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BBC on EDL Surprisingly neutral
Topic Started: Dec 6 2010, 09:50 PM (1,127 Views)
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Apologies if already posted.
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Good read, btw what's an Islamaphobic hooligan look like ?

Answers on a postcard ta !!!!
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First decent BBC article I've ever read on us.
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ha ha
well done Tommy
why do we need to know about sharia law ffs???

WE HAVE BRITISH LAW
"...NOR SHALL MY SWORD SLEEP IN MY HAND."

E.D.L......THE THIN RED LINE
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That was an interesting read tbh.
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Good article, but I had to laugh at...

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He is 27 and, despite his swagger, looks younger.
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breather555
Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
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fcuk off breather you prick.
why talk when you have nothing to say?you make a noise of a toilet flushing away days of sh1te.

keep the faith

paxi :)
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Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
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what are you implying there?
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Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
Tommy hitler Robinson
What a charming comparison. You are right... he does seem to be a brilliant Orator; a motivating force; a reolutionary theologian; a charismatic personality who quotes the views of those who support him rather than some party line and last, but by no means least...determined.

I can only assume that it was these qualities to which you refer in your comparison to such a notorious member of history.
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So was that guy saying he wanted Sharia Law in Britain?
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Unlike the ultra lefty BBC to make reasonable reporting regarding the EDL. They must surely be scared of something, Jews? Hold on a minute, doesn't Murdock run the biggest media empire in the world?
Blistering Barnacles!
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"leader" Tommy Robinson - a pseudonym he took as a homage to a famous football hooligan.

Steven Lennon, is about two hours late for a meeting in a London pub

Mr Lennon, whose movements are restricted by a number of bail conditions.

crowds which are sometimes in the thousands.

Amsterdam's mayor moved the demo to a scrap of land miles out of the city. Turnout is low, very low.

"You're lucky to have Geert Wilders, in Sweden you have politicians standing up for you; in England we have no-one standing up for our freedoms," he says. (What does sweden have to do with this?)

Professor Matthew Goodwin, an expert on far right groups,




It's subtle but it isn't really that unbiased. :/
I may criticize the EDL a bit, but I support the cause 100%.
Armchair division. I may not go to demos, but I'm there in spirit.
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Of course it's neutral.

They are on a charm offensive. Not for our sakes but theirs. They are switching tactics. Don't be fooled. ;)
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breather555
Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
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The way you frivolously throw around these insults shows the lack of respect you and similar people to yourself to the millions who died at the hands of Hitler and the Nazis. You people should be ashamed.
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Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
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Wanker.
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Dec 6 2010, 10:22 PM
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Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
Tommy hitler Robinson
what are you implying there?
you catch on quickly dont you
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breather555
Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
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What the fcuk do you mean by this? Explain your post!
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Dec 6 2010, 10:56 PM
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Dec 6 2010, 10:22 PM
breather555
Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
Tommy hitler Robinson
what are you implying there?
you catch on quickly dont you
haha no not really, i thought c*nts like you would be banned on here to be honest
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People it's the internet. The first rule is don't feed the trolls.
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love to feed my foot up his arse
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Dec 6 2010, 10:50 PM
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Tommy hitler Robinson
The way you frivolously throw around these insults shows the lack of respect you and similar people to yourself to the millions who died at the hands of Hitler and the Nazis. You people should be ashamed.
Spot on knuckles! :D
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Wanker's on validation now. Good to seem him gone.
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breather555
Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
im a little wimp of a lefty troll
cheers for that m8...

