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| EU stealthily intoduces new law to criminalise any analytical, factual, or hortatory discussion of Islam and Sharia by non-Muslims | |
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| Billposter | Dec 7 2010, 01:18 AM Post #1 |
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Euro-Freedom Watch J. E. Dyer - 12.03.2010 - 7:28 PM http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/euro-freedom-watch/?clusterId=&id=17789992&topic=&s=253 With little fanfare, the EU adopted new legislation this week that makes “certain forms and expressions of racism and xenophobia” criminal offenses — and allows individual EU nations to prosecute the citizens of other nations for those offenses. And no, it’s not European anti-Americanism that’s being targeted by the xenophobia provisions. Advocates of free speech in Europe are quite clear that what the new law will criminalize is analytical, factual, or hortatory discussion of Islam and Sharia by non-Muslims. Their conclusion is bolstered by recent events. Geert Wilders of the Netherlands is only the most famous of several Europeans who have faced criminal charges for speaking critically of Islam. Another is Austrian journalist and activist Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, whose trial for “hate speech” opened in Vienna on November 23. Take a moment to read publicized transcripts of the proceedings; it is worth understanding that Sabaditsch-Wolff is being tried, literally, for quoting both the Koran and an authoritative work on Sunni law, and expressing criticism of the social institutions condoned in those religious texts. She is not a cartoonist lampooning Muhammad, something most Westerners would recognize as less than respectful even if they didn’t all agree that it was “offensive.” Sabaditsch-Wolff quotes the texts of Islam seriously and accurately; she objects to their implications, but she doesn’t poke fun at them. However, as Ned May observes at Andrew Breitbart’s Big Peace: It has been well-established in a number of jurisdictions — including several in the West — that a non-Muslim who quotes the Koran accurately can still be convicted of “hate speech”. This aligns with the definition of Islamic slander (also to be found in [Sunni law document] Reliance) which considers anything that insults Islam, whether true or false, to be defamation. The author at the pseudonymous Daphne Anson blog (top link) wonders what will happen if Turkey is finally admitted to the EU, given the newly approved framework allowing cross-border prosecutions in Europe. But I am inclined to wonder how the other nations will react to being in the same union with Austria and the Netherlands, which have already shown a willingness to prosecute free speech as a hate crime. The charges against Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff are centered on questions like these, brought up one after another on the first day of her trial: 10:53: The judge inquires if we are talking about Islamic extremism, or of Islam as such? Elisabeth explains that we are talking Islam as such, as defined by its scripture, and quotes Erdogan that there is no moderate Islam anyway. The intellectual basis for her certainty (or the judge’s, for that matter) is not the issue here, nor should it be. The issue is that she is being prosecuted for forensic, critical investigation of Islam: for advancing opinions we hear argued nightly on American TV talk shows. The most basic of intellectual freedoms — attributing facts to sources and expressing opinions about them — is in the process of being criminalized in parts of the EU. Free-speech advocates fear that the new Framework Decision on Racism and Xenophobia will spread this trend toward criminalization across borders throughout Europe. They are justified in their concern. Edited by Billposter, Dec 7 2010, 01:19 AM.
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| wodin | Dec 7 2010, 02:00 AM Post #2 |
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They could never implement this, can you imagine Paxman, Question time, the daily politics, ch4 news, etc. ect. never being able to debate these subjects ever again???? Plus you have the European court of human rights mob! Its just not tenable! Wodin. Edited by wodin, Dec 7 2010, 02:01 AM.
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| lancastrian | Dec 7 2010, 10:54 AM Post #3 |
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wodin, I not so sure. IMO the judiciary/CPS will apply it full on given the chance and I am not at all sure that Paxman etc will put up (or be allowed to) enough of a stand to make our government say this won't be implemented here |
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| Deleted User | Dec 7 2010, 11:01 AM Post #4 |
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Free speech - use it or lose it! We've got to keep up a relentless infomation war against Islam so that there's so much stuff being produced, and already out there, that the thought police just can't keep up with it. It's a tactic known as saturation of defences. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 7 2010, 12:22 PM Post #5 |
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FFS! I despise 'the EU' with a passion, WTF next? Hang white people? Outlaw non-muslims from holding public office? Ban christianity? Amputate left-handers? Criminalise breathing? Dear me, are there no limits to the treacherous lunacy of the unelected faceless ones??? |
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