organisations are islamists. That move is now continuing, with the MCB being classed as "islamist". And so it should be. MCB has been homophobic and anti-semitic (despite the protestations) for over a decade (througout the 21st century they have refused to attend Holocaust Memorial Day). I used to hate the concept of "islamist" because it was presented as a category that only contained a small number of muslim terrorist groups. Now that it has been quietly extended to include almost every muslim organisation that promotes sharia, anti-semitism, and homophobia I'm (obviously) much happier with it. And as we know from David Cameron's speech in 2005, "islamists are nazis". Nazi scum, off our streets! Down with HNH, UAF and the other socialist allies of National Socialism and Islamo-Fascism! |
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| pyrus | Dec 9 2010, 12:19 AM Post #8 |
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here here! |
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| Deleted User | Dec 9 2010, 04:05 AM Post #9 |
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This is such good news. Old Bungle and his Islamist cohorts (especially those in Preston and elsewhere) are no doubt in a state of shock and wondering where they went wrong (pmsl). All those big (hateful) plans, all gone up in a puff of smoke LOL. Let's hope that they don't wangle themselves back in, in any way - they don't give up easily, snidey bastids that they are. Good on Goodman, and kudos to Gilligan and Quilliam.....and "up yours HUGHES", you pathetic piece of scum. NS
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| Deleted User | Dec 9 2010, 07:57 AM Post #10 |
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Great news: Islamists lose their Parliamentary foothold Two weeks ago I reported how Islamists had established a bridgehead in Parliament. A group called Engage (or iEngage) got itself appointed as the secretariat of a new all-party parliamentary group on Islamophobia. Islamophobia is rapidly emerging as the Islamists’ favoured new front – they have taken to conflating themselves with the entire Muslim community and damning any attacks on their tiny minority reading of Islam as an “Islamophobic” assault on the whole faith. Engage is at the heart of this process, an organisation which specialises in defending fundamentalist bodies such as the East London Mosque and the Islamic Forum of Europe and attacking all criticism of them as “Islamophobic.” It attacked the BBC’s recent Panorama documentary on racist Muslim schools – showing that some children are being taught anti-Semitism and Sharia punishments – as a “witch-hunt.” Typically, it launched its attack before even seeing the programme. It attacked me for writing about the East London Mosque’s hosting of the terrorist preacher, Anwar al-Awlaki, in 2009 – advertised with a poster showing New York under bombardment. It peddled the straightforward lie told by the mosque that no-one had realised Awlaki was a bad egg at that stage. It wrote to the Home Secretary to protest against the ban on the extremist preacher, Zakir Naik, who has stated that “every Muslim should be a terrorist.” It attacked the Independent columnist, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, one of the country’s major voices of moderate Islam, for her opposition to the niqab and the burka. Today, I am delighted to say, Engage has been dropped as the secretariat to the all-party group. I understand that a number of parliamentarians on the group threatened to resign once they were made aware of its true views and links. Congratulations to the Harry’s Place blog, Conservative Home and the former MP Paul Goodman for drawing attention to the issue, and keeping up the pressure. As we have seen with the East London Mosque, Islamists have in the past won access to power by being dishonest about their objectionable views. Today’s news is the latest evidence that now that their tactics are being exposed, and the truth about them is being told, they are being consistently pushed back. link http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100067307/great-news-islamists-lose-their-parliamentary-foothold/ |
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| wodin | Dec 9 2010, 11:48 AM Post #11 |
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Simon Hugh's is the type of MP who would hide behind the sofa when it all kicks off, then again aren't they all! Simon Hugh's is the type of MP who would hide behind the sofa when it all kicks off, then again aren't they all! Edited by wodin, Dec 9 2010, 11:49 AM.
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| Deleted User | Dec 9 2010, 12:13 PM Post #12 |
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In the election that brought the disgusting slimeball Hughes into Parliament, Hughes' LibDems in Bermondsey villified Tatchell because of his homosexuality. It was an open secret that Hughes was a homo - but the media kept quiet about it rather than get proof and out him for the hypocrite he was. Once that part of London was suitably gentrified Hughes came out of the closet. I have it on good authority that wherever he walks he leaves a trail of slime behind him. Oh yes - and he's allergic to salt. No doubt Hughes (probably the biggest hypocrite among the 650 of them in Parliament) would convert to islam like a shot, provided he still could sit in the same room as the people in power. If a scientist could convert the smell of hypocrisy into electricity, Hughes alone could replace a few coal stations. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 9 2010, 12:37 PM Post #13 |
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They'll be back but in a slightly different guise and they will keep coming back until they find a form that fits and one which the politicians can say doesn't damage their already tarnished reputations. We know the players, we know their tactics and more importantly we know their intentions.
