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| Jdenison10 | Dec 7 2010, 11:49 AM Post #1 |
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It annoys me no end, that when panorama showed the islamic education centres and places alike, that the muslims were so keen to point out that the qur'an was written thousands of years ago, and there for stating they believe that the holy book is read "out of context" "It was a time when islam came under threat from none believers" said some of them, and they claim that the none befriending of infidels and killing of Jewish people, was merely allahs battle plan at that specific era in time. As if to say we infidels should take no notice of it, and stop worrying about it. There either just doing the obvious and using that as a cover up for there evil ideology, or there completley blind in both eyes and can't see that this sort of behaviour and these so called "battle plans of 7th century islam" is still going on today. Take the article posted by another member on here, the one about the Jewish people been driven out of Netherlands by muslims, and then even closer to home, Oxford university been declared a "Jew Free Zone" To say these people expect the rest of us to take no notice, and remember it was written many moonago, they never fail to show there anti semetic views taught to muslims by allah 14 CENTURIES AGO. Another thing I don't understand if this was just a "battle plan" why the hell was made into a holy book? I mean the strategies, tactics, and plans Sir Winston made for both world wares (full respect for heroes) were battle plans, but we didn't start a new religion using Churchills words! You don't see people still to this day attacking Germany because of a war that happened 70 years ago. I understand many muslims do follow it and class it as a religion because of the teachings, of how to handle death, marriage, divorce and various other things and also because of the way, it tells of the stories and meetings between allah and muhammed and various other people. An ideology is a set of ideas that constitutes one's goals, expectations, and actions. That's exactley what islam is. Not to mention: 1) the attacks on churches 2) 7/11 and the rest of the endless list of extremist actions taken in recent times Edited by Jdenison10, Dec 7 2010, 11:51 AM.
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and from this day forward, as we have right from the start, come wind and rain, we won't complain, we'll continue to march. We'll be there in our numbers, We'll make our voices heard, to defend our land from hate preachers, counter there every word. demo days and meet and greets, serious but fun, and at the end of everything, with victory over scum, you'll here us cheers, OI get us a beer, our hard work here is done. | |
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| English Angel | Dec 7 2010, 12:15 PM Post #2 |
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one word: Taqiyya i.e. they would say that wouldn't they. Your right, it's ridiulous that there are followers of that faith that still follow their holy book to the letter despite it being written thousands of years ago, and thats why we're all here tbh. As you say, we didnt start a new religion using Churchills' words but maybe we should! |
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| UK-Jack | Dec 7 2010, 12:29 PM Post #3 |
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There is a massive conspiracy going on in Britain to allow islam to take over Britain. You may think I am mad lol. I could not be more serious. Anyone with half a brain cell can clearly see the dangers that radical islam poses. Radical islam has people of influence at all levels in this country and one day in the very near future, I expect them to start an islamic political party, while we will divide our vote, they will all tactically vote just like Tower Hamlets but on a bigger scale. The powers to be of radical islam realise they have done it once in Tower Hamlets and it can be done again and again, they will use our freedom and democracy against us. It saddens me to say this the Queen and our politicians will not stand in the way of islam and when you have prince Charles singing the praises of islam and he is the future King of England, you may just start to see the trouble we are getting ourselves in. NS |
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| Jdenison10 | Dec 7 2010, 12:31 PM Post #4 |
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Starting a new religion, I'm up for that
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and from this day forward, as we have right from the start, come wind and rain, we won't complain, we'll continue to march. We'll be there in our numbers, We'll make our voices heard, to defend our land from hate preachers, counter there every word. demo days and meet and greets, serious but fun, and at the end of everything, with victory over scum, you'll here us cheers, OI get us a beer, our hard work here is done. | |
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| Deleted User | Dec 7 2010, 12:33 PM Post #5 |
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F**k it, lets move to middle earth. |
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| Jdenison10 | Dec 7 2010, 12:35 PM Post #6 |
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I suppose we just have to keep battling away the best we can, In a hope that someone will listen and do something to stop the rot. |
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and from this day forward, as we have right from the start, come wind and rain, we won't complain, we'll continue to march. We'll be there in our numbers, We'll make our voices heard, to defend our land from hate preachers, counter there every word. demo days and meet and greets, serious but fun, and at the end of everything, with victory over scum, you'll here us cheers, OI get us a beer, our hard work here is done. | |
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| UK-Jack | Dec 7 2010, 12:38 PM Post #7 |
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Deep down, I think we all know what the end game in Britain will be played out like but we will have no choice and the words " No Surrender " will take on a meaning, rather than be words written on a forum. NS |
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| Jdenison10 | Dec 7 2010, 12:51 PM Post #8 |
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Civil war - the final straw!! |
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and from this day forward, as we have right from the start, come wind and rain, we won't complain, we'll continue to march. We'll be there in our numbers, We'll make our voices heard, to defend our land from hate preachers, counter there every word. demo days and meet and greets, serious but fun, and at the end of everything, with victory over scum, you'll here us cheers, OI get us a beer, our hard work here is done. | |