ill boot you then. :)
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When Tommy says in Sharia Law women get put in holes in the ground and stoned to death, the Mohammad dude says that only happened in the 7th century.. I think he'll find its still happening in the Middle East and countries like Somalia on a daily basis.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society"
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Dec 6 2010, 10:56 PM
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Dec 6 2010, 10:16 PM
Tommy hitler Robinson
What the fcuk do you mean by this? Explain your post!
He means Hitler spent time meeting and socialising with Rabbis and supporting Jewish causes.
Clee has edited the original post to explain what the poster meant to say.
Breather is a nob and a waste of oxygen.
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brianstewey
Dec 6 2010, 10:30 PM
So was that guy saying he wanted Sharia Law in Britain?
Thats what's fcuked up as the Muslim guy looked and sounded 100% western yet he supports Sharia Law.
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Even though they aren't perfect the bbc are definitely more neutral than the papers who are linked for the govt and looking for sensationalist stories to shift copies and make £££s.
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Dec 7 2010, 12:07 AM
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So was that guy saying he wanted Sharia Law in Britain?
Thats what's fcuked up as the Muslim guy looked and sounded 100% western yet he supports Sharia Law.
And he acted like if you didn't support him you were ignorant and at fault. Amazing attitude.
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Dec 7 2010, 12:24 AM
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Dec 7 2010, 12:07 AM
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Dec 6 2010, 10:30 PM
So was that guy saying he wanted Sharia Law in Britain?
Thats what's fcuked up as the Muslim guy looked and sounded 100% western yet he supports Sharia Law.
And he acted like if you didn't support him you were ignorant and at fault. Amazing attitude.
Its was his un-islamic cardie and white winkle picker shoes that threw me alongside side his 1980's Levi Quiff,yet i bet his lass dresses like a black letterbox.
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Dec 7 2010, 12:28 AM
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And he acted like if you didn't support him you were ignorant and at fault. Amazing attitude.
Its was his un-islamic cardie and white winkle picker shoes that threw me alongside side his 1980's Levi Quiff,yet i bet his lass dresses like a black letterbox.
hahah! To be honest he doesn't look like the kinda guy that would survive long under his sharia. From the advocates for this particular set of progressive laws a beard at least is mandatory.
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For those that missed this part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql3qOxl2LkI
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGeS5B71h-0
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I notice they used the same title (Who's afraid of the...) as they did for the BNP last year: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8275282.stm

It sneakily implies that the EDL is like the big bad wolf and will eventually come a cropper. But it also implies that extremist Muslims are like the three little pigs - and I don't think they'll like that much. :D
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they can't tar us with the same brush as the bnp, theres a lot of lies from uaf & media, that we are racist. People then see we have black members etc & that confuses them.
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I know my leftie class war bullsh1t isn't popular here, but...

The way Mohammad Ayoud was looking at Tommy is a perfect example of how the liberal left treats working class people. In the video Ayoud was sneering at Tommy as if what he was saying wasn't worth listening to.

I'm so annoyed about this. No wonder white working class people vote don't vote Labour any more but I don't want the BNP either.

If only there were more of us than them it would be easier.
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Dec 7 2010, 12:39 PM
I know my leftie class war bullsh1t isn't popular here, but...

The way Mohammad Ayoud was looking at Tommy is a perfect example of how the liberal left treats working class people. In the video Ayoud was sneering at Tommy as if what he was saying wasn't worth listening to.

I'm so annoyed about this. No wonder white working class people vote don't vote Labour any more but I don't want the BNP either.

If only there were more of us than them it would be easier.
I completely agree with you. The middle class in Britain fears and despises the working class. That must be magnified even further by middle class muslims, whose religion teaches them hostility to the dirty kafir.

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Dec 7 2010, 12:39 PM
I know my leftie class war bullsh1t isn't popular here, but...

The way Mohammad Ayoud was looking at Tommy is a perfect example of how the liberal left treats working class people. In the video Ayoud was sneering at Tommy as if what he was saying wasn't worth listening to.

I'm so annoyed about this. No wonder white working class people vote don't vote Labour any more but I don't want the BNP either.

If only there were more of us than them it would be easier.
I'm with you uniondefender. I was a branch sec for 9 years.
Outlaw sharia law
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getting a bit better from the BBC they still love to attatch the words right wing to su though.
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Dec 7 2010, 01:06 PM
The middle class in Britain fears and despises the working class.
Stop with this anti-middle class sh1t, I have nothing against working class people.
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Dec 7 2010, 01:06 PM
The middle class in Britain fears and despises the working class.

please can we stop the unfounded classwar allegations on this forum?

[assumes posh affected 'paul merton' accent]
its terrible unhelpful dontcha know
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Dec 7 2010, 05:30 PM
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The middle class in Britain fears and despises the working class.

please can we stop the unfounded classwar allegations on this forum?

Even if it's the truth? :unsure:
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Dec 7 2010, 05:32 PM
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The middle class in Britain fears and despises the working class.

please can we stop the unfounded classwar allegations on this forum?

Even if it's the truth? :unsure:
'unfounded allegations' as in - no i dont believe its the truth

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Dec 7 2010, 12:39 PM
I know my leftie class war bullsh1t isn't popular here, but...

The way Mohammad Ayoud was looking at Tommy is a perfect example of how the liberal left treats working class people. In the video Ayoud was sneering at Tommy as if what he was saying wasn't worth listening to.

I'm so annoyed about this. No wonder white working class people vote don't vote Labour any more but I don't want the BNP either.