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| Deleted User | Dec 9 2010, 02:59 PM Post #14 |
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Yep, well done to Harry's too, they do a fair bit of good work connecting the dots and bringing to the fore the dodgy dealings of iEngage, Bungles and the like. Here is the full article from Martin Bright: Anti-Islamophobia parliamentary group drop 'Islamist' secretariat By Martin Bright, December 8, 2010 Lord Janner A new parliamentary group set up to tackle Islamophobia has been forced to end its partnership with a controversial Muslim organisation which has campaigned against “Zionist” teachings at Jewish schools. It has also defended radical Islamist preachers and targeted moderate Muslim groups which raised concerns about the rise of Islamist politics in Britain. Eyebrows were raised last month when the new group, chaired by Conservative MP Kris Hopkins, announced that Engage would provide its administrative secretariat. However, Mr Hopkins was this week persuaded to ask the organisation, (not to be confused with the identically-named antisemitism monitoring group), to withdraw its offer of support. The change of heart followed a detailed online attack on the organisation by former Tory MP and communities spokesman Paul Goodman, who is now executive editor of the Conservative Home website. According to its publicity, Engage is “dedicated to promoting greater media awareness, political participation and civic engagement amongst Muslims.” However, the organisation also has an explicit anti-Zionist agenda with regular posts on its website about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The organisation argues that the injustice of the treatment of Palestinians feeds global Islamophobia. The new parliamentary group to tackle Islamophobia boasts Labour peer Lord Janner and Liberal Democrat President Simon Hughes as its vice-chairs and also enjoys the support of former Labour Justice Secretary Jack Straw. The JC understands that at least one former Labour minister warned Lord Janner to steer clear of Engage and senior members of the Jewish community have also raised their concerns. Mr Hopkins and Lord Janner agreed on Tuesday to drop Engage. However, in a surprise move, Simon Hughes issued a statement backing the organisation: “Engage is an organisation which promotes the participation and engagement of young Muslims in the public sphere. Occasionally this may mean that the group represents views that others may disagree with. "But as long as they stay within the law and enter into the sprit of a democratic dialogue, I have no problem with them providing support to the APPG on Islamophobia, a group which exists precisely to advance reasoned debate on faith issues in our country.” In June, Mohammed Asif, chief executive of Engage, wrote to Education Secretary Michael Gove to express his opposition to Zionism being taught in Jewish schools. "Zionism is not part of the Jewish faith," he wrote. "It is a political ideology which has its roots in the works of Theodore Herzl and subsequent ideologues that have advanced the idea of a national struggle to establish a homeland for the Jews in the modern era." The Engage website described Sunday Telegraph reporter Andrew Gilligan as “deranged” after he raised questions about whether the organisation was independent enough to perform the functions of secretariat to the all-party group. In recent years the group has defended the right of radical Muslim preachers to come to Britain and express their views and opposed the ban on extremist group Hizb-ut-Tahrir from university campuses. Engage has also challenged those who condemned the Muslim Council of Britain’s Daud Abdullah for signing the Istanbul Declaration, which urged attacks on the British navy. One comment on the Engage post announcing the establishment of the Islamophobia group said: “Jews and Christian scholars, the so called Western Orientals have always tried to mispresent Islam in their writings. They have always tried to spread baseless lies against Islam in a very authentic and scholarly style, hiding their deep rooted hatred against Islam.” The equivalent parliamentary group on antisemitism is run by the Parliamentary Committee Against Anti-Semitism Foundation, an independent charity specifically set up for the purpose. Danny Stone, director of the PCAA Foundation and secretary to the All-Party Parliamentary Group Against Antisemitism said: "I am 100 per cent behind an all-party group on Islamophobia and have offered my support to its chair, Kris Hopkins MP. Any secretariat would, of course, have to be beyond reproach as regards racism and antisemitism." http://www.thejc.com/politics/42307/anti-islamophobia-parliamentary-group-drops-muslim-secretariat |
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