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| L4E | Dec 7 2010, 01:15 PM Post #9 |
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Returning to the OPs topic, and this probably has been pointed out a number of times, but is worth mentioning again. Isn't it convenient that the violent and contentious stuff which they try to discredit to centuries past, but the peaceful stuff they quote, well that is applicable to today, how convenient? Please can someone show me in the quran, where it says all the peaceful stuff is applicable indefinately but the violent passages are only applicable in context? I think someone is telling porky pies. |
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| RDG | Dec 7 2010, 01:47 PM Post #10 |
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It can only be a conspiracy, OR a government/police/local authorities that will not see what is obvious to the rest of us. All they ever do is rubbish the likes of the EDL, but at the same time appease those that are the biggest threat to our security since ww2. It,s been said many times that unless those in authority wake up and see just what is happening in Briton it will end up with violence. How much more evidence do they need? Another 7/7? God forbid that another will happen, but even if it does these people will STILL go out of their way to make excuses for the cancer called islam. (extremist islam of course). |
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| Capt Haddock | Dec 7 2010, 02:01 PM Post #11 |
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You may well be correct, the problem I see is parliament has little power these days, and everything comes from Brussels. This is no excuse on behalf of the weaklings and cowards that supposed to resent us here though, they've all been too busy getting their claims in for expenses over the last few years, with little regard to the welfare of our country. It makes me sick, it really does. Just when you thought we got rid of the leftwing twits whom have virtually destroyed this country, we get a toffee nosed git in the shape of Cameron saying: ". Not for the first time, I found myself thinking that it is mainstream Britain which needs to integrate more with the British Asian (aka muslim) way of life, not the other way around." http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/may/13/comment.communities Be afraid, be very afraid. |
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| English Angel | Dec 7 2010, 02:35 PM Post #12 |
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never thought about it before, but thats a very good point ^^ or buy an island like Jersey and do what they do, control who lives there! No Islam allowed ! ![]() I dont think your mad at all, I think your spot on. The reality is they have got themselves into political power by becoming councillors/MPs while we've been sat at home watching footy and corrie simplistic I know, but hopefully you get my drift Edited by English Angel, Dec 7 2010, 02:39 PM.
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| UK-Jack | Dec 7 2010, 02:51 PM Post #13 |
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I am glad some of you think I don't belong on a funny farm. NS |
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| Deleted User | Dec 7 2010, 03:56 PM Post #14 |
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thats why we're here |
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| waspish | Dec 7 2010, 04:16 PM Post #15 |
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Be afraid, be very afraid. never............................. The only fear I personally have is that too many people are still pandering to this evil ideology of hatred and mysogeny. i'd rather have wasps up my arse than shake hands with islam. on any level. surrender isnt an option. |
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| Bob England | Dec 7 2010, 04:18 PM Post #16 |
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Nope but I bet you are like me and that is when you tell some people they think you are cukkoo! I have to admit I have opened a few eyes with my never ending rants but................... we need a hell of a lot more people to wake up and soon! |
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| a fresh start | Dec 7 2010, 04:22 PM Post #17 |
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The sleeper must awaken! and when they do, this is going to be rocky times in the UK. the liberals and the lefties have been modycodelling this issue for far too long, i can wait for the day they try to impose sharia on us, our women forced to cover up, alcohol banned....oh yea i can see the masses taking that lightly! |
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| UK-Jack | Dec 7 2010, 04:47 PM Post #18 |
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Blackfoot, on Sunday night I told my wife of my intentions to take time off, even if I am working to go to Tommy's court case and to be at Luton next year, she asked me then, why I am travelling all over the country, we then got into a verbal disagreement, I pointed out to her, why we do what we do and someone has to pay a price for freedom we take for granted, she still couldn't see it. I told her that she is so wrapped up in her own little world that she can't or won't accept what is happening in Britain, she said she was living for today and then I lost the plot telling her, that, that was exactly the problem in this country and I know that one day if we lose Britain to radical islam, those who did nothing will be shedding tears for ever and a day because they had the same chance as us to do something but yet they did nothing. My wife did apologise yesterday because she said the argument was her fault, but I know deep down, she doesn't wan't to see what is happening in the UK and worse still she doesn't want to do anything about it either, I have said if for nothing else do it for our children's children. I gave her the example at how devious and clever radical islam is and I used Tower Hamlets, I told her it was the first town to fall to islam in the UK and there will be more for sure. In Wales, we do not have a massive problem with radical islam like some regions of the UK, so the Welsh are thinking what's the problem but the situation we are all in, is like a very beautiful mountain with a volcano in it, about to erupt and cause so much devastation, so why did I write this because if people like my wife can't or don't want to see it, we have got to do some serious education on the sheeple. One thing is for sure whatever happens, I will never submit to radical islam. God bless us all. NS |
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| Deleted User | Dec 7 2010, 04:51 PM Post #19 |
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You're not far wrong, imo.