If only there were more of us than them it would be easier.
Fully agree!!
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The BBC article is RELATIVELY neutral. But that's because the BBC has mastered the objective and neutral STYLE of writing; which hoodwinks people into believing it is truly is objective or neutral. But it's just a stylistic pose, mastered at Oxbridge universities and by analytic philosophers.

Of course the BBC would never say that the EDL 'is a extreme far right bunch of knuckle-dragging racists'. That's not the BBC's style. Nevertheless, they may well think that way, despite the neutral prose style.
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Total domination of the world. Hitlers agenda.
Total domination of the world. Islams agenda.
Anihilation of the Jews. Hitlers agenda.
Anihilation of the Jwes. Islams agenda.
Kill Homosexuals. Hitlers agenda.
Kill Homosexuals Islams agenda.
Kill those who dont conform. Hitlers agenda.
Kill those who dont conform Islams agenda.
Marry little children, Islams way of subduing females.
Islams history, women are happy when at the feet of their husband....
Beat and opress women. Islams history, women are worth half that of a man.
islams law. If a woman is raped, she needs the testimony of four men to support her claim. Or she is guilty of the crime of inciting rape.
Kill and enslave everyone who you dominate. Islams history, look at Darfur. Look at Pakistan. Look at Afghanistan, and their laws of rape, honour, and education of females....

and I was brought up to think Hitler was the face of evil.....
Use Taqia lie, decieve and undermine those who you want to decieve. Islamic history. Islamic dictat. Islamic LAW.

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You mention Hitler. The BBC, the Church, etc. etc. never view the extreme left as being as evil as the far right. Yet Stalin, for example, killed more than Hitler.

The Bishop of Bradford agreed that Weyman Bennet was wrong but said that 'his heart is in the right place'. The phrase is often used by liberals to characterise Trots and Commies. They wouldn't dream of using the same phrase to characterise Nazis or the BNP.

The far left is the mirror-image of the far right - they even agree with each other on the Jews... sorry, the Zionists!!! That's why they hate each other. They're both fighting for the same bone.
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Dec 7 2010, 07:35 PM
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Even if it's the truth? :unsure:
'unfounded allegations' as in - no i dont believe its the truth

rita
Not really unfounded I don't think, when you consider who runs the country now (and who they run it for) and who ran it 50 years ago.
Just my opinion of course but there has been a class war going on in this country for the last 50 years. The working class have been oblivious to it but they have slowly been marginalised and split, with the creation on an underclass (= abandoned working class), and social climbers.
The old ruling class were supplanted by the upper middle class, who have now become the ruling or political class.
We had a social revolution, then we were sold a classless society, all in the name of equality but in actuality as a result, we are more class-bound than ever
It's happened and the proof is there to be seen IMO
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it's only decent in comparison to the outright biasedy they've shown in the past.

BBC Asian Network

I'm still skeptical.

Hey, can we get a BBC Caucasian network?

Oh wait, no, that's fascist.
Actually, now that I think about it, here they go with the whole "Asian" thing again.

What exactly does the EDL have to do the entirety of Asia, as a whole?
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All the class war crap is not going to get more people joining the edl end of. you can't just say rubbish like "the middle class despise the working class".I've got some middle class friends and we get along fine because we couldn't give a sh1t about who's family has the bigest house,most Money best car etc etc.In the time we spend bickering over class we could be further exposing the REAL enamy (islamism) and spreading the word of the edl.
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Dec 7 2010, 09:06 PM
All the class war crap is not going to get more people joining the edl end of. you can't just say rubbish like "the middle class despise the working class".I've got some middle class friends and we get along fine because we couldn't give a sh1t about who's family has the bigest house,most Money best car etc etc.In the time we spend bickering over class we could be further exposing the REAL enamy (islamism) and spreading the word of the edl.
Who has allowed that REAL enemy to develop how it has? White, middle-class liberals aka the ruling/political classes.
Why has it happened? Because power in this country, due to the link between upper and working class was supplanted by white, middle class liberals.
The wealth of the upper class was lost, supplanted by white, middle class liberals.
The power of the working class, the Labour Party and the trades unions were infiltrated and taken over by white, middle class liberals.
Who makes the decisions now? Why is it the only way ordinary people can have a voice now is to take to the streets and be labelled an extremist or racist by a complicit media (run by white middle class liberals) Who allowed militant Islam to flourish?
I would disagree that this isn't a class issue, this is in fact part of a class war, now in the open after being waged surreptitiously for nearly 50 years
All a personal opinion btw (and for 'liberal' see cultural Marxist)
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