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| Ibrahim Al-Buleihi , the West-loving Arab Islamic scholar; Former Saudi Shura Council Member Ibrahim Al-Buleihi praises Western culture on Saudi Arabian TV | |
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| donPelayo | Dec 8 2010, 03:34 AM Post #1 |
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What do you guys think? ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zxuMKP_kqg |
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| tektwo | Dec 8 2010, 03:59 AM Post #2 |
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Brave man... He will probably be dead for his bravery. As experience has taught me the Arab world feel's like they invented everything. They still claim that all science and math was created by them and that all the resulting technologies today are due to there excellence. Arab's never want to take responsibility for there action's, they will listen to this man and say he is a Zionist traitor or american devil or traitor to Islam. They will just ignore what he says. |
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"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto | |
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| donPelayo | Dec 8 2010, 11:50 PM Post #3 |
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I think he's either a closet apostate or in deep denial about the implications of his thoughts. Everything he says point at all-out blasphemy, but he doesn't quite go there. I see what you mean. Islamic culture would be funny if it weren't so dangerous. |
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| Mahihkan | Dec 9 2010, 12:10 AM Post #4 |
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A man to be admired. It will be interesting to see if his idea of individualism will have any impact. I am sure that there are more people in the world of Islam that do believe as he does, but are stifled by the law. They would have so much more to offer the world if they could modernize their philosophy. |
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| hooah9422 | Dec 9 2010, 12:19 AM Post #5 |
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when the public stands together and says no to oil and yes to alternative fuel,the middle east will have nothing at all. |
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| tektwo | Dec 9 2010, 12:56 AM Post #6 |
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what i really do not get is why we are not using hydrogen power, screw wind farms, solar, ethanol... we have viable hydrogen technology today. we should not be dicking around with electric hybrids or straight electric, that still relies on fossil fuels for power to charge the batteries. bmw, toyota, lincoln, ford have all built hydrogen car's, the biggest problem is cost (because of new technology) and lack of fueling station. hydrogen would not only solve consumer but military problems as well. hydrogen will give us more powerful engines with less maintenance than fossil fuels and cost literally beans to power. |
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"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto | |
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| donPelayo | Dec 9 2010, 01:27 AM Post #7 |
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But Hidrogen is not a source of energy, just a storage techonology, like batteries. H2 in normally produced by water electrolysis, using up more energy than it gives back, as indicated by the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics. It can also be extracted from natural gas and some other sources, but for H2 to be an energy source we would have to find huge natural deposits of pure H2, which is not the case. |
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| tektwo | Dec 9 2010, 01:38 AM Post #8 |
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i agree in part, the process of creating hydrogen requires energy, but hydrogen contains more than 3x the amount of energy as fossil fuels per oz. while we do need power to convert water to hydrogen via electrolysis or thermal decomposition, hydrogen itself contains 3x more power per unit than fossil fuels... in the end we use much less power creating hydrogen then not. we also have much of the infrastructure in the states to start creating hydrogen, just not anything to distribute it. i would guess the real key to making hydrogen a sustainable and cheap technology is in finding more efficient means of turning water into hydrogen. with so much water on this planet, making hydrogen a safe and efficient fuel source seem's like a logical next step. |
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"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this:'Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah'(i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." - Vernon Richards Nizom, Novil, Ne'haveh Dugma VeNenaze'ah - We shall Innovate, Lead, Set an Example and Win. - My Paratrooper Unit Motto | |
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| desade | Dec 9 2010, 02:47 AM Post #9 |
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I can see the logic of this, and no doubt can the islamists, which I suspect is propelling them to try and invade the West as a matter of urgency at the present time. They must be resisted at all costs. The West cannot allow itself to be overrun by a stone age view of human exsistance, and be reduced to a mere servant of some non exsistant 'god'. NFSE. |
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| donPelayo | Dec 9 2010, 04:09 AM Post #10 |
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Trust me on that one, unless all I learned about thermodynamics in the uni is wrong, H2 is a great storage technology, but not an actual energetic resource. For that, the best options to cut down oil consumption are nuclear, coal, gas and renewables. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 9 2010, 07:48 AM Post #11 |
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We're going off-topic, but in 2009 Saudi Arabia predicted that within a decade they will be asking the west for charitable aid. That's not because they've admitted that we've passed peak oil, but merely a sign of how wasteful their management of their economy has been, how totally reliant it is on continued oil sales, and the predicted fall in demand for oil if western countries do adopt more "green" policies. I've seen the Saudis arrive at Claridges Hotel - an entire floor will be booked out for just 1 person and his/her entourage. This is a hotel where the most basic rooms costs about £250/night. And in 10 years time they're going to be asking for charity. We might see the funds for mosque-building dry up before that happen. |
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| Bleeding_Through | Dec 9 2010, 09:35 AM Post #12 |
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The thing is, all the saudi islamists will start calling this man a "prostitute of the west" etc. Their backward way of thinking won't allow them to see the point he is making. To me this man is an arab nationalist that realises that arab individualism will be wiped out by a complete and utter islamic doctrine. He correctly highlights (particularly the gulf states) that until the west decided to exploit their natural resource (guess which one) they were dwelling in tents in the sand with camels. Saudi in particular has benefitted greatly from the west. And similarly to Japan, can in the future become a stand alone independent power, with ITS OWN TAKE ON LIFE. The key point here is the guy isn't advocating that Saudi becomes an offshoot of the U.S.A. But to enrich themselves with Western values and concepts like Japan has, and then create their own path and future. Unfortunately the barrier to this in their country is 1-monarchial reign and 2-wahabi islam. The two are also unfortunately linked. Very interesting concepts about herd mentality also. Very good find! And a good listen. |
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| donPelayo | Dec 10 2010, 12:58 AM Post #13 |
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Really? I'm SO looking forward to it. |
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