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| Deleted User | Dec 7 2010, 05:22 PM Post #20 |
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I agree with everything you've said, EVERYTHING. You are telling me what I know, what I feel and what I suspect. But one thing I fail to understand is this: Your apologies! Not needed, completely out of context and not fit to be read in this topic! You need make no apologies. You, My Good Man, have hit many nails on the head, it's such a pity more good people aren't saying what you are saying. Maybe the disageement was your wife's fault or maybe not, I wasn't there so can't comment but, even if she can only begin to understand the things you've brought to her attention, you've made progress and she'll hopefully offer her support. Sometimes this is all that's needed, an understanding. I wish you well. |
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| UK-Jack | Dec 7 2010, 05:39 PM Post #21 |
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Christine, I love my wife a lot but after our debate on Sunday it got me thinking I hope to God, she doesn't give me and ultermatum of her or the future existence of my children's children because she will lose hands down, it's just not for my children it's for the children of people from all walks of life, who want to live in the UK alongside each other in harmony and the only group of people who think they are above us, this Great nation and our law are radical muslims. NS |
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| the captain | Dec 7 2010, 06:16 PM Post #22 |
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maybe its time to start planning for a high profile march to the doors of no 10 with a petition demanding to know the stance of this goverment in relation to sharie law and to the constant accomadating and pandering to islam i am sure a large march would bring world wide coverage and maybe bring out some politcians with some backbone |
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| waspish | Dec 7 2010, 06:58 PM Post #23 |
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Our lineage is british, we stand for equality and fair play for all. We have fought wars to ensure our children have the freedoms we took for granted. This country doesnt belong to us, it belongs to our children and grandcjildren we are its safe keepers. Its time to make a stand and ensure we keep it fit to hand over. If you dont agree with this you are already blinded by the polititions and the imams to see what is happening here. WE HAVE BEEN SOLD our heritage has BEEN SOLD our nationj has BEEN SOLD and the cost. OIL for our grandchildrens worship to an evil ideology WAKE UP FOLKS... sister sarah was right.... |
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| Deleted User | Dec 7 2010, 07:22 PM Post #24 |
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I understand, honestly, I do so let's hope the circumstances you describe never arise.
It's rarely I voice an opinion on the numerous requests and demands for a march/demo/protest I've seen on this forum but your suggestion has so many marits it gets my full backing. I live in hope for the day we march onward to No 10 for an explanation from the government. |
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| Oroya | Dec 7 2010, 08:37 PM Post #25 |
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Muslims and their apologists have any number of these comforting responses to the awkward questions of non-believers. What they usually forget to mention is that the Koran, for Muslims, is the literal and immutable word of God, as revealed to the Prophet Mohammed by the angel Gabriel. So it doesn't matter what the context was, or how many centuries ago it was revealed, if the Almighty told Mohammed that Muslims must not take Jews and Christians as their friends, then that's it. It's a command from Allah, and it applies for all time and in all circumstances. Christians can take a flexible attitude towards the Bible and still remain Christians. They don't have to follow its injunctions to the letter, just as long as they are faithful to its spirit. Muslims have no such room for manoeuvre in regard to the Koran. That is what gives Islam its rigid, intolerant quality and that is what tends to make Muslims who take their religion seriously such rigid and intolerant people |
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